So, since we have a pretty good number of rather smart people I wanted to start a thread asking for your predictions about the next fear years, mainly in economy but also in politics etc. It seems it's almost a given now that we are in a double dip recession (or is it?) so will we go into depression/stagnation or rebound? Will Obama stay in power for another term? Will Euro survive? Will the world end in 2012?
Discuss.
I think we may go on business as usual like after the internet bubble, until the green energy bubble hits us.
But also this may very well be a fork in the road for the EU. It will probably not remain as it is now, halfway between integration and loose partnership. The troubles are in fact an opportunity to force through reforms making it the USE on the long run.
There is always opportunity in adversity.
Why do you think that green energy will lead to an asset bubble, Tamas?
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 10:18:49 AM
Why do you think that green energy will lead to an asset bubble, Tamas?
Well, I just mentioned it for dramatic effect. But I think that with the current state capitalistic-ish system we have, we are moving from one artifically inflated bubble to the next, and I can't right now think of any other sector which could bubble-fy. Biotech might, but there are insane practical advancements to be made there. And in wind or solar energy - not so much, imho.
The green bubble already imploded over here. We're ages beyond you guys. :P
It doesn't have to be some newish field of technology. The last bubble was in real estate after all.
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
It doesn't have to be some newish field of technology. The last bubble was in real estate after all.
Well, for Tamas, private ownership of real property is probably innovative. :P
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
It doesn't have to be some newish field of technology. The last bubble was in real estate after all.
Well, for Tamas, private ownership of real property is probably innovative. :P
Hey now. It's not like you're from a much better place.
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
It doesn't have to be some newish field of technology. The last bubble was in real estate after all.
Well, for Tamas, private ownership of real property is probably innovative. :P
:lol:
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
It doesn't have to be some newish field of technology. The last bubble was in real estate after all.
Well, for Tamas, private ownership of real property is probably innovative. :P
God damn this has to be one of the biggest pot-meet-kettle moments in the forum history.
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I think it's a mistake to assign a concrete political ideology to Martinus.
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I think it's a mistake to assign a concrete political ideology to Martinus.
Indeed. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
God damn this has to be one of the biggest pot-meet-kettle moments in the forum history.
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I think it's a mistake to assign a concrete political ideology to Martinus.
Indeed. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.
I don't think of you as being especially imaginative.
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
God damn this has to be one of the biggest pot-meet-kettle moments in the forum history.
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
the very foundations which keep a lynchmob from hanging you from a lamppost. They have several options to justificate that:
-you are gay
-you are rich
-you have a very jewish-suspectible profession
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
God damn this has to be one of the biggest pot-meet-kettle moments in the forum history.
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
the very foundations which keep a lynchmob from hanging you from a lamppost. They have several options to justificate that:
-you are gay
-you are rich
-you have a very jewish-suspectible profession
Yeah because Christianity has been so good at keep gays and Jews safe. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
God damn this has to be one of the biggest pot-meet-kettle moments in the forum history.
Besides, you are the socialist, not me
I'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
the very foundations which keep a lynchmob from hanging you from a lamppost. They have several options to justificate that:
-you are gay
-you are rich
-you have a very jewish-suspectible profession
Yeah because Christianity has been so good at keep gays and Jews safe. :rolleyes:
It really has, hasn't it?
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:05:10 PMI'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
The replacement could be worse...
We will make First Contact next year.
December 24th of this year. Great Dragon Ryumyo.
Quote from: Zanza on October 02, 2011, 02:05:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2011, 01:05:10 PMI'm not a socialist. I just temporarily support ideologies that destroy family values and undermine judeo-christian foundations of our society.
The replacement could be worse...
Marty cried when the Russians left.
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
I don't think of you as being especially imaginative.
He does keep saying that he is a lawyer. That takes some imagination, I would think.
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2011, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
I don't think of you as being especially imaginative.
He does keep saying that he is a lawyer. That takes some imagination, I would think.
More imagination that any real lawyer would possess :hmm:
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
Quote from: Iormlund on October 02, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
The green bubble already imploded over here. We're ages beyond you guys. :P
Five years ago you guys were the absolute shizznit we were all supposed to be emulating.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
Someone's feeling optimistic. Very few shooting sprees go on long enough to expend a thousand rounds.
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
Someone's feeling optimistic. Very few shooting sprees go on long enough to expend a thousand rounds.
plenty of poors to shoot.
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
Someone's feeling optimistic. Very few shooting sprees go on long enough to expend a thousand rounds.
His compund fields a small case military anyway. That wasn't a personal order.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 03, 2011, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 02, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
The green bubble already imploded over here. We're ages beyond you guys. :P
Five years ago you guys were the absolute shizznit we were all supposed to be emulating.
And if you bastards had emulated us the bubble would still be growing and all would be well. :mad:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
With what are you planning to shoot those rounds?
I can't think of a single weapon system that fires 7.62x39 that have any accuracy.
You planning to spray and pray, arab style?
Anything smaller than 7.62x51 have to be 5.56x45. Do not waste your time with 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.
Quote from: Siege on October 03, 2011, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
I just ordered a thousand 7.62x39 rounds.
With what are you planning to shoot those rounds?
I can't think of a single weapon system that fires 7.62x39 that have any accuracy.
You planning to spray and pray, arab style?
Anything smaller than 7.62x51 have to be 5.56x45. Do not waste your time with 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.
Semi-auto AK-47 and SKS-M. Poors tend to clump up, so when the hippies come, accuracy won't be much of a problem.
Quote from: Siege on October 03, 2011, 06:51:41 PM
You planning to spray and pray, arab style?
:lol:
Oh, and I am moving everything into the Kruger Rand.