I installed this the other day. Framerates are terrible :( My comp is only 2 years old, wtf.
Also, how the hell do you make money, and why does constructing ANYTHING take so long.
No idea why your framerates are terrible. My machine is way older than yours and I play it without much of a problem, albeit with the graphics set relatively low.
Making money is easy. First, figure out what natural resources you have (timber, ore, farmland) and start building some manual labor buildings. Farms are great for starting cash but you have to be patient for them to work and build a few of the more expensive sorts. After you have a decent amount saved up, start building factories that will take advantage of whatever resource you're cranking out (though you'll need highschool grads to man the factories) and you'll start to roll in the dough. After that...it's all about diversification and expanding what you already have. Keep in mind that metals eventually run out, so only use mines and oil for short-term cash to build permanent earners.
As for construction, I almost always build a second construction site immediately and a third later on. You should also make sure you always have garages around the island as that will greatly speed up travel time for the builders.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 16, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
Also, how the hell do you make money, and why does constructing ANYTHING take so long.
Have you ever seen a Jamaican hurry to work?
L.
omg raciss :mad:
Quote from: Slargos on June 17, 2011, 03:55:31 AM
omg raciss :mad:
5 minutes 42 seconds.
Too much time to react, Slargie.
L.
What ever happened to Tropico 2?
Quote from: Liep on June 17, 2011, 04:15:45 AM
What ever happened to Tropico 2?
I believe it was set in a pirate world or something like that.
Yeah, I heard that it sucked.
Quote from: Caliga on June 17, 2011, 06:53:25 AM
Yeah, I heard that it sucked.
Which is incredible, because going from playing mud people in a completely undeveloped country whose main exports is pig manure and prostitutes, to playing Pirates must be almost impossible to fail at.
IIRC, a bunch of cash crop farms like tobacco will give you a steady export income. Get a cigar factory up or rum distillery and you'll roll in the cash.
Unless they patched that out.
And yes, the pirate version sucks. BORING.
Tropico 2 was alright, not as good as the first one, totally different, but decent in its own way.
3 was pretty good too though....I dunno, the scale is just wrong, doesn't feel like you're actually running a country. Or even a city.
Tropico 4 is due soon....
Tropicans can be frustratingly illogical sometimes. Once I had to have 5 presidential candidates shot before I went up against a candidate I could beat. Do they really think that having me spend money on assassins would make it easier for me to improve their living standards? Why can't they just declare their loyalty to me and let me spend my money on the industry that would give them jobs?
Every year or two I look at the faction data, and any faction that doesn't like me finds its leader having an unfortunate accident. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 17, 2011, 09:15:40 AM
Every year or two I look at the faction data, and any faction that doesn't like me finds its leader having an unfortunate accident. :)
Sometimes I eliminate entire factions, if they're small and implacable. I also regularly go through the ranks of soldiers and generals, and make sure that traitors that wouldn't vote for me don't stick around. I can't always kill them, you need money for that, but I can fire them. Coups are much more dangerous than rebellions.
Quote from: Tyr on June 17, 2011, 07:50:15 AM
Tropico 4 is due soon....
When one of the advertised features is Facebook/Twitter integration you know it's not going to be good.
Quote from: Liep on June 17, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 17, 2011, 07:50:15 AM
Tropico 4 is due soon....
When one of the advertised features is Facebook/Twitter integration you know it's not going to be good.
FM 2011. :secret:
This game sounds like fun. :hmm:
Twice I have started playing, aiming for a Sendero Luminoso/Khmer Rouge land of peasants. But I just can't find the energy to continue.
Quote from: Slargos on June 19, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
This game sounds like fun. :hmm:
You can name your self The White King and eliminate your mud people citizens at a whim.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 19, 2011, 03:40:49 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 19, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
This game sounds like fun. :hmm:
You can name your self The White King and eliminate your mud people citizens at a whim.
Sold! :w00t:
:lol:
Quote from: The Brain on June 19, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Twice I have started playing, aiming for a Sendero Luminoso/Khmer Rouge land of peasants. But I just can't find the energy to continue.
Yeah, same here. It's just not enough fun.
I found the first Tropico (with the expansion) to be more fun than the third game.
It's almost prehistoric in presentation, but I like it more, just like I prefer my beloved Railroad Tycoon 2 to the rather bland third installment.
L.
I played through Tropico 3 on the 360 & thought it was pretty decent once I made my peace with how clumsy the interface was. Tobacco seemed to be the key starting out, but I tended to make as much money from tourism, depending on the island.
Not sure how much farther they can go with Tropico 4, save for maybe making the different factions behave more realistically. I always thought it was odd in Tropico 3 how I was about as right-wing & pro-US as you could get, yet the communists loved me because I had plenty of housing & food.
Really?
Farming was never a big deal for me, it was mines all the way. Feeding the people with fish.
Quote from: Tyr on June 21, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
Farming was never a big deal for me, it was mines all the way.
^_^
Mines run out, farms don't. We're not talking about eating crop farms, we're talking about cash crop farms. The tobacco production chain was indeed a very lucrative one.
Generally though the scenario tended to finish by the time the minerals ran out. Either that or it was well on its way to completion and I had a full industrial/tourist economy up and running.
Quote from: Tyr on June 21, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Generally though the scenario tended to finish by the time the minerals ran out. Either that or it was well on its way to completion and I had a full industrial/tourist economy up and running.
I always ran out of minerals well before the scenario ended. But I guess I was maybe a little OCD about keeping production as high as it could go.
I never seem to get much done with tourism on my islands. By the time I'm ready to start the tourism industry up, the urban sprawl from my industry and tenements means there's no pristine, tourist-friendly areas left.
Quote from: The Brain on June 19, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Twice I have started playing, aiming for a Sendero Luminoso/Khmer Rouge land of peasants. But I just can't find the energy to continue.
For the 360 there is an achievement called "Iron Fist" where you have to pretty much do that to earn it.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 02, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
I never seem to get much done with tourism on my islands. By the time I'm ready to start the tourism industry up, the urban sprawl from my industry and tenements means there's no pristine, tourist-friendly areas left.
Some islands are better for it than others. I always leave beach property open for hotels, tourist attractions, etc. The thing I always had trouble with was getting someone to work at the pyramid ruins-- either they'd leave shortly after they filled the position or the job would just stay empty the whole game. I even built them a nice house nearby & made sure there were other accessible amenities-- no dice.
Rather than making a new thread I thought I would say this here.
Tropico 4= pretty much just Tropico 3.5
Not much new at all. The interface is different, graphics shinier, a few new buildings and missions are different but otherwise....its so darn similar.
Tropico 3 was basically just Tropico 1 (2011 edition).
I played a grand total of 2 hours of Tropico 3. Money well spent :glare:
Quote from: Zoupa on September 01, 2011, 11:46:00 PM
I played a grand total of 2 hours of Tropico 3. Money well spent :glare:
Wow, you played through the campaign three times? :o
If I were to spend my well earned Quatloos which would should I get. Tropico 3 or Tropico 4?
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
If I were to spend my well earned Quatloos which would should I get. Tropico 3 or Tropico 4?
I haven't played either, but from reviews and talk-on-the-street T4 isn't anything more than a T3 with upgraded graphics and textures and T3 isn't much more than the original Tropico with upgraded graphics and textures. Anyone whose opinion I trust says the first game is still the best and likely very much cheaper than either of the remasters. If you want one of the new ones I suppose you need to decide which is more important: shiny graphics or shiny coins in your pocket.
Tropico 3 is, like, $5 or something these days on Steam and very much worth getting. I can't vouch for 4 yet, but the extra features do look like they fix some issues I had with 3. Being able to actually import goods is potentially very huge.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 12, 2011, 12:03:01 AM
Tropico 3 is, like, $5 or something these days on Steam and very much worth getting. I can't vouch for 4 yet, but the extra features do look like they fix some issues I had with 3. Being able to actually import goods is potentially very huge.
Except that the people's republic already provides for the proletariat.
3 improves on the first one quite a bit, the 3D view is more than just prettines, it makes placing buildings in the game better too. Combined with the bigger islands its a huge improvement, no longer are you quite so pressed for space.
4....it does improve on 3 but not be $20 or however much more it is worth. Especially if you're taking 3 with its addon.