Good idea.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203537304577028490161890480.html
QuoteNOVEMBER 10, 2011
U.S. to Build Up Military in Australia
Move Aimed at Countering China in Asia,Clarifying Free Access to South China Sea
WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama will announce an accord for a new and permanent U.S. military presence in Australia when he visits next week, a step aimed at countering China's influence and reasserting U.S. interest in the region, said people familiar with his plans.
The agreement will lead to an increase in U.S. naval operations off the coast of Australia and give American troops and ships "permanent and constant" access to Australian facilities, the people said. While no new American bases will be built under the plan, the arrangement will allow U.S. forces to place equipment in Australia and set up more joint exercises, they said.
The move could help the U.S. military, now concentrated in Japan and South Korea in Northeast Asia, to spread its influence west and south across the region, including the strategically and economically important South China Sea, which China considers as its sovereign territory.
It was unclear how much the new presence would cost the Pentagon, which is facing years and hundreds of billion dollars in spending cuts.
But the expanded military presence is designed as a demonstration of U.S. commitment to the region, part of an effort to refocus on Asia as the U.S. withdraws from Iraq and draws its forces down in Afghanistan, officials in both countries said.
"It will demonstrate U.S. resolve, not just for Australia, but in the region," Maj. Gen. Tim McOwan, the Australian defense attaché in Washington, said in an interview this week.
At a daily press briefing on Thursday, Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Chinese officials "hope relevant countries' bilateral cooperation will be conducive to the Asia-Pacific region's security, peace and stability."
The strategy comes weeks after China sent its first its first aircraft carrier to sea, a defining moment in its effort to become a top-tier naval power that seeks to challenge U.S. military supremacy in Asia and protect Chinese economic interests that now span the globe.
Several Asian nations, fearful of the threat China poses, also are beefing up their arsenals, fearing that the U.S. security umbrella is being eroded by China's enhanced capabilities and possible U.S. defense cuts.
One base slated for the stepped-up American presence is in Darwin, on the country's north coast. Other locations are possible, including one near Perth, on the west coast, one person said.
"Strategically, we want to be able to reassure the rest of Asia that the American presence is still strong in the 21st century as China develops its force," said Ernie Bower, director of the Southeast Asia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
Officials declined to detail how many new troops or sailors would be part of the U.S. effort, or how many ships would be stationed in the area, ahead of Mr. Obama's announcement next week. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, while traveling throughout the region last month, vowed an expansion in U.S. influence, but also declined to specify costs or force sizes.
An administration official said the stepped-up presence will be phased in over several years under the agreement. The deal isn't yet final and details could change.
On his trip, Mr. Obama will mark the 60th anniversary of the U.S.-Australian alliance with a speech to Parliament and a visit to a military base in Darwin, where he and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard will jointly address Australian troops.
Neither leader is expected to characterize the move as directly confronting the Chinese. But U.S. officials said one of the goals of Mr. Obama's Asia trip is to clarify free access to the South China Sea.
Mr. Panetta, after a meeting with the Australians in September, said that enhanced military cooperation would counter "threats and challenges" to come. "Security and prosperity of our two great nations depends on the security and prosperity of the Asia-Pacific region," he said.
The full range of U.S. naval ships is expected to rotate through the joint facilities, stopping for exercises as well as repairs and other shore work. Naval aircraft also will have access to a base in Darwin.
The increased U.S. presence will be a rotating force, one person said. In September, Australian Defence Minister Stephen Smith said the enhance cooperation would be "more ships in, ships out; more planes in, planes out; more troops in, troops out."
Gen. McOwan, the defense attaché, said the increase in U.S. naval operations will send a message to the Chinese that the U.S. is committed to defending the security of regional sea and air trade routes. The stepped-up American presence will reassure Australia and well as other countries in the region that the U.S. is engaged at a time when Chinese intentions are uncertain, he said.
Still, Gen. McOwan added that the American commitments Mr. Obama plans to announce are "not going to frighten the Chinese."
"It's more symbolic than real," he said.
Domino theory?
The Aussie-American Axis will rule the Ring of Fire with an iron fist.
Perth is about as far away from the South China sea as Hawaii :hmm:
Darwin would be much better :armchair admiral:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 11, 2011, 03:17:27 PM
Perth is about as far away from the South China sea as Hawaii :hmm:
Darwin would be much better :armchair admiral:
Politically impossible to base American troops in Darwin.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 11, 2011, 03:17:27 PM
Perth is about as far away from the South China sea as Hawaii :hmm:
Ummm... no.
QuoteDarwin would be much better :armchair admiral:
And Exmouth or Darby better yet, if we are just talking location.
Exmouth, Darby and Darwin lack any significant maritime infrastructure, though.
Quote from: The Brain on November 11, 2011, 03:47:21 PM
Politically impossible to base American troops in Darwin.
We would just make them change the name to Jesus.
I am all for expanding the opportunities of American servicemen to be stationed in such places as Australia.
Wouldn't the Philippines be a more logical choice?
Quote from: Razgovory on November 11, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
Wouldn't the Philippines be a more logical choice?
They asked us to leave.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 11, 2011, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 11, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
Wouldn't the Philippines be a more logical choice?
They asked us to leave.
They seemed rather regretful over that when I was over there, however Australia is certainly far more stable.
There are enough damn Filipinos hanging around the military. We need more Aussies.
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 11, 2011, 06:51:52 PM
There are enough damn Filipinos hanging around the military. We need more Aussies.
Filipinas were incredibly hot.
Yes they are. ;)
We've had naval stations there not to long ago, and with China making noises about all those little islands in the South China Sea (some of which area claimed by the Philippines, I believe), I don't think it's impossible to get a base there again.
Hell, some are talking about us getting Da Nang again. Charlie doesn't surf.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 11, 2011, 07:06:26 PM
Hell, some are talking about us getting Da Nang again. Charlie doesn't surf.
Funny how things turn out. Geography often trumps Ideology.
Will the Aussies let us stick nukes their this time?
Quote from: Berkut on November 11, 2011, 07:36:34 PM
Will the Aussies let us stick nukes their this time?
Thought it was the Kiwis who gave us a hard time about that.
Quote from: dps on November 11, 2011, 10:02:11 PMThought it was the Kiwis who gave us a hard time about that.
New Zealand's nuclear free. David Lange's a bit of a hero. Wonderful, fascinating Labour leader.
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 12, 2011, 09:51:34 AM
Quote from: dps on November 11, 2011, 10:02:11 PMThought it was the Kiwis who gave us a hard time about that.
New Zealand's nuclear free. David Lange's a bit of a hero. Wonderful, fascinating Labour leader.
Hooray for Luddites!
Cool, as someone said, another good location for US troops to be stationed in!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2011, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 11, 2011, 06:51:52 PM
There are enough damn Filipinos hanging around the military. We need more Aussies.
Filipinas were incredibly hot.
But aussies are white.
Why are New Zealanders called Kiwis?
Quote from: Siege on November 13, 2011, 01:32:01 AM
Why are New Zealanders called Kiwis?
Because of the bird.
Quote from: Barrister on November 13, 2011, 02:01:59 AM
Quote from: Siege on November 13, 2011, 01:32:01 AM
Why are New Zealanders called Kiwis?
Because of the bird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB_fDwBMkCQ&ob=av3n