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Poll
Question: Of the current field of Republican potential nominees, who's your guy?
Option 1: Romney votes: 5
Option 2: Gingrich votes: 1
Option 3: Cain votes: 3
Option 4: Perry votes: 0
Option 5: Huntsman votes: 2
Option 6: Paul votes: 3
Option 7: Jaron votes: 2
Option 8: Bachmann votes: 2
Option 9: I'm not a Republican, but I like voting in polls votes: 23
Option 10: Other votes: 1
Title: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 07:21:56 PM
Yeah, like the poll says: who's your guy? Who would you like to win the nomination? Also, why? And do you think your guy has a chance to get the nomination? A chance to beat Obama?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Siege on November 30, 2011, 07:24:01 PM
Any of them can beat Obama.

Cain got my vote.

Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: garbon on November 30, 2011, 07:26:37 PM
I picked Romney. I'm not necessarily a huge fan but he's preferable to all that other rabble.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Caliga on November 30, 2011, 07:29:23 PM
I'm not a Republican so I'll pick your last option there.  But the only eventual Republican nominees I would consider voting for are Romney and Huntsman.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on November 30, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
I'm not a Republican, but I have to vote for the one with the best hair.   :hmm:

Using this website:  http://2012.republican-candidates.org/

While Perry is an excellent contender, he just can't stand up against the combined head and facial hair of Jimmy McMillan:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb1%2FJimmy_McMillan_Blue_2_2011_Shankbone.jpg%2F220px-Jimmy_McMillan_Blue_2_2011_Shankbone.jpg&hash=f79e4b29817543d3b3de41dafa5a65373d98b544)

Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Caliga on November 30, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
THE DEFICIT IS TOO DAMN HIGH. :mad:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 30, 2011, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 30, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb1%2FJimmy_McMillan_Blue_2_2011_Shankbone.jpg%2F220px-Jimmy_McMillan_Blue_2_2011_Shankbone.jpg&hash=f79e4b29817543d3b3de41dafa5a65373d98b544)

Why is this dude's neck black from the chops down?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on November 30, 2011, 07:31:59 PM
Very raciss, Yi.  :mad:

Quote from: Caliga on November 30, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
THE DEFICIT IS TOO DAMN HIGH. :mad:

RENT TOO.  :mad:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Hey Yi - who's your guy?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: fhdz on November 30, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
Man, I like voting in polls.

If I were a Republican, I'd wish (vainly) it was Huntsman. I'd settle for Romney.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Kleves on November 30, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
Huntsman/Romney are really the only ones that I would consider voting for.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: stjaba on November 30, 2011, 08:08:09 PM
My preference list is:

1. Huntsmen
2. Romney
3. Gingrich

As far as the general election, I would definitely vote for Huntsmen over Obama, but I'm not sure about Romney or Gingrich. 
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 30, 2011, 08:12:54 PM
I'm not a Republican, but voted for Jaron anyway.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
Oh man, I forgot to put Bachman in the poll  :blush:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:24:10 PM
Nixon.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
Oh man, I forgot to put Bachman in the poll  :blush:
Fixed.  And in proper order, because Jaron is a more credible candidate.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 30, 2011, 08:30:46 PM
The extra choice threw off the results.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 30, 2011, 08:30:46 PM
The extra choice threw off the results.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: dps on November 30, 2011, 09:09:34 PM
Not a Republican, but I'd vote for Gingrich.  I hope, probably in vain, to vote for him in the general election.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: KRonn on November 30, 2011, 09:33:19 PM
I picked Huntsman, and Romney would be a close second or even first.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2011, 12:07:25 AM
Romney
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Jacob on December 01, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
Oh man, I forgot to put Bachman in the poll  :blush:
Fixed.  And in proper order, because Jaron is a more credible candidate.

:lol:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: fhdz on December 01, 2011, 12:10:02 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 01, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
Oh man, I forgot to put Bachman in the poll  :blush:
Fixed.  And in proper order, because Jaron is a more credible candidate.

:lol:

And a less obvious troll, to boot.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: DGuller on December 01, 2011, 12:26:25 AM
I'll vote for Huntsman, if he is still not forgotten by the time New Jersey primaries roll around.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Hey Yi - who's your guy?

I'll most liikely vote for Obama.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Malthus on December 01, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
Quote from: Neil on November 30, 2011, 08:24:10 PM
Nixon.

I agree - a rotting corpse is probably the better choice than any of the actual candidates.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
I'm one of the few actual registered Republicans here, but none of the candidates excite me.  I'd prefer pretty much any of them to Obama, though.

Romney has the best chance of going the distance in the general election, so I guess I'll continue to say GOTT MIT MITT.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: garbon on December 01, 2011, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
I'm one of the few actual registered Republicans here

And what am I? Chopped Liver?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 01, 2011, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
I'm one of the few actual registered Republicans here

And what am I? Chopped Liver?

Ah, that's right.  You switched back from Democrat.  But it's not as if you wouldn't jump right back over the fence at the hint of a Hillary primary run.

Anyway, you are one of the few.  For now anyway ;)
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: fhdz on December 01, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
I'll most liikely vote for Obama.

For reals?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2011, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Hey Yi - who's your guy?

I'll most liikely vote for Obama.

Good man.

However, if Huntsman got elected, I will most likely not begin establishing residence in Canada.   Any of those other GOP yahoos, and I'm buying flannel.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
For reals?

Yes.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: DGuller on December 01, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
I'm one of the few actual registered Republicans here, but none of the candidates excite me. 
Same here.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Ideologue on December 01, 2011, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 01, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
I'm one of the few actual registered Republicans here, but none of the candidates excite me. 
Same here.

Well, me either, but I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Ideologue on December 01, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
Quote from: Jacob on November 30, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Hey Yi - who's your guy?

I'll most liikely vote for Obama.

Whoa.

Welcome friend!
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: fhdz on December 01, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
For reals?

Yes.

Would you mind explaining that thought process?
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
For reals?

Yes.

Would you mind explaining that thought process?

I think Yi is suffering from singleissueitis.  Anyway, he's mentioned his intent to vote for Obama many times here; not sure why you guys are so surprised.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Ideologue on December 01, 2011, 12:25:16 PM
I admit that it slipped by me. :mellow:
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: fhdz on December 01, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
I think Yi is suffering from singleissueitis.  Anyway, he's mentioned his intent to vote for Obama many times here; not sure why you guys are so surprised.

I haven't been around much until lately.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Would you mind explaining that thought process?

HE GOT THE OSAMA!

Seriously, I think the stimulus concept (if not the execution) was very defensible.  Same with Obamacare (if not the smoke and mirrors used to fund it).  He was judicious during Tahir Square.

Most importantly, I think the basic premise driving his negatives--that unemployment, growth, and income are functions of "presidential leadership"--is total bullshit.  There's no simple explanation for why unemployment has lasted as long as it has, and anyone who has a magic answer is peddling snake oil.

I'm not crazy about his populist rhetoric or policies or his split the difference approach to problem solving (i.e. Afghanistan), but all in all the guy deserves a 2nd term.  Especially with such a piss poor GOP field.

Also I think the US is trapped in a destructive political revenge cycle, and if I, as a right of center voter, can help overcome it by voting for the other guy then that's great.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: dps on December 01, 2011, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on December 01, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Would you mind explaining that thought process?
Most importantly, I think the basic premise driving his negatives--that unemployment, growth, and income are functions of "presidential leadership"--is total bullshit.  There's no simple explanation for why unemployment has lasted as long as it has, and anyone who has a magic answer is peddling snake oil.

The problem with this is that as a conservative, I agree that government can't really create employment (except to a very limited extent), growth, and income--that the best it can do is provide regulations that don't destroy employment, growth, and income.  But I don't see why I should vote for a candidate who seems to believe that government can create those things, and who, even worse, favors policies which I think will undermine them.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Rasputin on December 01, 2011, 02:05:38 PM
I'm a registered republican and a donor.

I hate this field and am frustrated at the fact that the front runner appears to be a rhino at best and the republican version of dukakis at worst.

Were the election today, I'm would vote Gingrich. All of the fundraisers i know are however mitt men and I have politely declined. I may not donate to anyone this cycle or may wait for the general to see where we are.
Title: Re: Languish Republicans, who's your guy?
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2011, 03:32:59 PM
Quote from: dps on December 01, 2011, 02:01:28 PM
The problem with this is that as a conservative, I agree that government can't really create employment (except to a very limited extent), growth, and income--that the best it can do is provide regulations that don't destroy employment, growth, and income.  But I don't see why I should vote for a candidate who seems to believe that government can create those things, and who, even worse, favors policies which I think will undermine them.

As for a candidate who believes government can create those things, unfortunately all the Republican candidates seem to have bought into the myth that unemployment will disappear the instant taxes are cut.  So it's not like there's an alternative there.   Well, maybe Ron Paul.  But then you have to accept the gold standard baggage.

And about the only Obama policy I would agree undermines job creation is the extension of unemployment benefits.  You really can't argue that the stimulus bill or his proposal for new hiring tax credits undermines job creation.