What a bunch of dicks. :lol:
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/18/7409110-europes-highest-paid-politicians-cant-be-bothered-to-show-up
QuoteEurope's highest paid politicians can't be bothered to show up
By NBC News' Claudio Lavanga
The start of the debate in the Italian Senate over Berlusconi's new austerity budget on Wednesday was always meant to be a predictable affair. In fact, it barely made the news – even in Italy.
The $65 billion plan, scrapped together by a struggling Italian government in a desperate bid to balance the budget by 2013, is pivotal to the very future and stability not only of Italy but of Europe as a whole. The mix of tax increases and spending cuts was announced last week to satisfy the European Central Bank's demands that Italy do something to correct it's strained public finances.
So Italians are asking, why did only 11 out of 315 senators show up to discuss the measure on Wednesday evening? And why do just 0.016 percent of the proposed budget cuts apply to the political class itself?
Attendance was not mandatory, but the en-masse absenteeism is viewed as a direct insult to the Italians who will bear the brunt of the new austerity measures forced upon them by the very politicians who dared not to show up to discuss the measures.
(You don't have to understand Italian to get this fun tour of the empty Senate the day before the debate from Corriere della Sera. "Tutto chiuso" says it all).
The empty senate chamber could be seen as a symbol of what's wrong with the country, and cast some serious doubts over its chances of finding a political solution to an economic crisis that is threatening the existence of the euro and the stability of stock markets worldwide.
Summer time truancy
So what happened to the remaining 300-odd senators missing in action?
It is reasonable to suspect that most of them are still on vacation. It is the middle of August, a time when most of the country hits the beach; parliament, among other institutions, closes down for the summer.
There are surely plenty of excuses that might be offered up when the absent politicians roll back to town. Some might claim to have been on holiday at the Seychelles, and were so terrified by the shark that killed the honeymooner they could barely move. Others could claim to have taken an academic break in London, and to have fallen victim of the rioters who stole their plane ticket. A few could get away with one of the summer truancy classics: a bad sunburn, a nasty stingray sting, a water skiing accident.
Even though Wednesday was just the start of the debate over the plan and the vote will come later, very few, if any, will admit that they simply couldn't be bothered to leave the beach even for a day to perform their duty in one of the most difficult economic times the country is facing since the Second World War.
(Here is more video of the empty chamber "un Senato deserto").
Highest paid politicians in Europe
This attitude is symbolic of a privileged political class that has lost touch with its electorate and spends most of its time enjoying the benefit of being an Italian politician, without acting like one.
The numbers speak for themselves: At $20,000 per month, Italian members of parliament are the highest paid in Europe.
They earn twice as much as German politicians, to choose just one nearby country. In addition, they enjoy a long list of benefits from free, unlimited flights in business class within Italy to the use of state cars to a fine restaurant in the house of parliament that serves succulent beef steak for a mere 2 euros.
The overall Italian political system, including parliamentarians salaries, benefits and expenses, costs $33 billion a year, according to the country's main financial paper Il Sole 24 Ore.
The cost to the country, if politicians continue to act as spoilt and pampered upper-class with no sense of responsibility, could be much, much higher.
:lol:
Well to be fair, they kinda had these things decided for them from on high, so there's not much to debate about.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 18, 2011, 07:06:13 PM
The numbers speak for themselves: At $20,000 per month, Italian members of parliament are the highest paid in Europe.
:mad: Those are hard working middle class Italians.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 18, 2011, 07:06:13 PM
And why do just 0.016 percent of the proposed budget cuts apply to the political class itself?
Given that the political class consists of probably 0.005% of the population, they're paying at least their share.
Italian politicians are made of win. Look at this for example:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.economist.com%2Fimages%2Fna%2F2010w20%2F201020NAC476B.jpg&hash=b8bfc9ec4f777d3b30327e1a5368b6bebe35bcac)
That's not corruption and cronyism, that's protectionism. Other than the Italian government, who would be so foolish as to buy an Italian-made car?
Why would someone who's able to earn $20,000 per month waste his time on politics?
That's silly. If there are no elections approaching, MPs in Europe very rarely engage in a parliamentary debate or show up for non-voting sessions. :huh:
Quote from: Martinus on August 19, 2011, 01:42:53 AM
That's silly. If there are no elections approaching, MPs in Europe very rarely engage in a parliamentary debate or show up for non-voting sessions. :huh:
yeah, why would they? It's only their job.
Quote from: Iormlund on August 18, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Italian politicians are made of win. Look at this for example:
Are you sure that is right: the US is far larger than any of the countries mentioned, but seems roughly in line with the number of official cars in major countries of Europe (Italy excepted, of course)?
Quote from: alfred russel on August 19, 2011, 05:50:33 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on August 18, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Italian politicians are made of win. Look at this for example:
Are you sure that is right: the US is far larger than any of the countries mentioned, but seems roughly in line with the number of official cars in major countries of Europe (Italy excepted, of course)?
Yeah that does seem a bit odd. France has like 65 million people and the US has over 300 million. Maybe it's because cars are much more common in the US and they are less of a status symbol. Or perhaps France is simply more corrupt.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2011, 06:28:00 AM
Maybe it's because cars are much more common in the US and they are less of a status symbol.
:huh:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2011, 06:31:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2011, 06:28:00 AM
Maybe it's because cars are much more common in the US and they are less of a status symbol.
:huh:
Yeah. US politicians love getting black SUVs and drivers and bodyguards just as much as other politicians do.
20k a month? Geez, even our fat cats are capped at less than that (though several senators come in with extra incomes that moot the pay cap).
Quote from: alfred russel on August 19, 2011, 05:50:33 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on August 18, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Italian politicians are made of win. Look at this for example:
Are you sure that is right: the US is far larger than any of the countries mentioned, but seems roughly in line with the number of official cars in major countries of Europe (Italy excepted, of course)?
You'd have to as The Economist.
Quote from: Neil on August 18, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
That's not corruption and cronyism, that's protectionism. Other than the Italian government, who would be so foolish as to buy an Italian-made car?
lots of people like Ferrari.