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Title: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2011, 08:52:47 PM
Senate shits on the payroll tax extension vote.  Enjoy those extra taxes, kids!

Except those of you making more than $1m a year, of course.  That means you, Lemonjello.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Neil on December 01, 2011, 09:13:14 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Monoriu on December 01, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
I spent the last few minutes imagining what life would be like with a US$1 million per annum income.

Then I came back to reality :weep:
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Warspite on December 02, 2011, 05:43:56 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 01, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
I spent the last few minutes imagining what life would be like with a US$1 million per annum income.

Then I came back to reality :weep:

Why, are you on 2 million? Show off.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 02, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
Hooray!
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 07:00:35 AM
More Taxes in America is always a good thing even when the super rich don't pay any.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: alfred russel on December 02, 2011, 08:11:00 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 01, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
I spent the last few minutes imagining what life would be like with a US$1 million per annum income.

Then I came back to reality :weep:

Let me guess: the same frugal existance as you have now, only with a much larger bank account.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

Private Enterprise don't create jobs when there is so much incertainity. You guys need the Federal government to threaten private enterprise to spend their accumulated wealth or have it ceased.

Apple is sitting on 70$+ billions. Make them spend it or take it away.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2011, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

Won't happen, and even if it did, it wouldn't show up until after the elections.  After Warren Buffet's comments, the already low rates for capital gains are a political football, so I'll bet dollars to donuts they won't touch it in an election year.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 02, 2011, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

:lol:  The temporary reduction in payroll taxes had nothing to do with motivating job seekers, it was about boosting demand.

What kind of idiot says to himself, I would love to go get a job if only those pesky payroll taxes were 2% lower?
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 02, 2011, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

Private Enterprise don't create jobs when there is so much incertainity. You guys need the Federal government to threaten private enterprise to spend their accumulated wealth or have it ceased.

Apple is sitting on 70$+ billions. Make them spend it or take it away.

Or we could pass a law saying we won't pass any laws for the next two years. That would alleviate some uncertainty.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 02:35:25 PM
So it's uncertainty?

I hesitated a long time between the two.

You couldn't pass that law.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: viper37 on December 02, 2011, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

Private Enterprise don't create jobs when there is so much incertainity. You guys need the Federal government to threaten private enterprise to spend their accumulated wealth or have it ceased.

Apple is sitting on 70$+ billions. Make them spend it or take it away.
he's sarcastic...
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: viper37 on December 02, 2011, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 02, 2011, 10:09:57 AM
:lol:  The temporary reduction in payroll taxes had nothing to do with motivating job seekers, it was about boosting demand.

What kind of idiot says to himself, I would love to go get a job if only those pesky payroll taxes were 2% lower?
More, but not exclusively about boosting demand.
Lower payroll taxes means more people are incline to declared their wages instead of working for cash only.
Also a way to equilibrate the fiscality between lower working class and higher class living of capital gains & dividends wich are subjected to lower taxes.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/?fb_ref=FBS&fb_source=home_oneline
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Zoupa on December 02, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: viper37 on December 02, 2011, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Good decision, IMO.  That money is better spent on capital gains tax cuts.  We need to encourage job-creators, not job-takers.  Having so many job-takers is why we have such a high unemployment rate.

Private Enterprise don't create jobs when there is so much incertainity. You guys need the Federal government to threaten private enterprise to spend their accumulated wealth or have it ceased.

Apple is sitting on 70$+ billions. Make them spend it or take it away.
he's sarcastic...

I thought it was obvious.  :huh:

I was thinking maybe it was euro humor that doesn't translate well, but Yi got it.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/?fb_ref=FBS&fb_source=home_oneline

Americans like you would save $5,738 a year on average under President Obama's plan.

Continues tax cut of 2% and adds 1.2%

:)

If President Obama's Plan Doesn't Pass, You'll Lose $3,702.

Allows tax cut of 2% to expire

:(
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2011, 08:48:15 PM
I like the bit about Romney at the end. Nice use of the 1% rhetoric.
Title: Re: Yay! Payroll tax vote fails!
Post by: Razgovory on December 02, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Americans like you would save $0 a year on average under President Obama's plan.
Continues tax cut of 2% and adds 1.2%

If President Obama's Plan Doesn't Pass, You'll Lose $0.

Wahoo!