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Title: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 06:55:13 AM
To tell me how to say the following things in something like Latin (i.e. extrapolate what the Latin "would be"):
1. Computer terminal
2.  First Aid kit
3.  Locker
4.  Generator
5.  "Power down" (as a computer terminal command)
6.  "Ignite/ignition" (as a computer terminal command)
7.  "No power" (as a computer terminal message)

The latin has to be clear enough that a non-Latin-speaker can translate it; that's more important than any accuracy in Latin.  If one of the above simply cannot be translated into this faux Latin, that's okay.

This is for a FO3 mod that supposes an alternate world in which Rome survived and runs a parallel earth with about the same tech level as the world of Fallout 3.  The mod is "Quest for Heaven 3" if anyone cares.

Anyone want to take on this challenge?
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: chipwich on July 17, 2011, 06:56:31 AM
Why did they create a Rome Themed mod if no one on the team speaks latin?
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: chipwich on July 17, 2011, 06:56:31 AM
Why did they create a Rome Themed mod if no one on the team speaks latin?
It's not a Roman-themed mod.  It's a mod that has a moment where the player encounters the remnants of a modernized Roman civilization.  Basically, the player accidently gets stranded and needs to reactivate some equipment in this Roman parallel world to get back to the story of the mod.  Currently the game uses placeholders like "terminus" for "computer terminal" and the like.  I thought maybe someone here would enjoy coming up with something better.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Syt on July 17, 2011, 07:30:22 AM
Considering that language changes over time and that Latin as spoken during the Republic, the Imperial period, the Middle Ages etc. are somewhat different from one another (or so the professor in the Latin course I attended for the first few lessons said), I think you can get away with quite a bit and handwave it as "language changes". Maybe even have the character comment how different it is from the Latin he learned at school/in ye olden scriptures.

Google translator also offers Latin now.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:38:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2011, 07:30:22 AM
Considering that language changes over time and that Latin as spoken during the Republic, the Imperial period, the Middle Ages etc. are somewhat different from one another (or so the professor in the Latin course I attended for the first few lessons said), I think you can get away with quite a bit and handwave it as "language changes". Maybe even have the character comment how different it is from the Latin he learned at school/in ye olden scriptures.

Google translator also offers Latin now.
You guys are wayyyy over-thinking this.

Google translate gives "primum auxilium" for "first aid," which is too literal, which is why I started this thread. 
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
For first aid, I'm thinking of translating from the Russian (skoroe pomoshch) into the Latin- celer curatio (quick healing)
Computer- abacus mechanicus (mechanical abacus)
Locker- alveus ferrus (iron box)
Generator- fusus fulminis (lightning spindle)
power down- exfulmine
ignition- enfulmine
no power- difulmine
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 08:02:10 AM
QuoteYou guys are wayyyy over-thinking this.

Hi! Welcome to Languish.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
For first aid, I'm thinking of translating from the Russian (skoroe pomoshch) into the Latin- celer curatio (quick healing)
Computer- abacus mechanicus (mechanical abacus)
Locker- alveus ferrus (iron box)
Generator- fusus fulminis (lightning spindle)
power down- exfulmine
ignition- enfulmine
no power- difulmine
Thanks, Scip.  That's just what i was looking for.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Pishtaco on July 17, 2011, 10:46:14 AM
1. computatrum (for computer - I don't know what terminal would be)
2. auxilium primum - (aux. prim. ?)
3. depositorium - (or "capsa", which is better but probably harder to understand)
4. dynamon
5. occludere/extinguere
6. inflammare / incendere
7. Not sure about this.  "vis nulla" or "sine vi" might do, but do not sound like good Latin to me. "vis occlusa" - "the power (has been) shut off"?

There's some of this stuff on Latin wikipedia
http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computatrum
also
http://facweb.furman.edu/~dmorgan/lexicon/silva.htm
http://commons.wvc.edu/sberard/boreoccidentales/latin/Scitu%20Digna/Vocabulorum%20Computatralium.aspx
http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3t?dgdivhead=vis&dbname=lewisandshort



Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 06:55:13 AM
To tell me how to say the following things in something like Latin (i.e. extrapolate what the Latin "would be"):
1. Computer terminal
2.  First Aid kit
3.  Locker
4.  Generator
5.  "Power down" (as a computer terminal command)
6.  "Ignite/ignition" (as a computer terminal command)
7.  "No power" (as a computer terminal message)

The latin has to be clear enough that a non-Latin-speaker can translate it; that's more important than any accuracy in Latin.  If one of the above simply cannot be translated into this faux Latin, that's okay.

This is for a FO3 mod that supposes an alternate world in which Rome survived and runs a parallel earth with about the same tech level as the world of Fallout 3.  The mod is "Quest for Heaven 3" if anyone cares.

Anyone want to take on this challenge?
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
Quote from: Pishtaco on July 17, 2011, 10:46:14 AM
1. computatrum (for computer - I don't know what terminal would be)
2. auxilium primum - (aux. prim. ?)
3. depositorium - (or "capsa", which is better but probably harder to understand)
4. dynamon
5. occludere/extinguere
6. inflammare / incendere
7. Not sure about this.  "vis nulla" or "sine vi" might do, but do not sound like good Latin to me. "vis occlusa" - "the power (has been) shut off"?

There's some of this stuff on Latin wikipedia
http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computatrum
also
http://facweb.furman.edu/~dmorgan/lexicon/silva.htm
http://commons.wvc.edu/sberard/boreoccidentales/latin/Scitu%20Digna/Vocabulorum%20Computatralium.aspx
http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3t?dgdivhead=vis&dbname=lewisandshort



Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 06:55:13 AM
To tell me how to say the following things in something like Latin (i.e. extrapolate what the Latin "would be"):
1. Computer terminal
2.  First Aid kit
3.  Locker
4.  Generator
5.  "Power down" (as a computer terminal command)
6.  "Ignite/ignition" (as a computer terminal command)
7.  "No power" (as a computer terminal message)

The latin has to be clear enough that a non-Latin-speaker can translate it; that's more important than any accuracy in Latin.  If one of the above simply cannot be translated into this faux Latin, that's okay.

This is for a FO3 mod that supposes an alternate world in which Rome survived and runs a parallel earth with about the same tech level as the world of Fallout 3.  The mod is "Quest for Heaven 3" if anyone cares.

Anyone want to take on this challenge?
There you go, thinking like a classicist, when he needed a medieval mindset...
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
With respect to our Jesuit-educated counselor, who obviously has a better memory than I do, I would've gone with more translatable words for "power down" and "power on/ignition", like dormito and emergo. 

Quotehas to be clear enough that a non-Latin-speaker can translate it

To sleep, to rise.  They could figure that out.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
With respect to our Jesuit-educated counselor, who obviously has a better memory than I do, I would've gone with more translatable words for "power down" and "power on/ignition", like dormito and emergo. 

Quotehas to be clear enough that a non-Latin-speaker can translate it

To sleep, to rise.  They could figure that out.
I like those options.  Thanks.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: dps on July 18, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
Depostitorium seems better for foot locker, IMO.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Josquius on July 18, 2011, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2011, 07:30:22 AM
Considering that language changes over time and that Latin as spoken during the Republic, the Imperial period, the Middle Ages etc. are somewhat different from one another (or so the professor in the Latin course I attended for the first few lessons said), I think you can get away with quite a bit and handwave it as "language changes". Maybe even have the character comment how different it is from the Latin he learned at school/in ye olden scriptures.

Google translator also offers Latin now.
True.
Just look in an Italian dictionary.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: derspiess on August 01, 2011, 12:21:45 PM
I ran through the Old World Blues DLC over the weekend.  It has a buttload of side quests, though some of them consist of talking with one character & then walking over to a different part of the room & talking to another.  I think there are a couple plot holes and one of the quests is annoyingly repetitive, but of the three DLCs released so far this one is probably the best.

The new weapons & enemies are decent & the map (Big MT research compound) is wide open & huge.  Dialogue provides more back story to the main story and the other DLCs, and it continues to build up to your encounter with the other courier.

One odd thing though with all the DLCs is that you can access radio broadcasts from the other DLCs (no matter how far away or impertinent they are) but you can't access any broadcasts from the main area.  You get *some* music with the 'mysterious' broadcast that comes with Old World Blues, but I needz mah Radio New Vegas.
Title: Re: I need a Latin-speaking Fallout 3 fan...
Post by: Razgovory on August 01, 2011, 06:04:09 PM
You know, I never got around to finishing that game.