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Base models get a 200-horsepower, 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine with direct injection. A 270-hp, turbo 2.0-liter four-cylinder will be optional, as will Cadillac's familiar 318-hp, 3.6-liter V-6. All three engines can run on regular gas, though Cadillac recommends premium with the turbo. All-wheel drive is optional across the board.
Competes with: BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Acura TSX
Looks like: A sleeker CTS, except maybe in back
Drivetrain: 200-horsepower, 2.5-liter four-cylinder; 270-hp, turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder; 318-hp, 3.6-liter V-6; six-speed automatic or manual transmission; rear- or all-wheel drive
Hits dealerships: Summer 2012QuoteDETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Co proved with the Chevrolet Cruze it can build a top-selling compact car, cracking a market long dominated by Japanese brands.
Now the No.1 U.S. automaker is targeting the entrenched German luxury brands with a more nimble compact Cadillac.
The 2013 ATS is central to GM chief executive Dan Akerson's mission to refashion Cadillac into a global luxury brand by winning over younger buyers with a sportier image.
From the start, GM took aim at BMW's 3-Series, the dominant car in this segment along with the Mercedes-Benz C-Class. Luxury compacts make up two-thirds of the luxury car market in the United States, according to Autodata.
GM has failed in this segment before, however. In the early 1980s, GM launched the Cadillac Cimarron, which Time magazine in 2007 called one of the 50-worst cars ever built.
"We need to face one fact, the cars that have achieved consistent success in the segment have been European cars and then more specifically, they've been German," said Don Butler, head of Cadillac marketing at an event to showcase the 2013 ATS on Sunday, ahead of the Detroit auto show this week.
Cutting weight from the vehicle was key to making the ATS competitive. At less than 3,400 pounds, the ATS is the lightest Cadillac yet.
Engineers fashioned the car with an aluminum hood and natural-fiber door trim panels, among other materials, to cut weight and improve handling.
GM's North American president, Mark Reuss, said GM could apply some of these techniques to other cars in GM's lineup.
NO LONGER THE "GEEZERMOBILE"
Last year saw a reordering of the luxury car market in the United States, providing an opportunity for Cadillac to break into the market in 2012.
Toyota Motor Corp's Lexus brand, hurt by inventory constraints after the March 11 earthquake in Japan, lost its No.1 luxury brand ranking in the U.S. market to BMW.
Ludwig Willisch, head of BMW's North American operations, said he was not overly concerned about the ATS globally.
"I don't think it will ever play a sufficient role in the rest of the world, but in this market, yes," he told reporters Sunday.
Brand image remains perhaps the most crucial in the luxury car market, where it can take a long time and a lot of money to overhaul consumer perceptions, analysts said.
The average age for Cadillac drivers was around 59 years old in 2011, according to CNW Research. That's a decade older than BMW and five years older than Audi, but on par with Mercedes-Benz.
Still, the average age of Cadillac drivers has fallen from about 63 in 1995. The Escalade SUV's reception from hip-hop artists and the success of the CTS has helped upend Cadillac's image as a "geezermobile," said Art Spinella, president of market researcher CNW.
"It's going to take them a couple of years," Spinella said of the ATS. "You have to knock over these dominoes one at a time. It's not like they all fall over all at once."
The ATS, which tested at the demanding Nuerburgring racetrack inGermany, will be built on a new rear-wheel drive platform, but will also come in an all-wheel drive version.
GM will build a diesel version of the car, which will go on sale in the late summer. The company did not disclose pricing.
GM will make the car at its Lansing Grand River assembly plant in Michigan.
I'm looking to buy a Prius c.
Prediction: this new Cadillac it will pass the Dazzling Urbanite test.
After all, what overweight black woman working at the Social Security Administration wouldn't want to be waiting to exhale in this ride?
Quote from: Phillip V on January 10, 2012, 06:45:46 AM
I'm looking to buy a Prius c.
It'll help at the dealership if you take the cock out of your mouth first.
A 2.0 liter 270 hp four cylinder? Wow. That engine won't last very long. Or is that a typo and it should be a 3.0 liter engine with 270 hp?
Not sure about the design, would have to see it in real. But that won't happen as they probably don't sell it here.
Quote from: Zanza on January 10, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
A 2.0 liter 270 hp four cylinder? Wow. That engine won't last very long. Or is that a typo and it should be a 3.0 liter engine with 270 hp?
Nope, not a typo. Remember, as long as an engine is turbo-charged, life expectancy of the cylinder heads doesn't matter.
What the article doesn't mention is Caddy is also unveiling a new behemoth in 2013, the XTS.
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Quote from: Zanza on January 10, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
A 2.0 liter 270 hp four cylinder? Wow. That engine won't last very long. Or is that a typo and it should be a 3.0 liter engine with 270 hp?
Not sure about the design, would have to see it in real. But that won't happen as they probably don't sell it here.
I know nothing about engines, so can you explain why in a dumbed down way? Just too much power in too small a package?
Quote from: Zanza on January 10, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
A 2.0 liter 270 hp four cylinder? Wow. That engine won't last very long. Or is that a typo and it should be a 3.0 liter engine with 270 hp?
Not sure about the design, would have to see it in real. But that won't happen as they probably don't sell it here.
It seems standard to me. Everyone seems to get about 270 HP from the turbo 4 engine, except the Germans, who seem to aim for a 100 hp/l ratio with their turbo engines.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2012, 06:58:21 AM
What the article doesn't mention is Caddy is also unveiling a new behemoth in 2013, the XTS.
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Daddy want.
Looks like a brick with wheels.
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This car has a big ass. You can easily stuff a couple bodies in there.
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This one looks like it's crying over America's future in the auto industry.
Your cars suck. Good day sir.
I never got the new Caddy styling. It seems sharp and angular in all the wrong places and all the wrong ways.
As usual for GM they just look like more Holden/Daewoo-base designed cars.
It has a similar look to the Mercedes C230, but a bit fatter. Meh. Cadillac is for old people, like my dad who always dreamed of having one.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2012, 07:04:55 AMI know nothing about engines, so can you explain why in a dumbed down way? Just too much power in too small a package?
As far as I understand it from talking to engineers, getting that much power out of 2 liters means a lot of mechanical stress from high revs, very high turbo pressure etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the turbo charger needs to be replaced at some point.
Did you ever buy that Merc, viper? Or did you go for the Evo after all?
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 10, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
This one looks like it's crying over America's future in the auto industry.
Your cars suck. Good day sir.
Nonsense. It says "I'm an American, and this is my massive cock."
Quote from: Zanza on January 10, 2012, 11:18:16 AM
As far as I understand it from talking to engineers, getting that much power out of 2 liters means a lot of mechanical stress from high revs, very high turbo pressure etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the turbo charger needs to be replaced at some point.
Not if the turbine's well-designed, but that's what really makes or breaks a turbocharger- how well the turbine matches the output of the compressor. I've only heard of that kind of horsepower coming out of a stage-III or even a stage-IV turbo, so that probably means the compressor's going to be doing more of the heavy lifting.
I have no idea what a stage III or IV turbo charger is. Google suggests it's only for after-market turbo chargers.
As far as mechanical stress goes, it's what I heard from developers and aftersales people in the automotive industry here. In the end, they actually design and build cars, so they should know.
Quote from: Zanza on January 11, 2012, 12:07:49 AM
I have no idea what a stage III or IV turbo charger is. Google suggests it's only for after-market turbo chargers.
As far as mechanical stress goes, it's what I heard from developers and aftersales people in the automotive industry here. In the end, they actually design and build cars, so they should know.
My guess is that Germans are way more conservative with boost than other automakers. You can easily add power to turbo engines just by adding boost, but the long-term costs of it are uncertain and probably high.
My Jetta has a 2 liter turbo engine rated at 200 hp, and you can add about 40 more just by flashing the ECU, which allows more boost. If you upgrade some parts, you can add even more boost. IMO, that's kinda dumb, though, the stock engine is enough to earn me a ticket for either recklessly excessive speed, or unsafe acceleration, without really trying. Besides, there is only so much power front wheel drive cars can take before it starts getting pointless.
Quote from: DGuller on January 11, 2012, 01:26:57 AM
My Jetta has a 2 liter turbo engine rated at 200 hp, and you can add about 40 more just by flashing the ECU, which allows more boost. If you upgrade some parts, you can add even more boost. IMO, that's kinda dumb, though, the stock engine is enough to earn me a ticket for either recklessly excessive speed, or unsafe acceleration, without really trying. Besides, there is only so much power front wheel drive cars can take before it starts getting pointless.
You can still add a lot more horspower by changing out the air intake system, the exhaust, installing a 3' spoiler and adding a Puerto Rican flag to your rear view mirror.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2012, 06:09:52 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 11, 2012, 01:26:57 AM
My Jetta has a 2 liter turbo engine rated at 200 hp, and you can add about 40 more just by flashing the ECU, which allows more boost. If you upgrade some parts, you can add even more boost. IMO, that's kinda dumb, though, the stock engine is enough to earn me a ticket for either recklessly excessive speed, or unsafe acceleration, without really trying. Besides, there is only so much power front wheel drive cars can take before it starts getting pointless.
You can still add a lot more horspower by changing out the air intake system, the exhaust, installing a 3' spoiler and adding a Puerto Rican flag to your rear view mirror.
:lol:
Quote from: Zanza on January 11, 2012, 12:07:49 AM
I have no idea what a stage III or IV turbo charger is. Google suggests it's only for after-market turbo chargers.
As far as mechanical stress goes, it's what I heard from developers and aftersales people in the automotive industry here. In the end, they actually design and build cars, so they should know.
Stages are just the way the companies differentiate their turbos- my point was that I've only seen 70-100HP boosts on really high-end turbos. III and IV are high-end and ultra-high-end (don't think I've ever seen a IV on a street-legal car). Again, though, a common factor is that the higher you go, the broader the gaps in the rotors (slower turn for less resistance), so the higher you go, the more the compressor's doing the actual work.
EDIT: Doing a little more homework on this, and the trick seems to be reboring the engine for an ultra-low compression ratio.
Also, :lol: at Seedy.
When I made my original comment, I had OEM engines in mind as that's all I know. The stage concept does not seem to exist there and OEMs obviously only build street-legal cars.
I am sure that for aftermarket stuff like you describe here, the lifetime of the components will be even less.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2012, 06:58:21 AM
What the article doesn't mention is Caddy is also unveiling a new behemoth in 2013, the XTS.
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The thing looks like it's grimacing because it's trying too hard to look like a Bentley.
well, it's certainly no babylon 5