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Title: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Berkut on July 23, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Basically a remake of Panzer General. I liked Panzer General.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Habbaku on July 23, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
Which game are you actually talking about?  Do you mean Matrix's Panzer Corps?
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Berkut on July 23, 2011, 11:23:53 PM
Errh, yeah.

http://www.slitherine.com/games/panzer_corps_pc
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Habbaku on July 23, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
Oh, good.  It has a Nazi invasion of the USA scenario.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: viper37 on July 24, 2011, 12:01:21 AM
Slitherine... the makers of Legion... hmm.  I'll wait.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 24, 2011, 12:38:14 AM
Wow.  It really does look like Panzer General II.  If I have to buy it through Matrix games, pass.  The last to orders I made through them they charged me double.  Had to fight with them both times to get my money back.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: 11B4V on July 24, 2011, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 23, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Basically a remake of Panzer General. I liked Panzer General.

Sorry, but no. Hated it.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Syt on July 24, 2011, 01:24:30 AM
There's an ongoin AAR on Wargamer:

http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=550254
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:30:57 PM
Seriously considering getting this.  Let us see if my will can hold out a few more days.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 27, 2011, 09:57:34 AM
Could not hold out, I ended up buying it.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Cecil on July 28, 2011, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 27, 2011, 09:57:34 AM
Could not hold out, I ended up buying it.

Good. We expect a full review and an AAR in no less than 5 days.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 30, 2011, 12:22:04 AM
Haven't played it much yet.  The game is kind of weird.  I like Beer and Pretzel games as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure what each unit is suppose to represent?  Regiments?  Divisions?  Corps?  Many Missions have a very large scale (like the whole of Germany), but not very many units.  I'm fairly certain the US didn't field divisions of Artillery, and Anti-tank guns.  It doesn't help that none of the units are named.  They are just given generic names like 45th Heavy Weapon Infantry or 63rd Battleship.  Perhaps this was the same with the original Panzer General (I don't recall), and I just knew less about what military units fought where. The library is a silly addition since it only has about a dozen entries for units, all tanks.  Some of the omissions are strange, like North Africa campaigns and the game lacks any desert tiles.  The maps are weird as well, due to the scale and some of the omissions there are strange.  It has Belleville Illinois but not St. Louis  The graphics are pretty, though.  Kind of reminds me of one of the Civ games.

Oh and playing the Overlord Scenario as the Germans the British capture Caen on the first turn. :lol:
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 30, 2011, 12:30:18 AM
Reminds a little of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxlBwLOkjOo  :D
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Slargos on July 30, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
2 weeks and still not out on torrent sites. We are not amused.  <_<
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 30, 2011, 04:16:06 PM
Perhaps I'm being a stickler for historical accuracy here, but I thought Operation Husky occurred before Operation Avalanche.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Slargos on July 30, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
Found it.  :ph34r:

As expected, this feels a lot like PzG I with an upgraded interface.

I just played through Poland, and much like PzG you need to keep a pretty brisk pace in order to get a major victory. What has changed, and which will affect tactics pretty decisively is that there's no longer free reinforcements after the battle so you'll have to spend prestige on reinforcements regardless if it's during the scenario or before deployment next scenario. This obviously means that it's no longer useful to keep understrength units behind the line, but rather they should be reinforced as convenient. It may also mean that there's no longer much of a point to capture every city for prestige as it may be more profitable to just bypass in order to keep casualties down.

Additionally, it seems like there's a lot more room for core units in this game, which implies that it's possible to use green reinforcements (which is free, save for the XP cost) for a mass army, or focus on a smaller elite cadre. Interesting implications for the strategy.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Slargos on July 30, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Actually, scratch that. It appears green replacements cost a minimal amount of prestige during the battle, but is free in the deployment phase.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Razgovory on July 30, 2011, 06:17:00 PM
You know what I like about you Slargos?  That fact you don't have any redeeming qualities.  A Nazi and a petty thief.  I don't have to nuance my thinking when it comes to you.
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Slargos on July 30, 2011, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 30, 2011, 06:17:00 PM
You know what I like about you Slargos?  That fact you don't have any redeeming qualities.  A Nazi and a petty thief.  I don't have to nuance my thinking when it comes to you.

Since you couldn't even if you had to, I don't see your point.  :hmm:
Title: Re: ANyone intrigued by Panzer Commander?
Post by: Slargos on July 31, 2011, 12:48:21 AM
Looks like they just reskinned the PzG maps.