http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/official-news-agency-says-iranian-scientist-assassinated-in-tehran/2011/07/23/gIQAXNp7UI_story.html
Another motorcycle drive-by shooting.
Stuxnet, several high-profile assassinations... someone really has it in for the Iranian nuclear program.
What a terrible shame. I'm surprised they haven't put everyone with nuclear experience in closed towns, Of course, that may be what the assassins want. If you force the Iranians to put all their people at a Los Alamos type place a few airstrikes can wipe them all out.
:Joos
Yaweh Bless The Mossad.
This is too much like murder. If you have a problem with Iran, you terror bomb its cities.
You kill too many hotties if you terror bomb them.
Quote from: Martinus on July 23, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
:Joos
Possibly, it could be lots of people. The US, the British, the Saudis... There are many who don't want to see Iran go nuclear.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 23, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 23, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
:Joos
Possibly, it could be lots of people. The US, the British, the Saudis... There are many who don't want to see Iran go nuclear.
I thought the US did not do assassinations these days.
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
Quote from: Jacob on July 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
If they did, you wouldn't. :shifty:
Quote from: Jacob on July 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
Well you wouldn't would you. :ph34r:
edit:one of their cleverest moves was to put 16-17 suicide hijackers on some aircraft and avoid any blame for the consequences. <_<
Quote from: Martinus on July 23, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
I thought the US did not do assassinations these days.
Not that we publicize at any rate.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 23, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 23, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
I thought the US did not do assassinations these days.
Not that we publicize at any rate.
Well, I thought Obama gave an order to stop any assassinations (or was it still Bush? I think it was reported). So I assume they would stick to it - otherwise, why give the order at all, since it's not like it is being publicized, as you say?
There's a post-Bay of Pigs presidential order to not assassinate any foreign head of government. Other than that I've never heard of any no assassination order. Last time I checked we were assassinating folks in Pakistan and Yemen by the car load.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 04:09:22 PM
You kill too many hotties if you terror bomb them.
Do you know how many potential AV idols died in 1945? Dear God, I might have to reevaluate my belief system. :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
There's a post-Bay of Pigs presidential order to not assassinate any foreign head of government. Other than that I've never heard of any no assassination order. Last time I checked we were assassinating folks in Pakistan and Yemen by the car load.
I guess if we ignore the meaning of the word "assassinate" that statement is true.
It could easily be more then one group. A joint UK-US action is not out of the question. Hell, it's not impossible that it's a joint Israeli-Saudi act. The Saudi government has secretly gotten closer to the Israeli government over the last decade. Iran has lots of enemies, and almost all of them are afraid of Iran getting nuclear weapons. It's likely a Mossad operation (the Stuxnet was probably an Israeli act and these assassinations are likely part of the same program), but campaign against Iranian nukes could involve several players. The Israelis though, are known to attack scientists in the employ of enemy powers. Who ever is doing this has a got a good ground team in Iran, and likely assets inside the nuclear program.
This assassination could have plenty benefits for who ever wants to slow or stop the Iranian nuclear program. Besides depriving the Iranians of skilled personal, it also inspires terror in the other scientists dissuading them from working on the project and could force the Iranians to centralize their effort making them more susceptible to an airstrike.
The killing of Iranian nuclear scientists seems to be being done compatently, which makes the Mossad the most likely suspect.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 23, 2011, 06:04:49 PM
It could easily be more then one group. A joint UK-US action is not out of the question. Hell, it's not impossible that it's a joint Israeli-Saudi act. The Saudi government has secretly gotten closer to the Israeli government over the last decade. Iran has lots of enemies, and almost all of them are afraid of Iran getting nuclear weapons. It's likely a Mossad operation (the Stuxnet was probably an Israeli act and these assassinations are likely part of the same program), but campaign against Iranian nukes could involve several players. The Israelis though, are known to attack scientists in the employ of enemy powers. Who ever is doing this has a got a good ground team in Iran, and likely assets inside the nuclear program.
This assassination could have plenty benefits for who ever wants to slow or stop the Iranian nuclear program. Besides depriving the Iranians of skilled personal, it also inspires terror in the other scientists dissuading them from working on the project and could force the Iranians to centralize their effort making them more susceptible to an airstrike.
If it was a joint US-UK action, wouldn't they kill each other in friendly fire instead?
A think a few men managed to survive Normandy.
The first choice was to send some Polish cavalry to charge the reactors, but transporting the horses proved problematic.
Quote from: mongers on July 23, 2011, 05:13:04 PM
one of their cleverest moves was to put 16-17 suicide hijackers on some aircraft and avoid any blame for the consequences. <_<
Boo. Hiss. Foul.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
A think a few men managed to survive Normandy.
The first choice was to send some Polish cavalry to charge the reactors, but transporting the horses proved problematic.
They put the horses on a boat, but the screen door on the bottom sprung a leak.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2011, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 23, 2011, 05:13:04 PM
one of their cleverest moves was to put 16-17 suicide hijackers on some aircraft and avoid any blame for the consequences. <_<
Boo. Hiss. Foul.
Yeah, but I was still playing the ball, not the man. :bowler:
Quote from: mongers on July 23, 2011, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
Well you wouldn't would you. :ph34r:
edit:
one of their cleverest moves was to put 16-17 suicide hijackers on some aircraft and avoid any blame for the consequences. <_<
So, if I were to have suggested, circa 2001, that the United States invade Saudi Arabia, the bike-riding vote in Britain would have been on board? :hmm:
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2011, 07:44:15 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 23, 2011, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
Well you wouldn't would you. :ph34r:
edit:
one of their cleverest moves was to put 16-17 suicide hijackers on some aircraft and avoid any blame for the consequences. <_<
So, if I were to have suggested, circa 2001, that the United States invade Saudi Arabia, the bike-riding vote in Britain would have been on board? :hmm:
:yes:
I think my hatred of the house of Saud is a matter of some record on this forum.
Quote from: mongers on July 23, 2011, 08:08:48 PM
I think my hatred of the house of Saud is a matter of some record on this forum.
Fine.
But if you go after the house of Pancakes, we got problems.
'Cause all I ever remember from 2001-2005 is people looking at me like I was crazy when I suggested it, is all.
If they pull a Tianenmen, we can finally bomb them, right?
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2011, 10:27:36 PM
'Cause all I ever remember from 2001-2005 is people looking at me like I was crazy when I suggested it, is all.
Well, the problem there is that a crazy person can still be right about somethings on occassion, but they're still crazy.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
There's a post-Bay of Pigs presidential order to not assassinate any foreign head of government. Other than that I've never heard of any no assassination order. Last time I checked we were assassinating folks in Pakistan and Yemen by the car load.
meh, semantics.
Quote from: Jacob on July 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Do the Saudis ever pull clever black ops? I can't recall ever hearing of any....
The 9/11
Something Siege and mongers agree on. I guess if you go far enough crazy right and craz left, the twain shall meet. :P
Damn, Siege was quick off the mark there! Razor sharp :lol:
Is nothing sacred anymore?