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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Viking on April 15, 2009, 07:17:45 PM

Title: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Viking on April 15, 2009, 07:17:45 PM
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=561939

From the "quality" rag Verdens Gang

Quote- Innvandrere bak alle anmeldte overfallsvoldtekter i Oslo

Samtlige 41 anmeldte overfallsvoldtekter i Oslo de siste tre årene er ifølge politiet begått av ikke-vestlige innvandrere.

- Gjerningspersonene er relativt unge menn som kommer fra andre land. De er ofte asylsøkere og kommer ofte fra traumatiserte land eller land med et helt annet kvinnesyn enn vi har i Norge, sier leder Hanne Kristin Rohde ved Oslo-politiets volds- og sedelighetsseksjon til NRK.

Hun sier gjerningsmennene enten er traumatiserte eller psykisk skadd, eller at de kommer fra et land der vold mot kvinner er vanlig.

- Vi ser at flere av dem har et kvinnesyn som tilsier at de når som helst kan ta kontroll over andre personer, da helst kvinner, sier Rohde.

Grov vold

Det er menn med kurdisk eller afrikansk bakgrunn som dominerer statistikken. Ingen av anmeldelsene involverer etnisk norske gjerningsmenn.

Det som kjennetegner overfallsvoldtektene, er trusler eller bruk av grov vold.

Politiet mener det trengs mer forebyggende arbeid blant menn med innvandrerbakgrunn.


To summarise for any non-scanditards that choose to browse here.

"All of the 41 charged rapes in Oslo during the last 3 years have been, according to the police, committed by non-western (code for black or brown) immigrants"

and

"None of the charged rapes were committed by ethnic Norwegians."

While this leaves open the possibility that none of the ethnic Norwegians were charged (date rape/rape in marriage or relationship).

Slargos, now you can rant...
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Razgovory on April 15, 2009, 07:23:14 PM
It would be easier just to PM the three who could actually answer this.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2009, 07:25:05 PM
Color me skeptical, but I'm just a little doubtful that not one ethnic Norwegian has committed rape in Oslo in the last three years.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 15, 2009, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2009, 07:25:05 PM
Color me skeptical,

Is skeptical the same as brown?  :P
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Ape on April 15, 2009, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 15, 2009, 07:17:45 PM
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=561939

From the "quality" rag Verdens Gang

Quote- Innvandrere bak alle anmeldte overfallsvoldtekter i Oslo

Samtlige 41 anmeldte overfallsvoldtekter i Oslo de siste tre årene er ifølge politiet begått av ikke-vestlige innvandrere.

- Gjerningspersonene er relativt unge menn som kommer fra andre land. De er ofte asylsøkere og kommer ofte fra traumatiserte land eller land med et helt annet kvinnesyn enn vi har i Norge, sier leder Hanne Kristin Rohde ved Oslo-politiets volds- og sedelighetsseksjon til NRK.

Hun sier gjerningsmennene enten er traumatiserte eller psykisk skadd, eller at de kommer fra et land der vold mot kvinner er vanlig.

- Vi ser at flere av dem har et kvinnesyn som tilsier at de når som helst kan ta kontroll over andre personer, da helst kvinner, sier Rohde.

Grov vold

Det er menn med kurdisk eller afrikansk bakgrunn som dominerer statistikken. Ingen av anmeldelsene involverer etnisk norske gjerningsmenn.

Det som kjennetegner overfallsvoldtektene, er trusler eller bruk av grov vold.

Politiet mener det trengs mer forebyggende arbeid blant menn med innvandrerbakgrunn.


To summarise for any non-scanditards that choose to browse here.

"All of the 41 charged rapes in Oslo during the last 3 years have been, according to the police, committed by non-western (code for black or brown) immigrants"

and

"None of the charged rapes were committed by ethnic Norwegians."

While this leaves open the possibility that none of the ethnic Norwegians were charged (date rape/rape in marriage or relationship).

Slargos, now you can rant...

Is the Norwegian police morons? Wait don't answer of course they are.  :pinchL

First of all, only 41 charged rape cases in Oslo in a three year timeperiod? How big is Oslo? 600K? 700K?

Secondly, what constitiutes as rape in Norway? Ah ok "overfallsvoldtektene"  assaultrape? Assault and Rape? What would the anglosaxon term be?

Thirdly how many of these alledged non-european rapists were convicted?
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2009, 02:10:06 AM
Maybe aggravated rape.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2009, 02:10:06 AM
Maybe aggravated rape.

"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers. The article doesn't say that no rapists are ethnic norwegians. Simply that no ethnic norwegians are being reported doing the skulker rapist bit.

I noticed this a few days ago in another rag, but the biggest reason I didn't mention it is because while it confirms what I've been saying for years it would only make me sound like a record that works perfectly fine yet repeats the same tune over and over and over.  :P

People like Ape find this an acceptable price in the progress towards an american-style melting pot.

Edit:

The history of the bit about Södertälje is an interesting sidenote. Södertälje got its 15 minutes of fame last year when it was trumpeted that this little Swedish town received more iraki refugees than the entirety of the USA. It has subsequently seen a massive rise in violent crime culminating with the machinegun shooting against the police station a few months back. Grateful refugees also seem to have brought their hatred with them and it's apparently actually pretty dangerous to be alone after dark now, since roving gangs of christian syrians are beating up on muslim arabs who are beating up on the now few ethnic swedes.

The latest culture enrichment has added the word "rapegang" to the public vocabulary, when a group of tweens decided to start recreationally gangraping women after getting them drunk or drugged. Prior gangrape cases tended to generally look like incidents of opportunity crime, whereas these guys have been intentionally tracking drunk women with the help of local bar owners and/or drugging them and taking them to specific spots where the offenses have been committed.

But hey, it's all growth pains.

We just need to get to understand them better, and abolish the structural racism that forces these poor people into a class-struggle that culminates in these unfortunate youthful escapades..
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2009, 04:24:53 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers.
There's a special crime name just for that? :huh:
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Brazen on April 16, 2009, 04:26:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2009, 07:25:05 PM
Color me skeptical, but I'm just a little doubtful that not one ethnic Norwegian has committed rape in Oslo in the last three years.
They're too drunk.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2009, 04:24:53 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers.
There's a special crime name just for that? :huh:

Våldtäkt = rape

Överfall = assault in the connotation of ambush.

As far as I'm aware, the crime in and of itself is rape. The term describes the circumstances.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: The Brain on April 16, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Fucking Oslo savages. And the immigrants in Norway are pretty bad too.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers. The article doesn't say that no rapists are ethnic norwegians. Simply that no ethnic norwegians are being reported doing the skulker rapist bit.

Isn't the general idea that more people are raped by people they know than rape by attacking stranger?
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: The Brain on April 16, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers. The article doesn't say that no rapists are ethnic norwegians. Simply that no ethnic norwegians are being reported doing the skulker rapist bit.

Isn't the general idea that more people are raped by people they know than rape by attacking stranger?

And this matters how?
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Cecil on April 16, 2009, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers. The article doesn't say that no rapists are ethnic norwegians. Simply that no ethnic norwegians are being reported doing the skulker rapist bit.

Isn't the general idea that more people are raped by people they know than rape by attacking stranger?

Indeed but guess which one whips people up into a frenzy.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
"Överfallsvåldtäkt" is when the rapist is hiding in a bush in the park and surprisefucks unwary travellers. The article doesn't say that no rapists are ethnic norwegians. Simply that no ethnic norwegians are being reported doing the skulker rapist bit.

Isn't the general idea that more people are raped by people they know than rape by attacking stranger?

Indeed. And 41 cases over the last 3 years isn't really a large number except for the victims.

However, When you look at the total number of rapes you get some 5300 in 2007 with 72,8% of the perps designated "non-ethnic norwegian" (non-citizens, first generation migrants and their children, unsure if third generation is also taken into account).

To me, these are damning numbers. However, I know that some people will dismiss them as irrelevant or deny they are even true. I read a swedish socialist politician's blog actually stating both. This is why Viking posted this snippet, and I didn't.

But hey, gotta break some eggs.
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
Krun Prinz Haakon is one of the hotest mans alive.   :yes: :uffda:
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
Krun Prinz Haakon is one of the hotest mans alive.   :yes: :uffda:

If you're going to get all ethnic on me, you need to note that the technical term is "kronprins", one word.  :bowler:
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
Krun Prinz Haakon is one of the hotest mans alive.   :yes: :uffda:

If you're going to get all ethnic on me, you need to note that the technical term is "kronprins", one word.  :bowler:

kronprins.  Nicht Krun Prinz.  Danke fur ihren hilfen!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 16, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on April 16, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
Krun Prinz Haakon is one of the hotest mans alive.   :yes: :uffda:

If you're going to get all ethnic on me, you need to note that the technical term is "kronprins", one word.  :bowler:

kronprins.  Nicht Krun Prinz.  Danke fur ihren hilfen!  :w00t:

Bitte. :pickelhaube:
Title: Re: Is Oslo the new Södertälje? (scanditards only)
Post by: The Brain on April 17, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Hey Habs, Sweden's Prince Carl Philip is single again. FYI