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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/05/26/serbia.mladic/index.html?hpt=T2
Bosnia genocide suspect Ratko Mladic arrested in Serbia
(CNN) -- Ratko Mladic, the former Serbian military commander accused of genocide in the bloodiest war fought in Europe since World War II, was arrested Thursday after more than 15 years in hiding, Serbia's president announced.
Mladic was the highest-ranking war crimes suspect to remain at large from the wars that accompanied the breakup of Yugoslavia in the 1990s. His arrest in Serbia followed a three-year investigation, President Boris Tadic said in a dramatic and hastily announced news conference in Belgrade.
Tadic refused to give more details about the operation.
Mladic, 69, is charged with genocide, extermination and murder, among others counts, by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. The tribunal has accused him of "direct involvement" in the killings of nearly 8,000 men and boys in the Bosnian Muslim enclave of Srebrenica, Europe's worst massacre since the Holocaust.
The onetime Bosnian Serb commander stands accused of "ethnic cleansing," widespread killing, forcible deportations, torture, forced labor and physical, psychological and sexual violence against Bosnian Muslims between 1992 and 1995. But he remains a hero to some of his former soldiers, said David Owen, a former European Union envoy to Yugoslavia, suggesting that his supporters had sheltered him in Serbia.
Tadic said Serbia continues to probe "who aided and abetted Mladic ... and those people will face justice."
"All war criminals must face justice," Tadic said.
The international police agency Interpol praised the arrest as "a triumph for international justice." Interpol officials had met with Tadic in January to discuss closer cooperation in the hunt for war crimes suspects, the organization's secretary-general, Ronald Noble, said in a statement on Mladic's capture.
"After today's arrest, no one should doubt Serbia's commitment to the rule of law and justice," Noble said.
And French President Nicolas Sarkozy called the move "a very brave decision" by Tadic, whose nation is seeking membership in the European Union.
"Serbia is a country which has suffered a lot," Sarkozy said while hosting the Group of Eight economic summit in Deauville. "But by the fact that it is handing over the one who is suspected of humanitarian crimes, it is great news."
Tadic said the arrest will help the process of reconciliation throughout the Balkans and should pave the way for Serbia's entry into the EU. James Ker-Lindsay, a senior research fellow at the London School of Economics and Political Science, called Thursday "an incredibly important day for Serbia."
"Ratko Mladic was the person to get hold of. This totally transforms Serbian prospects for getting into the European Union," he said.
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton hailed the arrest as a victory for "the rule of law in Serbia" and praised Tadic and his government for "this courageous action."
Ashton called for the quick transfer of the suspect to the Netherlands for trial. But Tadic declined to say how long the extradition would take, explaining it was not up to him.
Mladic had been on the run since the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina ended in 1995. The Croatian newspaper Jutarnji List was the first to report his arrest, saying that police were doing DNA tests on a suspect to determine whether he was the notorious former commander.
Mladic was the last fugitive from a triumvirate of Serbian leaders accused of genocide against Muslims and Croats as the three populations fought a brutal war over Yugoslav territory.
Former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic was toppled in 2000 and sent to face charges in The Hague. He died in 2006 while the trial was still going on.
Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic was arrested in July 2008 and is now on trial in The Hague.
Karadzic was removed from power under the Dayton Peace accords that ended three years of brutal fighting. He went into hiding, grew a full white beard and long hair, and was working in an alternative medicine clinic in Belgrade -- right under the noses of authorities -- when he was captured.
Karadzic has insisted on defending himself at The Hague. Prosecutors accuse him of deliberately obstructing the trial with delaying tactics, and judges have threatened to impose a defense lawyer on him if he does not cooperate.
The 1992-95 Bosnian war was the longest of the conflicts spawned by the breakup of Yugoslavia in the early 1990s. Backed by the Milosevic government, Bosnian Serb forces seized control of more than half the country and launched a campaign against the Muslim and Croat populations.
The United Nations declared Srebrenica to be a safe haven, and tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims flooded in, expecting protection. But a small contingent of Dutch U.N. peacekeepers, lightly armed and aware that no reinforcements were coming, stood aside and allowed Mladic's troops to overrun Srebrenica, leading to the slaughter.
NATO intervened in the conflict, bombing Bosnian Serb military positions. The United States brought the leaders of the warring factions to an agreement in Dayton, Ohio, in 1995, bringing the violence to an end.
I look forward to a long and tortuous trial followed by imprisonment in a luxury house in Sweden.
Quote from: Warspite on May 26, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
I look forward to a long and tortuous trial followed by imprisonment in a luxury house in Sweden.
He should be sentenced to death by trial like Slobodan.
Good thing the trial is going to be in Netherlands. There are going to be plenty of people nearby who were observing the genocide.
As much as I appreciate the Serbian gesture of acting upon intelligence they have most likely been sitting on since, well, 16 years ago, I somehow doubt Mladic will get his just desserts (Spotted Dick) and rather get unjust desserts (ice cream and warm forest berries).
EU: Serbia, you can't get in unless you get Mladic.
15 minutes pass
Serbia: Hey, guys, we caught Mladic, can we get in to the EU?
hmmm.... Serbia looks like Pakistan, only more cooperative.
Quote from: Viking on May 26, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
EU: Serbia, you can't get in unless you get Mladic.
15 minutes pass
Serbia: Hey, guys, we caught Mladic, can we get in to the EU?
hmmm.... Serbia looks like Pakistan, only more cooperative.
lol yes
still, imprisoning genocidal Serbs (or any Serb, as a matter of fact) worth a lot
Quote from: Viking on May 26, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
EU: Serbia, you can't get in unless you get Mladic.
15 minutes pass
Serbia: Hey, guys, we caught Mladic, can we get in to the EU?
hmmm.... Serbia looks like Pakistan, only more cooperative.
:lol:
I thought the same.
A sad day for justice. :(
Quote from: Tamas on May 26, 2011, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 26, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
hmmm.... Serbia looks like Pakistan, only more cooperative.
lol yes
still, imprisoning genocidal Serbs (or any Serb, as a matter of fact) worth a lot
All Serbs already live in a prison. It's called Serbia.
Quote from: Habbaku on May 26, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 26, 2011, 01:42:32 PM
All Serbs already live in a prison. It's called Serbia.
Oh, I am pretty sure the fact that all Serbs don't or didn't live there was one of the reasons Mladic worked his disappearing Bosniak magic trick.
Quote from: Norgy on May 26, 2011, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 26, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 26, 2011, 01:42:32 PM
All Serbs already live in a prison. It's called Serbia.
Oh, I am pretty sure the fact that all Serbs don't or didn't live there was one of the reasons Mladic worked his disappearing Bosniak magic trick.
Can a guy be more 90s? :zzz
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 01:55:19 PM
A sad day for justice. :(
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
Quote from: Jacob on May 26, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 01:55:19 PM
A sad day for justice. :(
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
Don't be so crass.
The Croats are a deceitful race and have always been the enemies of the Swedes. Their alliance with the Muslims only serves to further damn them.
The Serbs may be Slavs, but in a race where there are only filthy, vermin-riddled horses, you need to find the one with the least infection.
Quote from: Jacob on May 26, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
His disdain for Serbs in particular is outweighed by his general admiration for the principle of atrocities in the service of ethnic cleansing.
EDIT: I see he already posted in agreement.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 26, 2011, 03:45:52 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 26, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
His disdain for Serbs in particular is outweighed by his general admiration for the principle of atrocities in the service of ethnic cleansing.
EDIT: I see he already posted in agreement.
It also works in the favour of your people. :hug:
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 26, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 01:55:19 PM
A sad day for justice. :(
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
Don't be so crass.
The Croats are a deceitful race and have always been the enemies of the Swedes. Their alliance with the Muslims only serves to further damn them.
The Serbs may be Slavs, but in a race where there are only filthy, vermin-riddled horses, you need to find the one with the least infection.
I thought Swedes allied with the Muslims.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 26, 2011, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 26, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 26, 2011, 01:55:19 PM
A sad day for justice. :(
I'd thought you supported the Croats over the Serbs?
Don't be so crass.
The Croats are a deceitful race and have always been the enemies of the Swedes. Their alliance with the Muslims only serves to further damn them.
The Serbs may be Slavs, but in a race where there are only filthy, vermin-riddled horses, you need to find the one with the least infection.
I thought Swedes allied with the Muslims.
And how did that turn out for them? :hmm:
Goddamned shame there were no Swedes on trial at Nuremberg.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2011, 06:13:43 AM
Goddamned shame there were no Swedes on trial at Nuremberg.
Nah. They were typically murdered without even a sham trial. Right up your alley.
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2011, 06:37:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2011, 06:13:43 AM
Goddamned shame there were no Swedes on trial at Nuremberg.
Nah. They were typically murdered without even a sham trial. Right up your alley.
Good. Ball-bearing selling motherfuckers.
They should have done what the Americans do. Fuck trials. They shoudl have gone in and shot him. End of story.
Quote from: Josephus on May 27, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
They should have done what the Americans do. Fuck trials. They shoudl have gone in and shot him. End of story.
He was shot trying to escape!
Mladic could also have been shot trying to escape.
Quote from: Josephus on May 27, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
They should have done what the Americans do. Fuck trials. They shoudl have gone in and shot him. End of story.
Are we still talking about Slargos or have you moved back to Mladic.
Either works for me btw,
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2011, 01:25:44 AM
And how did that turn out for them? :hmm:
Became dull cabinet Nazis.
Quote from: Gups on May 27, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 27, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
They should have done what the Americans do. Fuck trials. They shoudl have gone in and shot him. End of story.
Are we still talking about Slargos or have you moved back to Mladic.
Either works for me btw,
I would be happy if you died after weeks-long torture. :)
In the wake of this news I spent some time reading up on the Srebrenica massacre (feels like eons since it happened). Even if only half of the accounts are true, that's some pretty disturbing shit.
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2011, 09:37:13 AMI would be happy if you died after weeks-long torture. :)
You lie. You will never be happy. Your misanthropy is an expression of the own self-loathing that makes happiness impossible for you.
Quote from: Jacob on May 27, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2011, 09:37:13 AMI would be happy if you died after weeks-long torture. :)
You lie. You will never be happy. Your misanthropy is an expression of the own self-loathing that makes happiness impossible for you.
Poor Slargos. :(
Quote from: Jacob on May 27, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2011, 09:37:13 AMI would be happy if you died after weeks-long torture. :)
You lie. You will never be happy. Your misanthropy is an expression of the own self-loathing that makes happiness impossible for you.
Incorrect. If you died by savage rape by several large negro men, I would briefly smile before returning to my usual shenanigans.
Quote from: Slargos on May 28, 2011, 01:04:21 AMIncorrect. If you died by savage rape by several large negro men, I would briefly smile before returning to my usual shenanigans.
Exactly.
You'd experience a brief and shallow respite from your misery through gloating before realizing that you're still who you are and everyone, including yourself, finds you loathsome (unless, of course, they have no idea what you're really like, but living a lie wears a man down).
If you want to escape you'll have to 1: realize you're a total dick; 2: accept that that's not a good thing; 3: try to change and become a decent human being.
:lol:
You're an obnoxious twat, Jacob.
Back on topic though, this guy gets what he deserves. Sic semper Serbs.
Good, he deserves a short drop with a quick stop, but death by boredom before the ICC is good enough.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110529/ap_on_re_eu/eu_serbia_mladic
Stay classy, Serbia. :rolleyes:
QuoteClashes erupt in Belgrade to protest Mladic arrest
Protesters throwing stones and bottles clashed with baton-wielding riot police Sunday in Belgrade after several thousand Serbian nationalist supporters of jailed war-crimes suspect Ratko Mladic rallied outside the parliament building to demand his release.
Rioters overturned garbage containers, broke traffic lights and set off firecrackers as they rampaged through downtown. Cordons of riot police tried to block their advances, and skirmishes took place in several locations in the center of the capital. There were no immediate reports of injuries or arrests.
The clashes began after a rally that drew at least 7,000 demonstrators, many singing nationalist songs and carrying banners honoring Mladic, the former Bosnian Serb military commander. Some chanted right-wing slogans and a few gave Nazi salutes.
The demonstrators, who consider Mladic a hero, said Serbia should not hand him over to the U.N. war crimes court in The Hague, Netherlands.
"Cooperation with The Hague tribunal represents treason," Serbian Radical Party official Lidija Vukicevic told the crowd. "This is a protest against the shameful arrest of the Serbian hero."
Demonstrators demanded the ouster of Serbia's pro-Western President Boris Tadic, who ordered Mladic's arrest. A sign on the stage read, "Tadic is not Serbia."
More than 3,000 riot police were deployed around government buildings and Western embassies, fearing that the demonstration could turn violent. Riot police tried to block small groups of extremists from reaching the rally.
Supporters of the extreme nationalist Radical Party were bused in to attend the rally. Right-wing extremists and hooligan groups also urged followers to appear in large numbers.
Nationalists are furious that the pro-Western government apprehended Mladic on Thursday after nearly 16 years on the run. The 69-year-old former general was caught at a relative's home in a northern Serbian village.
The U.N. tribunal charged Mladic with genocide in 1995, accusing him of orchestrating the massacre of 8,000 Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica and other war crimes of Bosnia's 1992-95 war. Mladic's arrest is considered critical to Serbia's efforts to join the European Union, and to reconciliation in the region after a series of ethnic wars of the 1990s.
Mladic's son, Darko Mladic, said Sunday that despite the indictment, his father insists he was not responsible for the mass executions committed by his troops after they overran the eastern Bosnian enclave of Srebrenica in July 1995.
"Whatever was done behind his back, he has nothing to do with that," Darko Mladic said.
The massacre in Srebrenica is considered to be Europe's worst atrocity since World War II. Bosnian Serb troops under Mladic's command rounded up boys and men and executed them over several days, burying the remains in mass graves in the area. Prosecutors say they have compelling evidence that Mladic personally ordered and oversaw the executions in and around Srebrenica.
But Serb nationalists in Serbia and parts of Bosnia still consider Mladic a hero — the general who against all odds tried to defend Serbs in the Bosnian conflict. Among his men, Mladic commanded fierce devotion — many Bosnian Serb soldiers pledged to follow him to the death.
Some 3,000 supporters arrived Sunday by bus from other parts of Bosnia to a rally at Kalinovik, the area where Mladic grew up. Many wore black T-shirts with Mladic's picture and the words "Serbia in my heart."
The crowd called Tadic a "betrayer" for ordering the arrest of "the Serb hero" and urged him to "kill himself." Many said they would fight under Mladic again.
Many of the Kalinovik protesters headed afterward to the shack Mladic was born in at the end of a steep, muddy road in the village of Bozanici, turning the shabby house into a pilgrimage site. Mladic's aunt and cousins spoke to them, telling stories about Mladic's childhood.
Mladic's family and lawyers have been fighting his extradition, arguing that the former general is too ill to face charges. The family plans to appeal the extradition on Monday and to demand an independent medical checkup — moves described by the authorities as a delaying tactics.
"He's a man who has not taken care of his health for a while, but not to the point that he cannot stand trial," Serbia's deputy war crimes prosecutor Bruno Vekaric told The Associated Press. "According to doctors, he doesn't need hospitalization."
Mladic has suffered at least two, and possibly three, strokes, the latest in 2008, his son said. The suspect's right arm is only semi-functional, and his family says he is not lucid.
Lawyer Milos Saljic says that Mladic above all keeps demanding that he be allowed to visit the grave of his daughter, who committed suicide in 1994.
"He says if he can't go there, he wants his daughter's coffin brought in here," the lawyer added. "His condition is alarming."
Saljic said the family does not believe that Mladic would receive proper medical attention in The Hague. He noted that several high-profile Serbs had died there, including former President Slobodan Milosevic, who suffered a heart attack.
I also like the bit I bolded at the end. :D
Yeah.
Milosevic suffered a "heart attack".
"Natural causes".
:rolleyes:
Murder.
I listened to a description of Mladic the other day from a Swedish officer who'd been assigned to the negotiation table with Mladic a few times during the war. Turns out he was actually kind of a dick. Or so the story goes.
QuoteMladic's son, Darko Mladic, said Sunday that despite the indictment, his father insists he was not responsible for the mass executions committed by his troops after they overran the eastern Bosnian enclave of Srebrenica in July 1995.
"Whatever was done behind his back, he has nothing to do with that," Darko Mladic said.
I think the term is "Command Responsibility" or something like that; I believe that is something the Mladic clan should remember.