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Poll
Question: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Option 1: The Beastmaster votes: 0
Option 2: Blade Runner votes: 24
Option 3: Cat People votes: 0
Option 4: Conan the Barbarian votes: 5
Option 5: Creepshow votes: 0
Option 6: Dark Crystal votes: 1
Option 7: E.T. votes: 2
Option 8: Last Unicorn votes: 2
Option 9: Poltergeist votes: 0
Option 10: Quest for Fire votes: 0
Option 11: Star Trek II - Wrath of Khan votes: 4
Option 12: Swamp Thing votes: 0
Option 13: Sword and the Sorcerer votes: 0
Option 14: The Thing votes: 5
Option 15: Timerider votes: 0
Option 16: Tron votes: 0
Option 17: Other votes: 0
Title: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Syt on July 16, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
Focusing on the fantastical only - the full list of movies here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_in_film

1982 also had Rocky III, First Blood, Tootsie, Officer and Gentleman, Marathon Man, Gandhi,Firefox, Fitzcarraldo or 48 Hours.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2011, 09:51:09 AM
There are so many movies I loved as kid on that list, but the one I voted for was The Last Unicorn. Something about it just struck a cord with me back then.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Syt on July 16, 2011, 09:52:11 AM
I still can't watch that one without getting dewy eyes. :cry:
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 16, 2011, 09:58:11 AM
KHAAAAAAAAAN!
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: mongers on July 16, 2011, 10:17:53 AM
Toss up between 'Blade Runner', 'The Thing' and 'Conan' (great fun) , went for The Thing as it was the only one of those I saw in a cinema, great scary entertainment.  :)
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Josquius on July 16, 2011, 10:18:28 AM
No real stand out 'one of the best films ever!!!' there.
The Thing I guess.
I've never really liked Blade Runner. It deserves a lot of respect for the world it created and being pretty much the only western cyberpunk film worthy of the name but the film itself just doesn't do it for me. But then I tend not to like films with dark lighting.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Fate on July 16, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
Blade Runner, hands down. Conan at a far second.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Razgovory on July 16, 2011, 10:57:30 AM
Trying to decide on the best Trek film or the Thing (which I really liked).  Best part of the Thing:  When they shoot the Norwegians.  Actually the best part I thought was the somewhat creepy video of the Norwegian team finding the ship.  It felt realistic.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Razgovory on July 16, 2011, 11:08:25 AM
Incidentally The Thing is on Youtube.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2011, 11:12:43 AM
I can't choose.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2011, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2011, 09:51:09 AM
There are so many movies I loved as kid on that list, but the one I voted for was The Last Unicorn. Something about it just struck a cord with me back then.

The Red Bull scared me.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: dps on July 16, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2011, 10:57:30 AM
Best part of the Thing:  When they shoot the Norwegians. 

Think how much better it would've been if they'd shot some Swedes.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Barrister on July 16, 2011, 02:45:13 PM
Khaaaaaaaan!
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: LaCroix on July 16, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
missed bladerunner until after choosing the thing :(

hated, hated e.t. when i was younger. the alien unnerved me to no end, and all the daycares were obsessed with it
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2011, 02:50:04 PM
The Wrath of Khan and his Shiny Prosthetic Pectorals was awesome swashbuckling fun at the time but looks terribly dated now.  Bladerunner and The Thing do not.  Slight edge to to The Thing, as the Bladerunner has some slow moody parts that The Thing does not.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ideologue on July 16, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
The best film from that list is Blade Runner, despite its glaring flaws.

The Thing and Trek II are favorites, as well (although Khan is emphatically not the best of the six).
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Neil on July 16, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
This poll is bullshit.  How can you choose between Wrath of Khan, Conan and Blade Runner?  Tron, Last Unicorn and ET are also strong.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: LaCroix on July 16, 2011, 03:30:57 PM
as yi touched on, which sucks today when viewed through non-nostalgic glasses and which stood the test of time?
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
Is it the 1982 theatrical Blade Runner we're talking about?
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
Christ, saw most of those in the theater.  I'm old.


But E.T. takes it.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Of course; only this collection of social misfit alt-hist computards and Assburger's Syndrome videogamers would have Blade Runner in the lead.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
IMDB voters also have Blade Runner ahead of ET, Khan and The Thing(didn't bother checking the others).
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 16, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
IMDB voters also have Blade Runner ahead

I rest my case.  This generation is broken.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
Let's see, 1982 was a long time ago but to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:

Blade Runner
Cat People
Last Unicorn
Quest for Fire
Swamp Thing
Sword and the Sorcerer
The Thing
Timerider


I voted Dark Crystal  :blush:
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 06:08:07 PM
Blade Runner.

Although, only the Director's Cut really does, erm, cut it.

Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
Let's see, 1982 was a long time ago but to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:


I voted Dark Crystal  :blush:

See, this is why we don't take your opinions seriously around here.  You're culturally illiterate.  You're a waliking pop-culture lobotomy.  You and Timmay should have a pooh-fling contest.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 16, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
Now, would I take 1982 Sean Young tied up in my basement? maybe. maybe.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: mongers on July 16, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
Let's see, 1982 was a long time ago but to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:


I voted Dark Crystal  :blush:

See, this is why we don't take your opinions seriously around here.  You're culturally illiterate.  You're a waliking pop-culture lobotomy.  You and Timmay should have a pooh-fling contest.

If people are choosing the 'Dark Crystal', why isn't 'Krull' an option ?  :bowler:
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 16, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
Now, would I take 1982 Sean Young tied up in my basement? maybe. maybe.

Maybe? The fuck you wouldn't.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:13:37 PM
Bladerunner is the best by a bunch.  Every viewing of it shows you something you missed on a previous viewing. 

The Thing is better if we were just viewing this as traditional SF.  I don't ever feel the need to see it again, though.

Maybe one could argue that The Thing is the better "movie" and Bladerunner the better "film."  But for this poll, Bladerunner wins for me.

Compare
Quote"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've seen c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in the rain. Time to die."

with
Quote
Thing:  ROAAARRR
MacReady: Yeah, fuck you too!
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 16, 2011, 06:13:48 PM
Quote'Krull'
:bleeding:

The videogame wasn't that bad. I remember playing that fucker.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
Let's see, 1982 was a long time ago but to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:


I voted Dark Crystal  :blush:

See, this is why we don't take your opinions seriously around here.  You're culturally illiterate.  You're a waliking pop-culture lobotomy.  You and Timmay should have a pooh-fling contest.

At least I'm not on your list on Animetards.  I don't have the attention span to watch movies, if I sit still for 2 hours doing nothing I fall asleep.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 16, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
If people are choosing the 'Dark Crystal', why isn't 'Krull' an option ?  :bowler:

Krull rocked.  You Brits may be cinematically challenged overall, but you made a couple of decent movies back then. Dragonslayer, 1981.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:15:05 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:

Blade Runner
Cat People

Quest for Fire


The Thing

You, sir, are culturally bankrupt.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:16:07 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 16, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
Let's see, 1982 was a long time ago but to the best of my recollection I have NOT seen:


I voted Dark Crystal  :blush:

See, this is why we don't take your opinions seriously around here.  You're culturally illiterate.  You're a waliking pop-culture lobotomy.  You and Timmay should have a pooh-fling contest.

If people are choosing the 'Dark Crystal', why isn't 'Krull' an option ?  :bowler:

My whole family went to see that in the theater and my dad made us all walk out.  I didn't think it was that bad.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
At least I'm not on your list on Animetards.

Should you be?  Is there evidence out there I don't know about? THE CHAIRMAN IS ASKING YOU A QUESTION SIR
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
At least I'm not on your list on Animetards.  I don't have the attention span to watch movies, if I sit still for 2 hours doing nothing I fall asleep.
You won't sleep through The Thing or Cat People!  :lol:

Bladerunner and Quest for Fire, maybe so.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 16, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
At least I'm not on your list on Animetards.

Should you be?  Is there evidence out there I don't know about? THE CHAIRMAN IS ASKING YOU A QUESTION SIR

No sir.  I can't stand anime. 
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 16, 2011, 06:18:45 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Dragonslayer, 1981.

There is a good movie. First movie my parents let me go to by myself. Even remember the theater I saw it in.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 06:43:56 PM
I'm wondering if Seedy's a bit of a bumpkin who doesn't get Blade Runner's greatness. Maybe that's why he's never sharing his writing her.

[THE POLICE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. It is badly lit. The desk is oaken but with the marks of having been kicked at before. An almost cartoonish police commisioner sits at the desk. Enter an energetic young Irish-German-All-American detective in a short-sleeved shirt with a green tie ]
Police commisioner: Detective O'Money, how many times have you been here now? Just askin'. I am telling you now, I don't want to see you here again. Another complaint came in from Madame Tim's about you hasslin' people trying to watch cartoons.
Det. O'Money: Dammit, sir! Can't you see it? [stares deeply into camera]
Police commisioner: See what, detective? That you are out of order?
Det. O'Money: I'm out of order? You're out of order! Madame Tim's out of order! Cartoons are out of order! The world is out of order!
Police commisioner: [sinister smile] Detective! You are suspended without pay!
Det. O'Money: [throws his badge] I thought you meant business when you said you were going after the tards.
Police commisioner: I did. The Tards, the Irish mafia are still very much a threat.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 06:47:31 PM
The Thing.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 06:43:56 PMI'm wondering if Seedy's a bit of a bumpkin who doesn't get Blade Runner's greatness. Maybe that's why he's never sharing his writing her.

Douche, I love Blade Runner.  But, just like all the Stanley Kubrick ass-to-mouth worship around here, I'm not going to slather it up as TEH GREATEST FILM OF ALL TIME IN 1982 AND SPACE.

Especially not in the year both ET and Poltergeist came out in the same fucking summer.  Nigga, please.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ideologue on July 16, 2011, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Of course; only this collection of social misfit alt-hist computards and Assburger's Syndrome videogamers would have Blade Runner in the lead.

I did say it was flawed.  But it was shot like a motherfucker.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ideologue on July 16, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:49:24 PMEspecially not in the year both ET and Poltergeist came out in the same fucking summer.  Nigga, please.

Oh, wow.  Really?  ET?  Poltergeist?  For serious?
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 16, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:49:24 PMEspecially not in the year both ET and Poltergeist came out in the same fucking summer.  Nigga, please.

Oh, wow.  Really?  ET?  Poltergeist?  For serious?
That's what I don't get.  Only the nosebreathers would mention those two and leave the Thing out of the picture.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 16, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:49:24 PMEspecially not in the year both ET and Poltergeist came out in the same fucking summer.  Nigga, please.

Oh, wow.  Really?  ET?  Poltergeist?  For serious?
That's what I don't get.  Only the nosebreathers would mention those two and leave the Thing out of the picture.

Loved The Thing, too.  Wilford Brimley.  "You gotta be fucking kidding."  Murdered dogs. Scared the piss out of me.
It's just not as big as ET.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:59:39 PM
And if I were in true nosebreather form, I'd have voted for Cat People.  :P
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:02:49 PM
I liked ET, but I don't think it's aged as well as some of the others.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Loved The Thing, too.  Wilford Brimley.  "You gotta be fucking kidding."  Murdered dogs. Scared the piss out of me.
It's just not as big bad as ET.
Though I wasn't a little kid when E.T. came out, so I may have missed the "specialness." 

I thought it was a predictable snooze, though well-acted.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:59:39 PM
And if I were in true nosebreather form, I'd have voted for Cat People.  :P
Cat People is a fun flick.  Absurdly pretentious, but it created a genre.  Great music, too.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 06:49:24 PM

Especially not in the year both ET and Poltergeist came out in the same fucking summer.  Nigga, please.

While I agree that ET was something special and that Poltergeist was, well, for people that are special, there's something to be said for lasting appeal. Both ET and Poltergeist look dated and not in the how Peter O'Toole and Omar Sharif kinda look Arab in 1080p in "Lawrence of Arabia" dated. Blade Runner was a decent movie and is a decent movie still, despite being an adaption of a book that has absolutely no internal consistency and most likely was written on acid or during heavy withdrawal.

The rest? Don't care.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:07:28 PM
Created genre? help me out senor blue.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM

The rest? Don't care.
:ultra:
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
While I agree that ET was something special and that Poltergeist was, well, for people that are special, there's something to be said for lasting appeal. Both ET and Poltergeist look dated

You're the same kind of punk that thinks Casablanca is full of cliches.  YOU WERENT THERE BOY.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:54 PM
Fuck it, I'm changing my vote. Danton.  Fuck y'all.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 07:15:37 PM
Quote from: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:07:28 PM
Created genre? help me out senor blue.
The movie created the genre where the director gives the audience sex when they expect horror and horror when they expect sex. 

Though Liquid Sky kinda did that (plus humor) that same year, didn't it?  Maybe CP wasn't as visionary as I thought.  Still a fun movie, though. 
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:54 PM
Fuck it, I'm changing my vote. Danton.  Fuck y'all.
Fantastic?
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
While I agree that ET was something special and that Poltergeist was, well, for people that are special, there's something to be said for lasting appeal. Both ET and Poltergeist look dated
You're the same kind of punk that thinks Casablanca is full of cliches.  YOU WERENT THERE BOY.
I thought that Norg and you were of an age.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: mongers on July 16, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Damn, I'm going to have to watch 'The Thing' now, and it's one of those films thats sufficiently good that one wants to ration how many times one watches it, lest it loose it's lustre.   :(
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 07:15:37 PM
The movie created the genre where the director gives the audience sex when they expect horror and horror when they expect sex. 

Not unlike Slargos' dating life. [diceman]Oooooh![/diceman]
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 16, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Damn, I'm going to have to watch 'The Thing' now, and it's one of those films thats sufficiently good that one wants to ration how many times one watches it, lest it loose it's lustre.   :(

Watched it recently;  it still stands very, very well.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
While I agree that ET was something special and that Poltergeist was, well, for people that are special, there's something to be said for lasting appeal. Both ET and Poltergeist look dated
You're the same kind of punk that thinks Casablanca is full of cliches.  YOU WERENT THERE BOY.
I thought that Norg and you were of an age.
Seedy is a few years older, but...
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 16, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Damn, I'm going to have to watch 'The Thing' now, and it's one of those films thats sufficiently good that one wants to ration how many times one watches it, lest it loose it's lustre.   :(

Watched it recently;  it still stands very, very well.

Which pains me when i see the trailer for the "prequel"
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
Seedy is a few years older, but...

You, of all people here, disappoint me the most. You're knee deep in Hollywood Magick(tm) itself, and yet I am the lone vote for ET.

Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:32:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:09:54 PM
Fuck it, I'm changing my vote. Danton.  Fuck y'all.
Fantastic?

FANTASTIQUE!
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2011, 07:45:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 16, 2011, 07:02:49 PM
I liked ET, but I don't think it's aged as well as some of the others.

Agreed.  Plus Eatie pretending he's a stuffed toy, Eatie getting drunk, etc. are only hilarious the first four times or so.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Although Drew Barrymore still reigns as the cutest little ever in a movie.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on July 16, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
Seedy is a few years older, but...

You, of all people here, disappoint me the most. You're knee deep in Hollywood Magick(tm) itself, and yet I am the lone vote for ET.

As an adult it just doesn't hold up as well for me. :(
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: mongers on July 16, 2011, 10:11:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 16, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Damn, I'm going to have to watch 'The Thing' now, and it's one of those films thats sufficiently good that one wants to ration how many times one watches it, lest it loose it's lustre.   :(

Watched it recently;  it still stands very, very well.

Yep, just watched it, an excellent film.   :cool:
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Barrister on July 16, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
Why is Wrath of Khan not getting any love here people?

:ultra:

It has everything you could want in a "fantastic" movie.  Maybe Bladerunner is a better film, maybe ET is more popular, and undoubtedly The Thing is scarier, but if you like yourself some sci-fi and fantasy it's gotta be Khan.

It has:

-William Shatner, one of the greatest, hammiest actors of that generation
-Ricardo Montalban and his bare chest giving Shatner a run for his money
-"needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
-absolutely classic themes of the meaning of creation, the pursuit of revenge, and the agony of aging
-Moby Dick references a-plenty
-a surprisingly young, thin and attractive Kristie Ally
-and the classic Star Trek crew while they still looked believable as active military members
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: LaCroix on July 17, 2011, 12:08:14 AM
khan is for old people :P
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: katmai on July 17, 2011, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 16, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
Why is Wrath of Khan not getting any love here people?

:ultra:


Is tied for 2nd for me.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: The Brain on July 17, 2011, 01:06:56 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 16, 2011, 06:13:37 PM
Bladerunner is the best by a bunch.  Every viewing of it shows you something you missed on a previous viewing. 

The Thing is better if we were just viewing this as traditional SF.  I don't ever feel the need to see it again, though.

Maybe one could argue that The Thing is the better "movie" and Bladerunner the better "film."  But for this poll, Bladerunner wins for me.

Compare
Quote"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've seen c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in the rain. Time to die."

with
Quote
Thing:  ROAAARRR
MacReady: Yeah, fuck you too!

I like this The Thing quote:

Quote-Childs, what if we're wrong?
-Well then we're wrong!
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Barrister on July 17, 2011, 01:17:27 AM
Quote from: katmai on July 17, 2011, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 16, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
Why is Wrath of Khan not getting any love here people?

:ultra:


Is tied for 2nd for me.

Not good enough. <_<
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Syt on July 17, 2011, 01:27:10 AM
Speaking of which, this poll was inspired by SF-Debris' reopsting of their Star Trek II Review:
http://sfdebris.com/startrek/film2.asp

I actually like that guy's reviews a fair bit. His humour will not be everyone's cup of tea, but he is pretty good in analyzing movie/tv show plots IMO. He recently pulled a lot of his older reviews from YouTube and now re-releases them piecemeal, slightly edited, and with a few new reviews in between.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2011, 06:26:31 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2011, 01:27:10 AM
His humour will not be everyone's cup of tea,

You got that right.

I remember when I came home from the theater, and my sister told my Mom how I was crying a little when Spock died, and she was all like, "Don't worry, they'll figure out a way to bring him back."
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2011, 02:50:04 PM
The Wrath of Khan and his Shiny Prosthetic Pectorals was awesome swashbuckling fun at the time but looks terribly dated now.  Bladerunner and The Thing do not.  Slight edge to to The Thing, as the Bladerunner has some slow moody parts that The Thing does not.

I just watched Bladerunner last night (never seen it before  :blush: ) and yeah it quite holds up if you discount the fact that technological progress went into a different direction (we dont have video phone booths, we have mobiles,etc).
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:13:59 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
I just watched Bladerunner last night (never seen it before  :blush: ) and yeah it quite holds up if you discount the fact that technological progress went into a different direction (we dont have video phone booths, we have mobiles,etc).
Which version did you see?  There are five (!) versions that have been released.  The 117-minute version from 2007 is the best, IMO.  It is known as the "25th Anniversary Edition."
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 07:17:29 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:13:59 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
I just watched Bladerunner last night (never seen it before  :blush: ) and yeah it quite holds up if you discount the fact that technological progress went into a different direction (we dont have video phone booths, we have mobiles,etc).
Which version did you see?  There are five (!) versions that have been released.  The 117-minute version from 2007 is the best, IMO.  It is known as the "25th Anniversary Edition."

Polish 'Beet' Edition.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 07:20:03 AM
ET was crap.  ET remains crap.  Benevolent aliens are bullshit, unless they are Vulcans, and thus motivated by self-interest.

I voted for Khan, but it was a near thing.  On some other day, I may vote for BladeRunner.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:20:06 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 07:17:29 AM
Polish 'Beet' Edition.
The Polish title actually translates as "TaterRunner."
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 07:21:03 AM
And for the record, if we're talking 1982 releases, Khan kicks BladeRunner's ass all over the place.  The 1982 release of BladeRunner is a hot mess, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:33:54 AM
Khan was fun enough when it first came out, but had no legs (like all Star Trek movies).  I wouldn't turn on a TV to watch it today.

Conan had everything Khan had, plus better-looking chicks dressed in less.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:33:54 AM
Khan was fun enough when it first came out, but had no legs (like all Star Trek movies).  I wouldn't turn on a TV to watch it today.

Conan had everything Khan had, plus better-looking chicks dressed in less.
Nonsense.  Conan had only one scenery chewer- Khan was full of them.  Also, Khan had better music and better effects.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 17, 2011, 08:40:38 AM
Conan's music was much better.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Razgovory on July 17, 2011, 08:41:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2011, 02:50:04 PM
The Wrath of Khan and his Shiny Prosthetic Pectorals was awesome swashbuckling fun at the time but looks terribly dated now.  Bladerunner and The Thing do not.  Slight edge to to The Thing, as the Bladerunner has some slow moody parts that The Thing does not.

I just watched Bladerunner last night (never seen it before  :blush: ) and yeah it quite holds up if you discount the fact that technological progress went into a different direction (we dont have video phone booths, we have mobiles,etc).

I think they did have those, for a short period of time.  Wasn't successful.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
Also, Khan had better music and better effects.
Disagree about the music, agree about the effects.  Khan's weren't good enough to be an asset, while Conan's were bad enough to be an asset.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 07:13:59 AM
Which version did you see?  There are five (!) versions that have been released.  The 117-minute version from 2007 is the best, IMO.  It is known as the "25th Anniversary Edition."
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Director's cut.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 10:22:16 AM
Director's cut.
That's a good version, though the director (Scott) didn't like it because it wasn't actually done by him.  :lol:

IIRC, the DC still left out most of the evidence that Decker himself was a replicant.  The girl was a replicant in the DC, wasn't she?

I do recall that the DC got rid of the voiceovers.  That was important.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ideologue on July 17, 2011, 01:32:24 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2011, 01:27:10 AM
Speaking of which, this poll was inspired by SF-Debris' reopsting of their Star Trek II Review:
http://sfdebris.com/startrek/film2.asp

I actually like that guy's reviews a fair bit. His humour will not be everyone's cup of tea, but he is pretty good in analyzing movie/tv show plots IMO. He recently pulled a lot of his older reviews from YouTube and now re-releases them piecemeal, slightly edited, and with a few new reviews in between.

Yeah, SF Debris's good people.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Mr.Penguin on July 17, 2011, 02:59:43 PM
Bladerunner gets my vote. No surprise there, dystopia settings has always been my thing...

http://youtu.be/LuBToeQeeEU (http://youtu.be/LuBToeQeeEU)

A part from the "tears in rain" monologue, have I always liked Gaff's in the end:

"you have done a man's job, sir"

and

"it's too bad she won't live, but then again, who does"

Brilliant... :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: The Brain on July 17, 2011, 03:39:05 PM
Edward James Olmos is great.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
Unlike many other movies on the list, Blade Runner is a good movie in a sci fi setting, not just a good sci fi movie (also, it is essentially a noir criminal in sci setting :P).
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: The Brain on July 17, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
Unlike many other movies on the list, Blade Runner is a good movie in a sci fi setting, not just a good sci fi movie (also, it is essentially a noir criminal in sci setting :P).

What the fuck do you know you only just saw it.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 10:22:16 AM
Director's cut.
That's a good version, though the director (Scott) didn't like it because it wasn't actually done by him.  :lol:

IIRC, the DC still left out most of the evidence that Decker himself was a replicant.  The girl was a replicant in the DC, wasn't she?

I do recall that the DC got rid of the voiceovers.  That was important.

Well, to me it was pretty clear both of them were replicants, even if it was not expressly said so with regard to Decker. Both how he handled fighting replicants, his relationship with his boss and some convos with the girl made me think he is almost certainly one.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Iormlund on July 17, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
But E.T. takes it.

E.T.? :yuk:

That was the first film I walked out of. I was like 6 at the time.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2011, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on July 17, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
But E.T. takes it.

E.T.? :yuk:

That was the first film I walked out of. I was like 6 at the time.

You Euros can't stand anything even remotely related to happiness or positivity, can you?  You're a continent of Oscar the Grouches.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Iormlund on July 17, 2011, 04:27:20 PM
Funny you say that. I found it depressing.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
They just can't enjoy Resse's Pieces.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2011, 07:10:45 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 03:45:56 PM
Well, to me it was pretty clear both of them were replicants, even if it was not expressly said so with regard to Decker. Both how he handled fighting replicants, his relationship with his boss and some convos with the girl made me think he is almost certainly one.

:huh: How he handled fighting replicants was by blasting a hole in them with his blaster.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 17, 2011, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
They just can't enjoy Resse's Pieces.

That is why Ide can never obtain Pure Euro Ball-of-enlightenment.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: dps on July 17, 2011, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Scipio on July 17, 2011, 07:20:03 AM
ET was crap.  ET remains crap.

I wouldn't go that far, but I do think it's quite over-rated.

Quote from: grumblerIIRC, the DC still left out most of the evidence that Decker himself was a replicant.  The girl was a replicant in the DC, wasn't she?

Wasn't the girl (I assume you mean the Sean Young character) a replicant in all of the versions?


Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Ideologue on July 17, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 17, 2011, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
They just can't enjoy Resse's Pieces.

That is why Ide can never obtain Pure Euro Ball-of-enlightenment.

In Heaven, there are no hard-shelled peanut butter, chocolate candies. :(
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: 11B4V on July 17, 2011, 10:27:36 PM
Blade Runner

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

What's not to like.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2011, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: dps on July 17, 2011, 09:49:16 PM
Wasn't the girl (I assume you mean the Sean Young character) a replicant in all of the versions?

Yes.  In some versions she was going to croak early, in some late.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 17, 2011, 11:41:08 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 17, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 17, 2011, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
They just can't enjoy Resse's Pieces.

That is why Ide can never obtain Pure Euro Ball-of-enlightenment.

In Heaven, there are no hard-shelled peanut butter, chocolate candies. :(

For good reason!
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Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Queequeg on July 18, 2011, 12:35:36 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2011, 07:10:45 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2011, 03:45:56 PM
Well, to me it was pretty clear both of them were replicants, even if it was not expressly said so with regard to Decker. Both how he handled fighting replicants, his relationship with his boss and some convos with the girl made me think he is almost certainly one.

:huh: How he handled fighting replicants was by blasting a hole in them with his blaster.
He's able to take a punch from a guy who, IIRC, made a pretty big whole in the side of a truck with his bare hands.  Maybe he was holding back on Deckard, but not on the truck, but I remember being puzzled by how he could withstand this much punishment the first time I saw Blade Runner.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: Pedrito on July 18, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
Blade Runner original version defined a lot of my early moviewatching. I loved the voiceovers, which were shamefully taken off the Directors' Cut, and loved the setting, the lighting, cinematography and acting.
DC was very good, too, almost better than the original.

L.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: grumbler on July 18, 2011, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on July 18, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
I loved the voiceovers, which were shamefully taken off the Directors' Cut...
You were pretty much the only one.  Harrison Ford tried to get out of going back to the studio to do them, and, of course, they weren't part of Ridley Scott's plan for the movie.  I thought that they were cheesy and way too derivative of Dragnet, the old cop show.  The movie was much better without them.
Title: Re: Best Fantastic Movie of 1982?
Post by: crazy canuck on July 18, 2011, 12:08:34 PM
A lot of great movies that year.  Hard to choose.