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Title: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: The Larch on October 20, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15393014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15393014)

QuoteBasque group Eta says armed campaign is over

The Basque separatist group Eta says it has called a "definitive cessation" to its campaign of bombings and shootings.

In a statement provided to the BBC, Eta called on the Spanish and French governments to respond with "a process of direct dialogue".

The declaration, if followed through, would bring an end to Eta's campaign of violence, which has lasted more than 40 years and killed more than 800 people.

The Spanish government has not yet responded to the announcement.

Analysts say it is likely to react with caution, and repeat its call for Eta to disarm and disband.

They say Eta has been badly weakened by a security crackdown in recent years.

The declaration follows a conference this week in the Basque Country, attended by international statesmen including former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, and protagonists in the Northern Ireland peace process.

They called on Eta to lay down its arms.

The BBC's Madrid correspondent, Sarah Rainsford, says the event was so carefully choreographed that this move from Eta was widely anticipated.
Ceasefire broken

In its statement, Eta said "a new political age is opening" in the Basque Country.

"We face a historic opportunity to obtain a just and democratic solution to the age-old political conflict," it said.

"Eta has decided on the definitive cessation of its armed activity. Eta makes a call to the governments of Spain and France to open a process of direct dialogue which has as its aim the resolution of the consequences of the conflict and thus the conclusion of the armed conflict. With this historic declaration, Eta demonstrates its clear, firm and definitive purpose."

The announcement - provided to the BBC as well as to Spanish media and the Basque separatist outlet Gara - is the latest step in what Eta claims is a transition to peaceful methods.

In September 2010, it announced, again to the BBC, a decision not to carry out further attacks.

In January this year, it declared a permanent and "internationally verifiable" ceasefire.

Spain's Socialist government has continued to insist that it will not negotiate on demands for Basque self-determination until Eta disbands.

The government is cautious about engaging in another peace process, after the last one failed.

It opened contacts with Eta when the group called a "permanent" ceasefire in 2006, only to break it by bombing an airport car park in Madrid, killing two people.

The group has also abandoned previous ceasefires.

Inigo Gurruchaga, of El Correo, the most prominent newspaper in the Basque Country, says Eta simply used previous truces to reorganise and rearm.

But this time appears to be different, he says.

Not only has there not been a killing for more than two years, but businessmen have stopped receiving demands for a "revolutionary tax", and there have not been street protests by Eta supporters for several months.

The group is also widely considered to have been seriously weakened, by a concerted Spanish and French crackdown.

Dozens of Eta militants, including successive leaders, have been arrested and jailed, and analysts say the group realises its days are numbered.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Enter the "Real ETA".  ;)

Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: garbon on October 20, 2011, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Enter the "Real ETA".  ;)



Right?
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:55:43 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 20, 2011, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Enter the "Real ETA".  ;)



Right?

I hope not.

Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: The Larch on October 20, 2011, 12:56:50 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Enter the "Real ETA".  ;)

The current ETA is actually the splinter, after the majority faction (ETA (pm)) decided to disband in 1984.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Syt on October 20, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
ETA, RAF, IRA, Action Directe, Brigate Rosse . . . the good old days when terrorism was about something - all gone. :weep:
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: The Minsky Moment on October 20, 2011, 02:31:26 PM
The provisional faction has already joined PETA.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: FunkMonk on October 20, 2011, 02:41:39 PM
Terrorism isn't cool anymore.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Iormlund on October 20, 2011, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: The Larch on October 20, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
Spain's Socialist government has continued to insist that it will not negotiate on demands for Basque self-determination until Eta disbands.

This statement is downright weird. No government has the power to grant independence to Euskadi, much less the current one, that will last only another month.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 20, 2011, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: The Larch on October 20, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
Spain's Socialist government has continued to insist that it will not negotiate on demands for Basque self-determination until Eta disbands.

This statement is downright weird. No government has the power to grant independence to Euskadi, much less the current one, that will last only another month.

Dont those provinces have a lot of autonomy already?
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Iormlund on October 21, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
Yeah. They run their own police force, taxation, healthcare, education ...
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Valmy on October 21, 2011, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 21, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
Yeah. They run their own police force, taxation, healthcare, education ...

Taxation?  Do they pay no tax to the central government?  Or is it like a US state?
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Neil on October 21, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
"It's like a million Lettows cried out, and then were suddenly silenced."
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: The Larch on October 21, 2011, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 21, 2011, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 21, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
Yeah. They run their own police force, taxation, healthcare, education ...

Taxation?  Do they pay no tax to the central government?  Or is it like a US state?

They have a special arrangement, the "Concierto económico vasco", that applies both to the Basque Country and Navarra. Taxation there is handled differently than in the rest of Spain, as many other issues, because they have historically had a different system to run things there according to their own historical regulations, their "fueros".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Economic_Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Economic_Agreement)
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 22, 2011, 07:52:12 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 21, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
Yeah. They run their own police force, taxation, healthcare, education ...

want
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: sbr on October 22, 2011, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: Neil on October 21, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
"It's like a million Lettows cried out, and then were suddenly silenced."

:D
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Josquius on October 22, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 20, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Enter the "Real ETA".  ;)


:lol:
Just what I was thinking.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: jimmy olsen on October 23, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
Good, death to separatism.
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Tonitrus on October 23, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 23, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
Good, death to separatism.

Why do you hate America?  :(
Title: Re: ETA calls it quits, at last
Post by: Neil on October 23, 2011, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 23, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 23, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
Good, death to separatism.
Why do you hate America?  :(
Because traitors are unworthy of love.