Apparently our genius President decided it would be cool to buzz NYC with Air Force One.
The idea that a low-flying jumbo jet, chased by F-15s would evoke a different image in New Yorkers didn't apparently occur to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn0tMMYEkQU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn0tMMYEkQU&feature=player_embedded)
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this is the best you can do hans?
:lol: Why would you automatically assume Obama ordered the flyover? I don't know for sure that he didn't, but the Prez hardly has control over every little thing that the government does.
Here's an actual article, and not just a op/ed from Hans :P
QuoteRecriminations fly after NYC jet flyover photo op
By ULA ILNYTZKY and SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writers – 21 mins ago
NEW YORK – It was supposed to be a photo op that captured images of an Air Force One plane with a majestic Statue of Liberty in the background. Instead, it turned into a public relations nightmare that led to recriminations from the president and mayor and prompted thousands other to ask, "What were they thinking?"
Just before the workday began on Monday, an airliner and supersonic fighter jet zoomed past the lower Manhattan skyline. Within minutes, startled financial workers streamed out of their offices, fearing a nightmarish replay of Sept. 11.
For a half-hour, the Boeing 747 and F-16 jet circled the Statue of Liberty and the Financial District near the World Trade Center site. Offices evacuated. Dispatchers were inundated with calls. Witnesses thought the planes were flying dangerously low.
But the flyover was nothing but a photo op, apparently one of a series of flights to get pictures of the plane in front of national landmarks.
It was carried out by the Defense Department with little warning, infuriating New York officials and putting the White House on the defense. Even Mayor Michael Bloomberg didn't know about it, and he later called it "insensitive" to fly so near the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
The director of the White House military office, Louis Caldera, took the blame a few hours later. One of the planes was a 747 that is called Air Force One when used by the president.
"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," Caldera said. "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused."
When told of the flight, President Barack Obama was furious, a White House official said on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.
Still, federal officials provided few details and wouldn't say why the public and area building security managers weren't notified. They also wouldn't address why someone thought it was a wise decision to send two jets into New York City, all for a few photos with the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop.
An administration official said the purpose of the photo op was to update file photos of the president's plane near the Lady Liberty.
This official said the White House military office told the Federal Aviation Administration that it was updating file photos of Air Force One near national landmarks. The official requested anonymity to give more details than the official White House announcement.
An Air Force combat photographer took pictures from one of the fighter jets, administration officials said.
The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money, according to another administration official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to speak publicly about the behind-the-scenes discussions about the flight.
The FAA notified the New York Police Department of the flyover, telling them photos of the Air Force One jet would be taken about 1,500 feet above the Statue of Liberty around 10 a.m. Monday. It had a classified footnote that said, "Information in this document shall not be released to the public or the media."
"Why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo op right around the site of the World Trade Center catastrophe defies the imagination," Bloomberg said. "Poor judgment would be a nice way to phrase it. ... Had I known about it, I would have called them right away and asked them not to."
NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said typically a flight like this would be publicized to avoid causing a panic, but they were under orders not to in this case. They regularly get requests for flyovers, but without secrecy restrictions.
The FAA also alerted an official in the mayor's office, but he didn't tell Bloomberg, who said he first learned about it when his "BlackBerry went off crazy with people complaining about it."
The Bloomberg official who was notified was Marc Mugnos, director of operations for the Office of Citywide Event Coordination and Management. Mugnos didn't immediately respond to questions about why he didn't tell the mayor; Bloomberg's spokesman Stu Loeser issued a statement saying: "He has been reprimanded and a disciplinary letter will be placed in his file."
Workers in lower Manhattan were stunned by what they saw.
John Leitner, a floor trader at the New York Mercantile Exchange Building, said about 1,000 people "went into a total panic" and ran out of the building around 10 a.m. after seeing the planes whiz by.
"We were informed after we cleared out of there," Leitner said. "I kind of think heads should roll a little bit on that."
Employees of the Wall Street Journal also left their desks to see what was going on.
Kathleen Seagriff, a staff assistant, said workers heard the roar of the engines and then saw the planes from their windows.
"They went down the Hudson, turned around and came back by the building," she said. "It was a scary scene, especially for those of us who were there on 9/11."
Air Force spokesman Vince King said the "photo mission" involved one of two VC-25 aircraft. The aircraft is part of the Presidential Airlift Wing, based at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.
The F-16 jet that flew alongside came from the D.C. National Guard's 113th fighter wing.
"This was a photo shoot. There was no need for surprise," Sen. Charles Schumer said. "There was no need to scare thousands of New Yorkers who still have the vivid memory of 9/11."
AFAICT the only ones who totally panicked over this were the members of the Republican blogosphere. I, for one, pity them. Not because they panicked, but because they are the kinds of people who panic over nothing.
Next time, maybe a little warning?
I knew that name sounded familiar.
QuoteFormer University of New Mexico President Louis Caldera, who taught corporate governance at the UNM School of Law last fall, is on the board of directors of a California bank seized by the federal government. [...]
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation was quickly named conservator, and the bank reopened Monday as IndyMac Federal Bank. The FDIC estimates the cost of the failure to the deposit insurance fund at between $4 billion and $8 billion.
Reached at his home Monday night, Caldera said, "I have no comment."
Caldera serves on Indy-Mac's corporate governance committee and on its management development and compensation committee, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing from earlier this year. In that same filing, the company disclosed Caldera took in $213,520 in total compensation for his service on the board in 2007 and $261,626 in 2006.
IndyMac is currently under investigation for fraud.
Most. Ethical. Administration. Evar!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't blow your load so soon. Gotta save it for the money shot.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 06:56:28 AM
Next time, maybe a little warning?
There was warning, of course. It is just that no knowledgeable people in NYC or the White House thought through the necessity of telling people what was going to happen.
Hans, you should do something outrageously stupid. After all, being part of the government, you can blame Obama for it later.
Quote from: Zanza2 on April 28, 2009, 07:10:10 AM
Hans, you should do something outrageously stupid. After all, being part of the government, you can blame Obama for it later.
Did you know Obama makes US PsyOps people post random shit no one reads on internet fora?
So he'll be doing this a lot in the future, in order to get those photo ops?
Were I a Muslim, I'd buy me an SA-7 and go hang out around Mt. Rushmore.
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:06:05 AM
So he'll be doing this a lot in the future, in order to get those photo ops?
Were I a Muslim, I'd buy me an SA-7 and go hang out around Mt. Rushmore.
Obama was not on the plane.
Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2009, 07:07:02 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 06:56:28 AM
Next time, maybe a little warning?
There was warning, of course. It is just that no knowledgeable people in NYC or the White House thought through the necessity of telling people what was going to happen.
Yeah, it's the NYPDs fault and that's Beautiful.
Just a photo op to get pics of Air Force One flying over various national landmarks. I guess poorly done in this case, but nothing much to see here.
Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2009, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:06:05 AM
So he'll be doing this a lot in the future, in order to get those photo ops?
Were I a Muslim, I'd buy me an SA-7 and go hang out around Mt. Rushmore.
Obama was not on the plane.
Well, that's too bad. I mean, it might be nice to shoot it down anyways, but so much for my career as a terrorist consultant.
I'm told by a friend of mine that the Americorps expansion is the first step in creating a Hitler Youth and federal police force that is loyal only to the president.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 28, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
I'm told by a friend of mine that the Americorps expansion is the first step in creating a Hitler Youth and federal police force that is loyal only to the president.
Could it be, Obama=Hitler? I thought that was Bush's standard!
I never thought to blame Obama directly for this-- shit happens sometimes that the guy in charge is unaware of. It does seem to highlight yet another poorly chosen appointee, however.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 28, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
I'm told by a friend of mine that the Americorps expansion is the first step in creating a Hitler Youth and federal police force that is loyal only to the president.
You got one of those friends too? I've got one hiding out in the boondocks of Ohio, waiting for FEMA to start rounding up people.
He's got a nice compound at least. With a hot tub.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 28, 2009, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 28, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
I'm told by a friend of mine that the Americorps expansion is the first step in creating a Hitler Youth and federal police force that is loyal only to the president.
You got one of those friends too? I've got one hiding out in the boondocks of Ohio, waiting for FEMA to start rounding up people.
He's got a nice compound at least. With a hot tub.
Paranoia is her new middle name.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 28, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 28, 2009, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 28, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
I'm told by a friend of mine that the Americorps expansion is the first step in creating a Hitler Youth and federal police force that is loyal only to the president.
You got one of those friends too? I've got one hiding out in the boondocks of Ohio, waiting for FEMA to start rounding up people.
He's got a nice compound at least. With a hot tub.
Paranoia is her new middle name.
ooooo, a her. tap that ball of crazy.
what does NYC think when a black helicopter flies overhead? blame the UN?
Quote from: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 09:34:40 AM
what does NYC think when a black helicopter flies overhead? blame the UN?
Who else?
Suddenly Seedy's idea of flying a Stuka with Jericho Trumpet over Jewish neighborhoods doesn't seem so insensitive.
So if Hans was wrong about this, could he be wrong about other things when he blames Obama for some ill in the world?
Dude, everyday I like this President less and less.
And it have nothing to do with this fly-over.
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2009, 11:02:34 AM
Suddenly Seedy's idea of flying a Stuka with Jericho Trumpet over Jewish neighborhoods doesn't seem so insensitive.
CdM is an asshole, no matter what.
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Dude, everyday I like this President less and less.
And it have nothing to do with this fly-over.
Luckily, he doesn't care about your opinion.
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Dude, everyday I like this President less and less.
And it have nothing to do with this fly-over.
WTF, soldier! He is your commander in chief! He owns your ass.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 06:39:31 AMLuckily, he doesn't care about your opinion.
If Seige has the right to vote, Obama cares about his opinion, but in that case no more than mine or anyone else's.
Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2009, 06:59:34 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 06:39:31 AMLuckily, he doesn't care about your opinion.
If Seige has the right to vote, Obama cares about his opinion, but in that case no more than mine or anyone else's.
See Tamas' post.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 07:00:43 AMSee Tamas' post.
I saw it, but I don't see the relevance to the notion that he wouldn't care about Seigey's opinion. :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 07:00:43 AMSee Tamas' post.
I saw it, but I don't see the relevance to the notion that he wouldn't care about Seigey's opinion. :huh:
Does the Commander care about what his soldier think before ordering him to fire?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 07:03:35 AMDoes the Commander care about what his soldier think before ordering him to fire?
:huh:
You must be living in some fantasy world where Obama is a general instead of an elected official, and/or Seigey is a slave warrior instead of a franchised constituent. :contract:
Hi, could you stop being so dense & take the joke?
Gawd!
Cheers, GF.
Jokes should be accompanied by: emoticons! :smarty:
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Obama hates New Yorkers.... :(
Quote from: KRonn on April 29, 2009, 08:01:42 AM
Obama hates New Yorkers.... :(
Of course he does. People from Chicago have always been jealous of New York, and it's just gotten worse since Chicago lost it's status as America's second city.
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Dude, everyday I like this President less and less.
And it have nothing to do with this fly-over.
"Has". It should be "and it has nothing to do with this fly-over".
Usually I would end a post like this flaunting my old Grammar Gestapo badge but given the circumstances we better omit that part and jump directly to the funny part...
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Los Angeles. :wub: