....will be an unmitigated disaster I am afraid, which is a shame as they had some interesting ideas.
But 6 days from release, and no gameplay video, or a preview? The trailer they recently released is a tech demo at best, and not an impressive one.
Rather puzzling.
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
Rather puzzling.
Getting a game out as fast as possible to take advantage of market buzz isnt so mysterious. I am sure there are people out there that will buy this on the strength of the title alone.
If only Paradox had made this game. :(
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
Rather puzzling.
Getting a game out as fast as possible to take advantage of market buzz isnt so mysterious. I am sure there are people out there that will buy this on the strength of the title alone.
This has been in the works for quite a while now.
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
Rather puzzling.
Getting a game out as fast as possible to take advantage of market buzz isnt so mysterious. I am sure there are people out there that will buy this on the strength of the title alone.
This has been in the works for quite a while now.
What does that have to do with trying to get the game out as fast as possible to take advantage of hype over the TV series and the lastest book?
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
Rather puzzling.
Getting a game out as fast as possible to take advantage of market buzz isnt so mysterious. I am sure there are people out there that will buy this on the strength of the title alone.
This has been in the works for quite a while now.
What does that have to do with trying to get the game out as fast as possible to take advantage of hype over the TV series and the lastest book?
good point
I didn't think anyone made games for the Genesis anymore.
Their stonewalling over putting up anything game-related rather than simple fluff like a crappy trailer is a sure indicator the game is going to be pretty mediocre. Might be worth buying when it's $10 and patched, though.
It is a shame, it was sounding potentially OK...but at the core it was a low budget TW clone and those never work out.
Quote from: Tyr on September 27, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
It is a shame, it was sounding potentially OK...but at the core it was a low budget TW clone and those never work out.
:huh: The game's nothing like TW.
It is a French studio making this game it seems.
So the game will :
(a) be a bit weird
(b) have some intriguing ideas and concepts
(c) not work properly
:bowler:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on September 27, 2011, 01:56:27 AM
It is a French studio making this game it seems.
So the game will :
(a) be a bit weird
(b) have some intriguing ideas and concepts
(c) not work properly
:bowler:
I've only played one French PC game that I can remember. Arx Fatalis which I thought was fantastic.
Cyanide also made Blood Bowl, which is great.
But I can't see how this one will not suck.
Quote from: Tamas on September 27, 2011, 02:08:43 AM
Cyanide also made Blood Bowl, which is great.
But I can't see how this one will not suck.
The trailer I saw didn't impress me. It looked a bit like Rise of Nations, which I thought was only fair.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2011, 02:13:23 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 27, 2011, 02:08:43 AM
Cyanide also made Blood Bowl, which is great.
But I can't see how this one will not suck.
The trailer I saw didn't impress me. It looked a bit like Rise of Nations, which I thought was only fair.
Yes the trailer did not show anything Dune 2 couldn't produce (graphics aside of course). Namely, units moving around. Big deal.
Since it appears to be an RTS game, I'm guessing from the screen shots it's a like Rise of Nations (which combined Civilization style city building with Warcraft style RTS action. I like RTS games, but I'm not really good at the twitch reflexes needed to master them. I also don't care enough to memorize the keys. Still that doesn't seem to do justice for the subject matter which was more about court intrigue then battles (and the building of armies). I suspect that Crusader Kings II will be a better ASOIAF game then a Game of Thrones.
it should be like CK or Sengoku game if anything :(
unless they'd make it SC2 story driven clone
Apparently they are making an RPG as well.
The manual and the game are both out on Steam. Manual link :
http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/58550/AGOT_MANUAL_EN.pdf?t=1317163811
thanks for the heads-up! 40 euros though... Bleh
Quote from: Tamas on September 28, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
thanks for the heads-up! 40 euros though... Bleh
Yeah. I'm waiting until several reviews are out before I even consider buying.
Will consider it, but my hopes aren't very high all things considered. :(
....I want it though.
A guy's doing a Let's Play series on YouTube (which is more than the fucking company can manage) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjSsOo0TCdY&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: Habbaku on September 28, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
A guy's doing a Let's Play series on YouTube (which is more than the fucking company can manage) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjSsOo0TCdY&feature=youtu.be
Doesn't look that interesting really.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/a-game-of-thrones-genesis
5.6 user score, pushed up by one 8/10... :D
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-Genesis-Download/dp/B005LIV3ES/
$30 on amazon for a download
Currently getting 5.8 on Metacritic's user reviews...Steer clear!
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/a-game-of-thrones-genesis
QuoteSome people here must be joking. Cyanides own forums is teeming over with people who are literally pissed off at this game for not delivering what it promised. Basically what it is, is a very shallow world, if we take the HvH mode. No location or city or town got any names assigned to them. Your own capital town is called Feudal home. Very rich, very immersive. The game itself bases around gathering 100 presige points, which you have many ways to get but many fewer ways to lose. Generally speaking a game is rather short, since 100 prestige points isn't hard to achieve. When you've got them you won, game's over byebye cya next time. The only reason they label it "Brute military force is not the only way to win" is because brute military force can't win the game. By the time you get to tedious wars, the game is over. The game is really a capture the node game. Start with a base, send out envoys, noble ladies, spies and god knows what, and "ally" surrounding towns to gain income. You send out a peasant to manage the fields and 1-2 merchants to every town and gold mine to gain money. Essentially it's just a capture the node game dressed up and labelled as something creative. Unfortunately they failed to deliver. There are no hotkeys, no way to assign armies, the minimap is rubbish and the instructions and information is either wrong or contain typos. Unlike my review, their text should be flawless, the least to expect from a company. Nonetheless it's not. You can find "loose" instead of "lose" along with information that the minimap is on the left side while it's on the right. It could've been done so much better. In fact with a lot of tweaking it's a promising concept, just drop all the focus on the neutrals and increase the diplomacy and underhanding with the other houses. Give it a decent combat system, not combat focused, but you should atleast be able to fight your way through a game if you'd like that. Add more options. For heavens sake there's not even a way to change the victory requirements in HvH. No spend your money elsewhere and don't let those "I rank this game 8 because I've never played any other strategy game and I think this is kind of good" fool you. There's a flood of better Strategy games out there. Europa Universalis 3, The Total War series, Civilization etc etc
That sounds exactly like what I thought it would be.
:yes:
Was just about to quote that review, myself. The official forums for the game are aflame with angst over the same stuff as well.
Dammit.
So EU3 is better? Is that EU3 Complete or EU3 complete?
EU 3 is a lot better, but they're not really the same genre.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
I am sure there are people out there that will buy this on the strength of the title alone.
Called it.
Although no great feat there.
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=66482&page=3
:hmm:
QuoteAll right, there is some crazy shit in this game. You can capture enemy spies and assassins and imprison them in your feudal home. Then your opponent has to pay a ransom to you to free them. Or you can set them free on your own, to add points to the peace bar. Units that you hire, in your own freaking castle, may not actually be loyal to you. Because an opponent can infiltrate your feudal home with a spy, which then makes the next unit that you hire a double agent. If you don't marry your Great Lord quickly enough, he'll start producing Bastards, which are actual units on the map that your foes can use against you, if they find them. Or you can pay gold to recognize a bastard as your true heir. Having an alliance with a town lets you see stuff in its sight radius... unless it's actually a false alliance, in which case things might secretly still be hidden from you.
Why did they have to do this an RTS? Judging by what I read in that thread, and what I read on the official forums, it might just be a perfectly fine somewhat-themed strategy game buried under a not really applicable interface.
Later in the thread, by the same poster :
QuoteWe've got a combined three hours of experience between the two of us, and no one else has played it. There's a lot good here, but it could also suck really hard.
I'm shocked that Tampax splooged all over the hype and then the game sucks.
O MAN I PLYED FOR 5 MINS AND THS GM IS SO FIN OSSUM.
:lol:
well, doh.
Don't blame me for wanting this to work. I would have already told you how it is, expect that it cannot be obtained yet :P
PS. I am ignoring The Brain because of his continued usage of that derogatory twist of my name
I wanted it to work as well, but the game seems to lack anything and everything that would make an RTS good. Every complaint I've read says that the "War" phase lasts an obnoxiously short amount of time and that it is dull. I've no desire to play capture-the-node only to transition to a segment of the game that doesn't matter.
Shame, really, but not entirely unexpected. Back to waiting for the RPG...
http://deltagamer.com/17422/review-a-game-of-thrones-genesis
:blink:
Quotefidelity to the source material over pandering to a mainstream audience.
:lol: Yes, with my "Feudal Home," I can see how it's true to the source material.
:D
Quote from: Habbaku on October 01, 2011, 06:08:09 PM
Quotefidelity to the source material over pandering to a mainstream audience.
:lol: Yes, with my "Feudal Home," I can see how it's true to the source material.
A few paragraphs later he does write that it is very puzzling why they did not name the towns if they had the license. Also it writes about sucky graphics and needlesly overwhelming gameplay.
Well, It's different then I thought it would be. Though it does not appear to be good.
:lol: according to claims on the Wargamer, one dev said on the official forum that they can add town names, and another said they can't.
I did read up on the forums, and it appears to be confirmed that they will have properly named towns and cities in a soon-to-arrive patch.
Well, nice that this elaborate feature will be included... I am now going to install my 'obtained' version and tell you all what you are ought to think about it.
Quotetell you all what you are ought to think about it
Your record sucks.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 10, 2011, 07:05:38 PM
Quotetell you all what you are ought to think about it
Your record sucks.
I like that they've won Tamas over now because a patch will include proper city names. :rolleyes:
Your sarcasm meter is apparently broken, garbon.
I played the game for about 4 minutes.
3 major thoughts occured to me during that time:
-franctic clickfest in a new way, battling for influence with various tools and counter-tools, kudos for the devs for trying something new within this ultra-boring genre
-it has only marginally more AGOT feel to it then, say, Age of Empires 2
-no way I am going to put up with this franctic pace for a general medieval setting
I did browse the forum some more, and found a dev who claimed it was Martin who strongly opposed them using Westeros names for the characters in the game, or potentially fuckin' up his lore and map by using actual Westeros town names.
I have certainly read that Martin is pretty set against fan fiction.
Perhaps this attitude could bleed over into games?
But...they did have the license.