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Title: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
I need to improve my intelligence level.
How can I do that?
Reading books is not enough.
I read a lot, and doens't make any diference.

What else can I do?

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Tonitrus on May 16, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Join the Air Force.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Viking on May 16, 2011, 08:36:51 PM
Religiosity correlates with iq, stop being a god botherer ditch the religion and go atheist. The salafists will hate you even more.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
I read a lot, and doens't make any diference.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't ever change, man.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Zeus on May 16, 2011, 08:41:55 PM
You can attend classes at a nearby community college. Or even take classes online.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Viking on May 16, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Join the Air Force.

Isn't that what he need to do to boost the average IQ of the Air-Force and Army at the same time?
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Berkut on May 16, 2011, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: vikingIsn't that what he need to do to boost the average IQ of the Air-Force and Army at the same time?                

Yes, that is what he need to do, fo sho.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Tonitrus on May 16, 2011, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Join the Air Force.

Isn't that what he need to do to boost the average IQ of the Air-Force and Army at the same time?

This isn't Sweden we're talking about here.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Legbiter on May 16, 2011, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Join the Air Force.

Yep.

See this recruitment video on how life will be like with the AF.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROH6dXV0tA

Well, at least this trailer beats the movie with Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Monoriu on May 16, 2011, 08:55:59 PM
I think "improving intelligence" is far too generic.  You need to break it down into digestable components.  Some mental skills that I find particularly useful are critical thinking and exposure.  Critical thinking allows you to evaluate your own performance effectively, and to differentiate between crap and useful information.  Exposure lets you see from different points of view and to make connections among bits and pieces.  Apart from all that, nothing beats "practice makes perfect".  If you do a job 100 times, each time looking for improvement, you'll do a much better job than someone who does it for the first few times.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 16, 2011, 08:59:09 PM
Walk up to a brick wall. Thrust forehead forward. Repeat as many times as needed.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Neil on May 16, 2011, 09:05:51 PM
Becoming white would be a good start.  :(
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Razgovory on May 16, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2011, 08:36:51 PM
Religiosity correlates with iq, stop being a god botherer ditch the religion and go atheist. The salafists will hate you even more.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 16, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM

Reading books is not enough.


Depends. What do you read?
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on May 16, 2011, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM

Reading books is not enough.

Perhaps you should move beyond See Spot Run and Dr. Seuss books. ;)
Also, stop drinking Miller Lite and start drinking fine wine. It's what all the rich, smart people drink.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 16, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
Well, your IQ is the ratio of your real age to your mental age, so I suggest you stop watching the Disney channel.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 16, 2011, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on May 16, 2011, 08:55:59 PM
I think "improving intelligence" is far too generic.  You need to break it down into digestable components.  Some mental skills that I find particularly useful are critical thinking and exposure.  Critical thinking allows you to evaluate your own performance effectively, and to differentiate between crap and useful information.  Exposure lets you see from different points of view and to make connections among bits and pieces.  Apart from all that, nothing beats "practice makes perfect".  If you do a job 100 times, each time looking for improvement, you'll do a much better job than someone who does it for the first few times.

For shame, Monoriu. You should know constructive answers are not wanted nor needed here.  :mad:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
Reading books is not enough.
What else can I do?

Read the good kind of books.  Most universities offer their syllabus on-line nowadays, complete with working material and recommended chapters.
Find the field that interest you, gather these books and read.  Once you're done, read again.  And once more for the road.

What was it recently... something like "a mind is a weapon, and it needs books just like your sword needs limestone".  Yeah, I think that was it ;)
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:23:29 AM
Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
Reading books is not enough.
What else can I do?

Read the good kind of books.  Most universities offer their syllabus on-line nowadays, complete with working material and recommended chapters.
Find the field that interest you, gather these books and read.  Once you done, read again.  And once more for the road.

You should take your own advice.  :hmm:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2011, 01:34:58 AM
Why are people giving serious advice?  :huh:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 17, 2011, 01:56:10 AM
Because it's a serious matter.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Syt on May 17, 2011, 02:00:09 AM
Brain teasers are a good way to keep the noggin worked out:
http://brainden.com/

http://www.websudoku.com/

Also, do crossword puzzles. Preferrably ones that give hints that require you to think and not only reproduce learned information.
http://www.crossword-puzzles.co.uk/
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Monoriu on May 17, 2011, 02:13:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2011, 01:34:58 AM
Why are people giving serious advice?  :huh:

Are you intelligent enough to give a serious answer :contract:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 02:15:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2011, 01:34:58 AM
Why are people giving serious advice?  :huh:

Because we take Siegy seriously and believe he has potential.

If you wonder, now, why we never give you serious advice... well...
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: dps on May 17, 2011, 03:14:27 AM
Try just staying sober more often.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: The Brain on May 17, 2011, 09:02:20 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 16, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
I need to improve my intelligence level.
How can I do that?
Reading books is not enough.
I read a lot, and doens't make any diference.

What else can I do?

What exactly do you mean "intelligence level"? If you want to score better on IQ tests my impression is that doing a lot of IQ tests will help you. Or do you want to be better at intelligent conversation?
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 17, 2011, 09:28:58 AM
Buy a book on basic logic.

Read a quality daily newspaper.

Read your way through an encyclopedia.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 17, 2011, 09:28:58 AM
Read your way through an encyclopedia.
Read Wikipedia and all the quoted sources :P
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Razgovory on May 17, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
Siegey, you're smart enough.  I know we knock you on this board, but you aren't a dim bulb by any stretch.

Besides,

QuoteThough I said to myself, "Behold, I have become great and stored up wisdom beyond all who were before me in Jerusalem, and my mind has broad experience of wisdom and knowledge";

    yet when I applied my mind to know wisdom and knowledge, madness and folly, I learned that this also is a chase after wind.

    For in much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who stores up knowledge stores up grief.

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: The Brain on May 17, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
Siegey, you're smart enough.  I know we knock you on this board, but you aren't a dim bulb by any stretch.

Besides,

QuoteThough I said to myself, "Behold, I have become great and stored up wisdom beyond all who were before me in Jerusalem, and my mind has broad experience of wisdom and knowledge";

    yet when I applied my mind to know wisdom and knowledge, madness and folly, I learned that this also is a chase after wind.

    For in much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who stores up knowledge stores up grief.

Sour grapes. Being super intelligent is totally awesome, makes you happy as fuck. My life isn't misery.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 17, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
What is exactly you want to do that you can't do now?

What is exactly is the deficiency that you think you have that you want to remedy?
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:55:22 PM
He's getting old, but he knows instinctively that in order to be more than a Footsoldier of Zion, it requires brainz.

Maybe if you eat a few christian fetuses, their stemcells will boost your powers.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Norgy on May 17, 2011, 12:55:57 PM
For what it's worth, Languish is a place where it is easy to feel stupid about something or the other.

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
And for some, easier than for others.  :hmm:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:55:22 PM
He's getting old, but he knows instinctively that in order to be more than a Footsoldier of Zion, it requires brainz.

Maybe if you eat a few christian fetuses, their stemcells will boost your powers.

That's not why we eat Christian fetuses.

They just taste really good.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:55:22 PM
He's getting old, but he knows instinctively that in order to be more than a Footsoldier of Zion, it requires brainz.

Maybe if you eat a few christian fetuses, their stemcells will boost your powers.

That's not why we eat Christian fetuses.

They just taste really good.

Isn't it liberating to be able to say these things under the guise of ostensible jocularity?
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Norgy on May 17, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
And for some, easier than for others.  :hmm:

Being able to feel stupid and knowing ones' limitations do require a level of insight certain people can never hope to attain.  :)
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:21:12 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 17, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
And for some, easier than for others.  :hmm:

Being able to feel stupid and knowing ones' limitations do require a level of insight certain people can never hope to attain.  :)

My point exactly.  :hmm:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Siege on May 20, 2011, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 17, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
What is exactly you want to do that you can't do now?

What is exactly is the deficiency that you think you have that you want to remedy?

I am not very smart.
I am taking longer to process information.
I am not retaining as much information as I used to.
I am having memory problems. I am forgetting not just the menial stuff, like where I parked my car, but important stuff.

I have always been at a disadvantage because of the language barrier. Doesn't matter how well you speak, write and understand a foreign language, it will always remain a foreign language. It takes an effort. I feel like my memory in english is far smaller than in hebrew. Not the written word, which sometimes I forget wheather I read a book in hebrew or english, but the spoken word. My brain connections were made in a diferent software. I feel like a Apple computer trying to run a windows program.

Interesting enough, I don't feel the same disadvantages in combat. Appearenly the stress of combat opens my ears and improves my accent. More likely, a lifetime of exposure to the extremes of combat have improved my ability to deal with it, making me appear mentally and physically faster than people that are actually faster and smarter than me.

I guess I am just having a hard time getting used to garrison life. It is also a new unit where people don't know the details of my performance in combat. I mean, I have the awards and the combat record, but that does not tell the details of the story. And I am not the kind of guy that goes around telling war stories, outside of languish when I drink a couple beers.

I guess I'll feel better after I deploy with this unit and get an oportunity to show them what I can do. At the same time, I hope I keep my cool and I do not forget that in combat you cannot let yourself feel the preasure to score, because that only leads to failure and demoralization of your own soldiers. Joes can read through you. If they feel you are willing to risk their hides to score a kill, you will lose their confidence, which in time leads to mission failure. You cannot fight a war by yourself. It is a team effort.

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Razgovory on May 20, 2011, 04:39:00 PM
I remember Nintendo releasing a bunch of little mind games that were suppose to exercise your brain.  Don't know if that really works.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Age:_Train_Your_Brain_in_Minutes_a_Day!

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 20, 2011, 04:39:07 PM
the language barrier is real but there is nothing you can do about the fact that English isn't your first language.  Your written English at least is excellent so there is not much you can do there.

For improving memory and processing, there are standard techniques and drills that you can use, which you can probably find pretty easily by googling.  But as you get towards and past middle age, there are certain physical realities that come into play.

For my 2c a bigger issue for you is your dogmatic cast of mind.  But it seems to work for you and may be an advantage in your chosen profession.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Razgovory on May 20, 2011, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2011, 04:02:33 PM

Interesting enough, I don't feel the same disadvantages in combat. Appearenly the stress of combat opens my ears and improves my accent. More likely, a lifetime of exposure to the extremes of combat have improved my ability to deal with it, making me appear mentally and physically faster than people that are actually faster and smarter than me.


My God, he's a Kafer!
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: mongers on May 20, 2011, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 20, 2011, 04:39:07 PM
the language barrier is real but there is nothing you can do about the fact that English isn't your first language.  Your written English at least is excellent so there is not much you can do there.
......

This.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Martinus on May 21, 2011, 02:39:31 AM
Btw, Siegy, military intelligence is an oxymoron. You are fine.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on May 21, 2011, 03:56:25 AM
I'd recommend a course at a local college. Night classes in some subject where you are woefully ignorant atm. Maybe mathematics or a hard science subject would be a good choice, these subjects develop the intellect but also respond well to self-discipline and hard work which we know you are capable of.
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: The Brain on May 21, 2011, 04:19:20 AM
How does math respond to Miller Lite? :hmm:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on May 21, 2011, 06:24:34 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 21, 2011, 04:19:20 AM
How does math respond to Miller Lite? :hmm:

Which reminds me, drinkers of fine beers are more intelligent than drinkers of garbage like miller or coors lite. Perhaps a simple switch to superior beers will give Siegey the intelligence boost he wants  :hmm:
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Strix on May 21, 2011, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 21, 2011, 06:24:34 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 21, 2011, 04:19:20 AM
How does math respond to Miller Lite? :hmm:

Which reminds me, drinkers of fine beers are more intelligent than drinkers of garbage like miller or coors lite. Perhaps a simple switch to superior beers will give Siegey the intelligence boost he wants  :hmm:

I believe he should go in the opposite direction. Start drinking Golden Anniversary and Black Label. Surrounding yourself with people who drink such fine products will make you feel like a rocket scientist in comparison.

Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Zeus on May 21, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 17, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
Siegey, you're smart enough.  I know we knock you on this board, but you aren't a dim bulb by any stretch.

Besides,

QuoteThough I said to myself, "Behold, I have become great and stored up wisdom beyond all who were before me in Jerusalem, and my mind has broad experience of wisdom and knowledge";

    yet when I applied my mind to know wisdom and knowledge, madness and folly, I learned that this also is a chase after wind.

    For in much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who stores up knowledge stores up grief.

Sour grapes. Being super intelligent is totally awesome, makes you happy as fuck. My life isn't misery.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19174_5-unexpected-downsides-high-intelligence.html
Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: LaCroix on May 22, 2011, 01:23:35 AM
Quote from: Zeus on May 21, 2011, 07:59:43 PMcracked.com

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Title: Re: How can I become more intelligent?
Post by: Siege on May 22, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on May 22, 2011, 01:23:35 AM
Quote from: Zeus on May 21, 2011, 07:59:43 PMcracked.com

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