What a fucking retard.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46262387/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.Ty-0OfkU-Xs
QuoteIndiana election chief found guilty of voter fraud
Among other things, he was accused of lying about his address on voter registration forms
By CHARLES WILSON
updated 2/4/2012 6:13:33 PM ET
INDIANAPOLIS — While Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels held off Saturday on appointing a permanent replacement for the state elections chief convicted early that morning of voter fraud, Democrats said they planned to move quickly to wrest control of the politically powerful office from the GOP.
A jury from Hamilton County, just north of Indianapolis, deliberated for 13 hours before convicting Republican Secretary of State Charlie White on six felony charges. Among other things, White was accused of lying about his address on voter registration forms.
Indiana law does not allow felons to hold statewide office, and Daniels quickly appointed White's chief deputy, Jerry Bonnet, as interim secretary of state. But the governor said he was holding off on naming a permanent replacement because a judge could reduce the charge to a misdemeanor, allowing White to regain the office.
Democrats didn't want to wait, however. Chairman Dan Parker told The Associated Press the party will seek to have its 2010 candidate, Vop Osili, who lost to White by about 300,000 votes, certified as secretary of state during the coming week. A civil judge in Marion County ordered the state to declare Osili the winner in December, saying White wasn't an eligible candidate because he had lied about where he lived on a voter registration form.
Parker said White's conviction removed the sole objection to Marion Circuit Judge Louis Rosenberg's ruling ordering the Indiana Recount Commission to certify Osili, the second-place finisher, as the winner. Parker said the conviction proved White had committed voter fraud as Democrats contended. Rosenberg had stayed his order pending appeal.
"Now is the time for the stay to be lifted and for the recount commission to certify Vop Osili as the winner and have him sworn in this week, and all of this can be put behind us," Parker told The AP.
But a spokesman for the state Republican party said the civil lawsuit filed by Democrats and the criminal charges handed down by a grand jury were separate. Pete Seat said Democrats were unfairly trying to change the outcome of the election.
"The Democrats, this is what they do," he said. "They lose elections and then they try to litigate victory."
Under ordinary circumstances, Daniels would appoint another Republican to the office once he received a certified copy of White's sentencing order.
The case is likely to end up in the state Supreme Court, although the justices have not said yet whether they will take up the appeal of Rosenberg's order.
White also is expected to appeal his criminal conviction.
Jurors in White's criminal trial deliberated overnight before reaching a verdict about 2 a.m. Saturday.
"I'm disappointed for my family and the people who supported me," White said outside the courtroom after the verdict was announced.
Prosecutors said White used his ex-wife's address instead of a condo he had with his fiancee because he didn't want to give up his $1,000-per-month Fishers Town Council salary after moving out of that district.
White claimed the charges ignored a complicated personal life in which he was trying to raise his 10-year-old son, plan his second marriage and campaign for the statewide office he won that November. He said he stayed at his ex-wife's house when he wasn't on the road campaigning and did not live in the condo until after he remarried.
The Indiana Recount Commission unanimously upheld White's candidacy in June after Democrats challenged its legitimacy, but Democrats appealed the decision to Rosenberg, who ordered it reversed. A Hamilton County grand jury had indicted White in March following an investigation by two special prosecutors, one Republican and one Democrat.
Amid all the turmoil, work at the secretary of state's office continued.
Office spokesman A.J. Feeney-Ruiz said Bonnet would report to work as secretary of state Monday and "it'll be business as usual."
QuoteRepublican
How did I know? I'm like fucking Carnac.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
QuoteRepublican
How did I know? I'm like fucking Carnac.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Quote from: dps on February 06, 2012, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
QuoteRepublican
How did I know? I'm like fucking Carnac.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Diebold was right 2004-2008.
Quote from: dps on February 06, 2012, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
QuoteRepublican
How did I know? I'm like fucking Carnac.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
It does seem these happen quite a bit on your side. Dirty tricks and all.
First and foremost, the guy was a crook. Mentioning whether he was a Republican or a Democrat just serves to divide us all along the partisan lines. Let's move the discussion away from the fact that he was a Republican.
Why?
Fuck you, DG.
Neil was right. DG really does toe the party line, even down to bipartisanship and conciliation. WAKE UP!
I'm just curious how Dems need to take blame for this:
Dems contend that "winner" of election, if actual winner, wasn't qualified to run in the first place. "Winner" gets convicted of fraud including lying about his address, proving Dems right. Dems say their guy should have been installed instead of giving the governor a chance to ignore the election completely and just install his own guy.
Truly, insidious behavior at work.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 07, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
I'm just curious how Dems need to take blame for this:
Dems contend that "winner" of election, if actual winner, wasn't qualified to run in the first place. "Winner" gets convicted of fraud including lying about his address, proving Dems right. Dems say their guy should have been installed instead of giving the governor a chance to ignore the election completely and just install his own guy.
Truly, insidious behavior at work.
Because the court convicted the man of felonies, he's now ineligible for his office. However, it doesn't sound like they actually overturned the results of the last election.
Hooooooooooooosiers.
Not sure if this was Guller's point, but to immediately jump to politics when reading this story is to completely miss the point. Dude's a criminal. Politics is no replacement for justice.
Quote from: DGuller on February 06, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
First and foremost, the guy was a crook. Mentioning whether he was a Republican or a Democrat just serves to divide us all along the partisan lines. Let's move the discussion away from the fact that he was a Republican.
But then no one gets to feel artificially superior, and where's the fun in that?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 07, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 07, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
I'm just curious how Dems need to take blame for this:
Dems contend that "winner" of election, if actual winner, wasn't qualified to run in the first place. "Winner" gets convicted of fraud including lying about his address, proving Dems right. Dems say their guy should have been installed instead of giving the governor a chance to ignore the election completely and just install his own guy.
Truly, insidious behavior at work.
Because the court convicted the man of felonies, he's now ineligible for his office. However, it doesn't sound like they actually overturned the results of the last election.
They are trying to get the court to overturn the election because the guy who 'won' never should have been on the ballot. The only reason he was on the ballot was because of the crimes he committed.
Quote from: fahdiz on February 07, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 06, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
First and foremost, the guy was a crook. Mentioning whether he was a Republican or a Democrat just serves to divide us all along the partisan lines. Let's move the discussion away from the fact that he was a Republican.
But then no one gets to feel artificially superior, and where's the fun in that?
Nowhere, that's where.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 07, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Because the court convicted the man of felonies, he's now ineligible for his office. However, it doesn't sound like they actually overturned the results of the last election.
They didn't have to. That felony conviction is proof of the claims made in the civil suit. You call it misappropriation, I call it precedent.
I call it issue preclusion. :smarty: