Poll
Question:
Positive or negative feeling?
Option 1: Positive
votes: 9
Option 2: Negative
votes: 8
Option 3: Neutral
votes: 5
Option 4: You stupid Amerikkans and your stoopid sports no one cares about
votes: 9
Option 5: Will Jaron have to wear magic underpants?
votes: 2
I'm positive. He's a great coach, players love him, his players are not thugs or illiterates, he did a great job with the Olympic team. He gets intense during games, but the refs are free to T up anyone they feel is crossing the line and by and large they haven't handed many to K. Students get loud and rowdy at games, but I haven't seen any behavior that would qualify as smug, assholehish or however else Throbby described it.
Neutral
Positive. He runs a great program AND he doesnt let bad refs get away with calling a bad game.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 17, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
I'm positive. He's a great coach,
No question. But being great doesn't mean you aren't a douchebag. See his mentor Bob Knight.
Quoteplayers love him,
True.
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his players are not thugs
Oh? Laetner stomping on another player is not thuglike?
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or illiterates,
Racist!
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he did a great job with the Olympic team. He gets intense during games, but the refs are free to T up anyone they feel is crossing the line and by and large they haven't handed many to K. Students get loud and rowdy at games, but I haven't seen any behavior that would qualify as smug, assholehish or however else Throbby described it.
Calling JR Reid stupid because he is black is not assholish?
{quote=SI]The Crazies earned their reputation in the '80s, when overweight opponents were pelted with Twinkies and those accused of sexual misconduct were showered with panties or condoms. Taunts such as "Safety school!" (toward Wake Forest) and "We're smart! You're dumb!" (at UNC) that play off Duke's academic standards continue to anger not only opponents but also many among the 4,000-plus students who don't attend games. Explains Mike Corey, sports editor of the student paper, The Chronicle, "Lots of students don't like the implicit condescension." [/quote]
The Crazies are most definitely rather well known for their smug and assholish behavior, although that really *isn't* one of the reasons I dislike Duke. Hell, a rowdy student section is to be desired, and I would rather have mine crossing the line rather than never skirting it.
They said JR Reid was stupid *because* he's black?
I don't remember Laetner stomping anyone. I remember that clean cut black guard breaking Montrose's face.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 17, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
I don't remember Laetner stomping anyone. I remember that clean cut black guard breaking Montrose's face.
I remember Laetner hitting a shot with no time left in the Tournament. Pure magic.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 17, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
They said JR Reid was stupid *because* he's black?
I don't remember Laetner stomping anyone. I remember that clean cut black guard breaking Montrose's face.
I did, and it was glorious. Also, BRING BACK ALAA ABELNABY.
I like Coach K, fucking hate Duke.
And anyone who went anywhere else that plays basketball should, on principle, hate Duke.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 17, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
I don't remember Laetner stomping anyone. I remember that clean cut black guard breaking Montrose's face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwYVTB2rZw
I hate Duke and Coach K. No real reason other than they are successful and I have no reason to root for them.
I like him because he annoys so many of you.
Anyway, I don't really like Nball.
It may have been invented by a Canadian, but basketball does nothing for me. :mellow:
Fuck him, and fuck Duke. Fuckers.
Quote from: Barrister on November 17, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
It may have been invented by a Canadian, but basketball does nothing for me. :mellow:
Really? Why is running up and down a court and throwing a ball in a net so much less compelling than skating up and down a rink hitting a puck in a net?
Basketball is nice to play and completely boring to watch.
Yeah, agree with Brain. The last few minutes of a close game can be exciting, but other than that they might as well be playing an exhibition game.
Quote from: The Brain on November 18, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
Basketball is nice to play and completely boring to watch.
Agreed. A lot like footie in that regard.
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2011, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on November 17, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
It may have been invented by a Canadian, but basketball does nothing for me. :mellow:
Really? Why is running up and down a court and throwing a ball in a net so much less compelling than skating up and down a rink hitting a puck in a net?
No hitting for one.
And while I like a nice high-scoring hockey game, the scoring in basketball is so out of control it loses any excitement. You hardly stand up and cheer when a basket is scored every minute or two.
My own perception only. Hardly saying that people are stupid for watching basketball. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
It's also pretty obvious that I'm a home-town boy when it comes to team sports. And theres no pro basketball team in Winnipeg (actually there was a short-lived minor league team in the 90s that did pretty well, but the league collapsed around them).
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2011, 09:49:13 AMReally? Why is running up and down a court and throwing a ball in a net so much less compelling than skating up and down a rink hitting a puck in a net?
The real answer?
Because the way you're socialized. If the sport is:
- Local to you, so everyone around you cares about it
- One you watched while growing up
- One you played while growing up
- One in which you can field a good national team
- One which has broad cultural resonance in the culture you're part of
- One which you've been exposed to enough that you have an intuitive grasp of the tactics and skill involved
Then you're more likely to find it compelling compared to a sport for which none of that is true.
Yeah, different sports are different to play and watch due to the rules, but I think the most important facets are ones they all have in common: identification with your team as a social experience, appreciation of the nuances of skill and tactics, and bitching about the refereeing/ bad luck to people who appreciate the same sport.
Quote from: Jacob on November 18, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
The real answer?
Because the way you're socialized.
True. I guess I am just a sports junkie though I literally like every sport. If I moved to Ireland I would be enthusiastically following all their weird Gaellic sports.
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2011, 12:36:39 PMTrue. I guess I am just a sports junkie though I literally like every sport. If I moved to Ireland I would be enthusiastically following all their weird Gaellic sports.
Hurling and Gaelic rules football are both pretty cool.
A lot of students around here take up hurling every friday night.
Quote from: PDH on November 18, 2011, 01:24:59 PM
A lot of students around here take up hurling every friday night.
:lol:
Quote from: Jacob on November 18, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2011, 09:49:13 AMReally? Why is running up and down a court and throwing a ball in a net so much less compelling than skating up and down a rink hitting a puck in a net?
The real answer?
Because the way you're socialized. If the sport is:
- Local to you, so everyone around you cares about it
- One you watched while growing up
- One you played while growing up
- One in which you can field a good national team
- One which has broad cultural resonance in the culture you're part of
- One which you've been exposed to enough that you have an intuitive grasp of the tactics and skill involved
Then you're more likely to find it compelling compared to a sport for which none of that is true.
Yeah, different sports are different to play and watch due to the rules, but I think the most important facets are ones they all have in common: identification with your team as a social experience, appreciation of the nuances of skill and tactics, and bitching about the refereeing/ bad luck to people who appreciate the same sport.
While there's no doubt a lot of truth in what you say, that's not all that there is to it. High school basketball is big in WV (possibly bigger than h.s. football), and I enjoy playing basketball, but I don't much care for it as a spectator sport.
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2011, 07:22:47 PM
While there's no doubt a lot of truth in what you say, that's not all that there is to it. High school basketball is big in WV (possibly bigger than h.s. football), and I enjoy playing basketball, but I don't much care for it as a spectator sport.
There is a lot to this. For example BB has never lived anywhere where he could watch good basketball - hence his belief a basket is only scored every "minute or two". Good basketball is also hard to find in Canada since we dont get much NCAA coverage up here. As I argued in the other thread NBA basketball is not as good as NCAA so I can understand how people who dont watch much and only see the occasional NBA game could come to that conclusion basketball is not very fun to watch.
However, if one was to watch a great college game - say Duke playing NC - it would be pretty tough to say that was boring. One fly in the ointment for Jacob's theory is I find Hockey very boring. The only time I watch is in the playoffs and even then only a few games.