I contend that human life has very little value - unless it be dedicated to something greater than itself. And by this I do not mean one's own progeny or the accrual of one's personal wealth.
Discuss.
G.
Why? Life is pointless, thus discussion of it, likewise.
I have out-Franced you. :frog:
Quote from: Ideologue on August 21, 2011, 10:14:39 PM
Why? Life is pointless, thus discussion of it, likewise.
I have out-Franced you. :frog:
Well played, sir.
Ide won the thread.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 21, 2011, 10:14:39 PM
Why? Life is pointless, thus discussion of it, likewise.
I have out-Franced you. :frog:
I expect to see pictures of your suicide soon then :) Perhaps we should ask that ex gf of yours to take pictures as proof?
G.
What's the point of suicide? We're animals, after all.
Why is "something greater than yourself" not include your own children?
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2011, 10:37:12 PM
Why is "something greater than yourself" not include your own children?
Because children are annoying, and are not greater than adults.
That said, I'm sure that perpetuating the line is a 'something greater' for some people. Grallon wouldn't think so, but he can be blind sometimes because of his illness.
If ones life has little value than ones accomplishments have less value still. Such accomplishments are fleeting and unless monumental are soon forgotten. The odds of anyone makes such memorable monumental changes to the course of history are infinitesimal. Enjoy what time you have, worry not if you matter in the grand scheme of things, because chances are you don't.
Quote from: Grallon on August 21, 2011, 10:13:27 PM
I contend that human life has very little value - unless it be dedicated to something greater than itself. And by this I do not mean one's own progeny or the accrual of one's personal wealth.
Discuss.
G.
I think killing muslims is a worthy enterprise.
Additionally, space tech research seem worthy enough to me as well.
Archeology and historical research would be my 3rd pick.
Yes, archeology makes it all worthwhile.
And for the record, acumulation of wealth and procreation are definitively life goals.
After all, we are all doomed without either.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 21, 2011, 11:30:38 PM
Yes, archeology makes it all worthwhile.
What? Aren't you fascinated by the way human civilization have developed?
Quote from: Siege on August 21, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
What? Aren't you fascinated by the way human civilization have developed?
I am interested, sure. But studying something doesn't bestow meaning upon it if there was none beforehand.
My life is valuable to me, and that is all I need to know.
The purpose of life is enjoying oneself and not hurting other people too much. Accumulation of wealth helps one to enjoy one's life, and I'm led to believe people enjoy being parents (although I fail to see why it would be enjoyable).
You can give your life meaning on virtually any organizing principle that you choose. The trick I think is to associate yourself with enough people who validate that organizing principle. For some organizing principles like money, status, fame, or power it's not that hard.
Quote from: Grallon on August 21, 2011, 10:13:27 PM
I contend that human life has very little value - unless it be dedicated to something greater than itself. And by this I do not mean one's own progeny or the accrual of one's personal wealth.
Discuss.
G.
Value to whom?
Quote from: Grallon on August 21, 2011, 10:13:27 PM
I contend that human life has very little value - unless it be dedicated to something greater than itself. And by this I do not mean one's own progeny or the accrual of one's personal wealth.
So what are these things that exist that are greater than human life?
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2011, 01:32:37 AM
I'm led to believe people enjoy being parents (although I fail to see why it would be enjoyable).
It's hilarious
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 22, 2011, 01:53:42 AM
You can give your life meaning on virtually any organizing principle that you choose. The trick I think is to associate yourself with enough people who validate that organizing principle.
We had no idea you're really a high school girl. Queen Bee = Queen Yi :hmm:
Meaning is an entirely human concept so trying to find meaning outside of humanity strikes me as absurd.
Life means whatever meaning you choose to give it. Might as well create a good one for yourself.
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2011, 01:32:37 AM
The purpose of life is enjoying oneself and not hurting other people too much.
I see you have been reading Epicurus.
Quote from: Valmy on August 22, 2011, 08:09:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2011, 01:32:37 AM
The purpose of life is enjoying oneself and not hurting other people too much.
I see you have been reading Epicurus.
Epicurus never said shit about not hurting other people too much unless it turned them on.
lots of grallon's philosophies sound like something an angst ridden 15 year old would think. maybe he never grew up, and that's why he fucks 15 year olds?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 22, 2011, 03:38:45 AM
So what are these things that exist that are greater than human life?
Institutions mostly - the one type of human creation that spans the centuries - that informs several generations.
G.
Quote from: LaCroix on August 22, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
lots of grallon's philosophies sound like something an angst ridden 15 year old would think. maybe he never grew up, and that's why he fucks 15 year olds?
Immaturity is a homo trait.
You shouldn't confuse me for Martinus. :P
G.
I don't really care if my life has any meaning or not. I believe it does, but if not, I enjoy myself and if that's not good enough for anybody here, get over yourselves.
Quote from: Grallon on August 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
You shouldn't confuse me for Martinus. :P
G.
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
Life can certainly be a load of shit and I am not too enamoured of it myself. On the other hand, making the best of it is both beneficial to oneself and the people around you.
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
Need I remind the public that neither Martinus or I were ever diagnosed with clinical depression? This said, there's nothing wrong with hitting rock bottom. However pretending to do so, for glamour's sake, is quite unpalatable - for me anyway.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on August 23, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
Need I remind the public that neither Martinus or I were ever diagnosed with clinical depression? This said, there's nothing wrong with hitting rock bottom. However pretending to do so, for glamour's sake, is quite unpalatable - for me anyway.
G.
Admitting to suffering from a mental illness is a sign of immaturity? They sure raise them strange in Quebec. :huh:
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:01:50 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 23, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
Need I remind the public that neither Martinus or I were ever diagnosed with clinical depression? This said, there's nothing wrong with hitting rock bottom. However pretending to do so, for glamour's sake, is quite unpalatable - for me anyway.
G.
Admitting to suffering from a mental illness is a sign of immaturity? They sure raise them strange in Quebec. :huh:
Who claimed that they were suffering from clinical depression anyway. LaCroix and Neil basically called them whiny, immature brats. I didn't see any mention of clinical depression in either post.
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane, unlike garbon. He who lives in a house with padded walls shouldn't throw stones. Same goes for Raz.
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane, unlike garbon. He who lives in a house with padded walls shouldn't throw stones. Same goes for Raz.
That makes no sense. Garbon is not accusing you of being insane.
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane, unlike garbon. He who lives in a house with padded walls shouldn't throw stones. Same goes for Raz.
That makes no sense. Garbon is not accusing you of being insane.
I'm saying that someone who is insane is not the best judge of character.
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane,
says the hypochondriac :lol:
Quote from: HVC on August 24, 2011, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane,
says the hypochondriac :lol:
I wasn't diagnosed. :P
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane, unlike garbon. He who lives in a house with padded walls shouldn't throw stones. Same goes for Raz.
"You're being immature."
"Yeah? Well, you smell bad and your parents got divorced because of you."
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:58:32 AM
I'm saying that someone who is insane is not the best judge of character.
Ok but that is not the analogy you were using :P
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:58:32 AM
I'm saying that someone who is insane is not the best judge of character.
Ok but that is not the analogy you were using :P
I like that I accused them both of acting immature and I got accused of pretending to have a mental illness (Grallon) and of being insane (Mart). :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Yeah but at least we are not certifiably insane, unlike garbon. He who lives in a house with padded walls shouldn't throw stones. Same goes for Raz.
I don't know if modern psychology or law has reached Poland yet. Perhaps you could do some reading and educate yourself.
I suppose though that I should give you due credit for mocking the fact that I suffered from MDD last year. :)
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2011, 01:32:37 AM
The purpose of life is enjoying oneself and not hurting other people too much.
How can you enjoy yourself without hurting other people?
Oxymoron.
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: Grallon on August 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
You shouldn't confuse me for Martinus. :P
G.
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
They both had a great deal in common. If I was gay, I would fear they reflect badly on the ... whatever you guys call yourselves. Orientation? Species? I have no clue.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 24, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: Grallon on August 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
You shouldn't confuse me for Martinus. :P
G.
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
They both had a great deal in common. If I was gay, I would fear they reflect badly on the ... whatever you guys call yourselves. Orientation? Species? I have no clue.
If it's any consolation, you do reflect badly on Missouri. :)
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Quote from: dps on August 24, 2011, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 24, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 23, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: Grallon on August 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
You shouldn't confuse me for Martinus. :P
G.
Both you and Mart make a strong case for Neil's assertion. -_-
They both had a great deal in common. If I was gay, I would fear they reflect badly on the ... whatever you guys call yourselves. Orientation? Species? I have no clue.
If it's any consolation, you do reflect badly on Missouri. :)
You should see the rest of the state.
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
:lol:
:console: See? We really need you back.
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Btw is Driftwood still around or did you drop him years ago? I don't remember.
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Btw is Driftwood still around or did you drop him years ago? I don't remember.
Gone, but we live two blocks from each other and share a dog. :D
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Btw is Driftwood still around or did you drop him years ago? I don't remember.
Gone, but we live two blocks from each other and share a dog. :D
Tell me more of the dog.
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Gone, but we live two blocks from each other and share a dog. :D
Is that some kind of code? :hmm:
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Btw is Driftwood still around or did you drop him years ago? I don't remember.
Gone, but we live two blocks from each other and share a dog. :D
Tell me more of the dog.
:lol:
When Durwood and I broke up we alternated weeks for the late dear Brodie the totally Blind Basset Hound. Sadly early June Brodie entered mortality. :weep: :weep:
So in July I babysat Trigger, a Pointer-Daschund mix belonging to one of my staff. Durwood rescued Louis, a Basset-Pointer mix. Trigger and Louis became buds. When I gave back Trigger, Durwood asked if I wanted to co-own Louis Anton Frederich Maximilan Ignacious von Hesse-Darmstadt, and I said yes! :w00t: Pics to follow.
But I still really miss Brodie, great Dog. :(
Have you kept up with all the Dogs?
I'm sorry to hear about Brodie. I know you loved that dog.
But I find your timeshare with Louis a tepid and transparent excuse to still have sex with Durwood, and disapprove accordingly.
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 25, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 25, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
:bleeding: :bleeding:
Oh God.
Btw is Driftwood still around or did you drop him years ago? I don't remember.
Gone, but we live two blocks from each other and share a dog. :D
Tell me more of the dog.
:lol:
When Durwood and I broke up we alternated weeks for the late dear Brodie the totally Blind Basset Hound. Sadly early June Brodie entered mortality. :weep: :weep:
So in July I babysat Trigger, a Pointer-Daschund mix belonging to one of my staff. Durwood rescued Louis, a Basset-Pointer mix. Trigger and Louis became buds. When I gave back Trigger, Durwood asked if I wanted to co-own Louis Anton Frederich Maximilan Ignacious von Hesse-Darmstadt, and I said yes! :w00t: Pics to follow.
But I still really miss Brodie, great Dog. :(
Have you kept up with all the Dogs?
Not really. :(
Pics will be nice. :)
"Durwood" /snicker. Not as bad as "Wiktor" but still pretty funny.
First,
it's clear to me that Gators are, on the whole, fucktards...
eg 1
eg 2...the homo gator
whereas jesus delivered the good news to seminoles far and wide
Quote from: Rasputin on August 26, 2011, 09:09:05 AM
First,
it's clear to me that Gators are, on the whole, fucktards...
You're gonna hate it in 20 years when your state elects Tim Tebow governor.
so clearly if the noles can slip by oklahoma, who can stop them?
who i ask?
don't even get me started on the douche bags at uva...
this concludes my presentation
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 26, 2011, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Rasputin on August 26, 2011, 09:09:05 AM
First,
it's clear to me that Gators are, on the whole, fucktards...
You're gonna hate it in 20 years when your state elects Tim Tebow governor.
:weep:
Quote from: Rasputin on August 26, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
this concludes my presentation
Needs more PowerPoint.
all of my powerpoints are nsfw
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 26, 2011, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Rasputin on August 26, 2011, 09:09:05 AM
First,
it's clear to me that Gators are, on the whole, fucktards...
You're gonna hate it in 20 years when your state elects Tim Tebow governor.
Tim Tebow can be anything, but he can never be Burt Reynolds. Advantage: Noles.
how reynolds didnt get an oscar for his boogie nights performance remains a mystery to me
don't forget corso vs collingsworth
advantage noles
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 26, 2011, 06:02:19 AM
"Durwood" /snicker. Not as bad as "Wiktor" but still pretty funny.
I believe Durwood was a nom de plume...
Quote from: Rasputin on August 29, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
how reynolds didnt get an oscar for his boogie nights performance remains a mystery to me
don't forget corso vs collingsworth
advantage noles
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Advantage: Noles
gator groupies:
seminole groupies; I say advantage noles, but i'll leave that to the masses to decide:
Quote from: Rasputin on August 29, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
how reynolds didnt get an oscar for his boogie nights performance remains a mystery to me
:yes:
+ Mark Wahlberg for the same movie. :)
Seminoles:
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Gators:
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