... committed by America. :lol:
Nothing reported on what he thought of the North Korean Gov't. The impression the article conveys (dunno how accurately) is - starvation in NK is all the fault of the real bad guys here, the Americans and South Koreans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-asia-pacific-13221867
QuoteFormer US President Jimmy Carter has accused the US and South Korea of human rights violations against North Koreans by withholding food aid.
<_<
Naturally. Any time that anybody wants for anything, anywhere in the world, it is America's fault.
HATE AMERICA FIRST!
Clearly the South Koreans and the United States are the only two countries who have any food.
That guy is just a white Obama.
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
The converse isn't so strange. After all, Obama is still president. Who knows what madness he'll succumb to after his presdency?
Quote from: garbon on April 28, 2011, 11:53:36 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
The converse isn't so strange. After all, Obama is still president. Who knows what madness he'll succumb to after his presdency?
He'll get back into community organizing, but take it global, developing it into something like SPECTRE :o
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
If only he could have been convinced to withdraw from America. ;)
The long national nightmare of the USA continues... :(
History's greatest monstrous.
Jimmy Carter is an excellent argument for electing dictators for life rather than presidents for 4 years.
the man lacks loyalties. his idiocy shouldn't come before america
:face:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/04/huntsman-candidacy-for-gop-nomination-wins-praise-from-jimmy-carter/
QuoteFormer Democratic President Jimmy Carter has a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination for president.
In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is "very attractive to me personally."
Huntsman formed a PAC on Tuesday, a move widely considered a step to launching a run for president.
The former Utah governor and former Ambassador to China is disliked by some conservatives for being a moderate Republican closely affiliated with the Obama administration.
Carter told CNN that despite his attraction to Huntsman, his "intention is to vote for the Democratic candidate."
In April, The Daily Caller published fawning letters written by Huntsman to President Obama and former President Bill Clinton. Huntsman called Obama a "remarkable leader" and complimented Clinton's "brilliant analysis of world events."
On Tuesday, Carter told CNN, "I still believe that racial issue is one of the factors, not the only factor, in people accusing President Obama of not being a citizen of America."
Carter addressed possible presidential candidate Donald Trump's "birther" crusade, saying, "Donald Trump was apparently just using it to get publicity for himself and to separate himself from the even more rational Republicans."
Quote from: garbon on May 04, 2011, 04:51:19 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/04/huntsman-candidacy-for-gop-nomination-wins-praise-from-jimmy-carter/
QuoteFormer Democratic President Jimmy Carter has a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination for president.
In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is "very attractive to me personally."
He's lusting in his heart again.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 04, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?
Just didn't like the Pie Faced bastards.
Quote from: garbon on May 04, 2011, 04:51:19 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/04/huntsman-candidacy-for-gop-nomination-wins-praise-from-jimmy-carter/
QuoteFormer Democratic President Jimmy Carter has a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination for president.
In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is "very attractive to me personally."
Huntsman formed a PAC on Tuesday, a move widely considered a step to launching a run for president.
The former Utah governor and former Ambassador to China is disliked by some conservatives for being a moderate Republican closely affiliated with the Obama administration.
Carter told CNN that despite his attraction to Huntsman, his "intention is to vote for the Democratic candidate."
In April, The Daily Caller published fawning letters written by Huntsman to President Obama and former President Bill Clinton. Huntsman called Obama a "remarkable leader" and complimented Clinton's "brilliant analysis of world events."
On Tuesday, Carter told CNN, "I still believe that racial issue is one of the factors, not the only factor, in people accusing President Obama of not being a citizen of America."
Carter addressed possible presidential candidate Donald Trump's "birther" crusade, saying, "Donald Trump was apparently just using it to get publicity for himself and to separate himself from the even more rational Republicans."
I like Huntsman. Now he's tainted. :weep:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 04, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?
It was right after the US withdrawal from SE Asia and the fall of Saigon. He apparently felt that the US would be better off withdrawing completely from mainland east Asia.
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
Carter crashed a helicopter into Iran. Obama crashed a helicopter into Pakistan
and killed bin Laden. Advantage: Obama.
Quote from: Kleves on May 04, 2011, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
Carter crashed a helicopter into Iran. Obama crashed a helicopter into Pakistan and killed bin Laden. Advantage: Obama.
Obviously the quoted post reflected pre-5/1 mentality. :rolleyes:
He couldn't have chosen a better moment, considering the information released by the Amnesty International just two days ago:
QuoteLONDON (Reuters) – North Korea is holding around 200,000 people in huge political prison camps where inmates are forced to work in conditions approaching slavery and are often tortured, Amnesty International said on Tuesday.
The rights group published recent satellite images showing four of the six camps located in vast wilderness sites in South Pyongan, South Hamkyung and North Hamkyung provinces.
A comparison with satellite pictures from 2001 indicated a significant increase in the scale of the camps, which are believed to have been operating since the 1950s, it said.
Amnesty International spoke to a number of people, including former inmates from the political prison camp at Yodok, as well as guards in other camps, revealing what it said were horrific conditions.
The former detainees at Yodok said prisoners were forced to work in conditions close to slavery and were frequently subjected to torture and other cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment, Amnesty International said. All the detainees at Yodok had witnessed public executions, it said.
Food is scarce in the camps. Amnesty International said it had been told of several accounts of people eating rats or picking corn kernels out of animal waste to survive.
Amnesty called on North Korea, one of the world's most secretive states, to close all political prison camps and to release all prisoners of conscience.
"North Korea can no longer deny the undeniable. For decades the authorities have refused to admit to the existence of mass political prison camps," Sam Zarifi, Amnesty International's Asia Pacific director, said in a statement.
"As North Korea seems to be moving toward a new leader in Kim Jong-un and a period of political instability, the big worry is that the prison camps appear to be growing in size," he said, referring to the son and presumed successor of Kim Jong-il.
Thousands of people are believed to be held as "guilty-by-association" or sent to the camps simply because one of their relatives has been detained, Amnesty said.
According to one former detainee at Yodok, an estimated 40 percent of inmates died from malnutrition between 1999 and 2001.
Jeong Kyoungil, who was detained in Yodok from 2000 to 2003, said prisoners worked from 4 a.m. to 8 p.m. with two breaks for meals of corn gruel. "From 9 p.m. to 11 p.m., it's time for ideology education. If we don't memorize the 10 codes of ethics we would not be allowed to sleep," he said.
"Disruptive" inmates are put for at least a week in a cube "torture cell," where it is impossible to either stand or lie down, Amnesty International said.
This is from huffpo. I also read elsewhere that kids born to people there are also kept there for the rest of their lives.
So the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag? This guy strikes me as an American version of Ken Livingstone - growing more and more disgusting as he gets older.
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
Jimmy Carter is an excellent argument for electing dictators for life rather than presidents for 4 years.
You mean against, right?
QuoteSo the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag?
I'd say moron. Jimmy boy at least builds houses for the poors.
Actually I think he's more of a douchebag than a moron. Yes, he does build houses for poors, but his constant attention whoring betrays him as an unrepentant egomaniac, and his tendency to say dumb shit about what the current President is doing is couterproductive. Notice how whenever there's a current-and-former Presidents gathering, he's always standing off to the side in the group photo? I'm sure they all hate him.
Yeah, North Korea, a slave state nation run by one of the world's most abusive governments. It's their fault entirely that their people don't have enough food. Carter enables the NK govt by passing the blame. Instead he should be lambasting the NK govt for what they do everywhere in the nation. I can't imagine the horror conditions the people in that Huff article have to live under. In fact, the people of NK are probably fed mainly by the good graces of other countries, because the NK govt surely isn't helping the plight of its people.
Quote from: Martinus on May 05, 2011, 02:03:47 AM
So the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag? This guy strikes me as an American version of Ken Livingstone - growing more and more disgusting as he gets older.
I'd say senile. He was a bad president, but he wasn't this flaky back then.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2011, 09:00:12 AM
I'd say senile.
While I agree that's a possibility, you'd think some of his handlers/his wife would gently back him out of the spoltlight if it was the case (see: Reagan).
JC just speaks truth to power. :elvis:
EDIT: Honestly, he really does. :bowler: Crybaby Americans just don't want to hear about it. :wacko: Yes, Israel is an apartheid state. No, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death. No, Bill Clinton is not cool. Yes, we were malaised. JC = 4/4. :secret: :showoff:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 05, 2011, 09:15:46 AM
JC just speaks truth to power. :elvis:
EDIT: Honestly, he really does. :bowler: Crybaby Americans just don't want to hear about it. :wacko: Yes, Israel is an apartheid state. No, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death. No, Bill Clinton is not cool. Yes, we were malaised. JC = 4/4. :secret: :showoff:
OOOh, argumentation by assertion! That's never been tried on languish before! I'll bet it works really, really well. :sleep:
Quote from: grumbler on May 05, 2011, 09:25:51 AMOOOh, argumentation by assertion! That's never been tried on languish before! I'll bet it works really, really well. :sleep:
I can't prove a negative. ^_^
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 05, 2011, 09:15:46 AM
JC just speaks truth to power. :elvis:
EDIT: Honestly, he really does. :bowler: Crybaby Americans just don't want to hear about it. :wacko: Yes, Israel is an apartheid state. No, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death. No, Bill Clinton is not cool. Yes, we were malaised. JC = 4/4. :secret: :showoff:
You left out the part about Hamas being an organization of peaceful coexistence. And this thread started with Jimmy C talking about the US and South Korea's moral obligation to feed North Korea, not about the ineffectiveness of sanctions. Then throw in the bit about the free and fair election in Venezuela. And the racism of anyone opposed to Obamacare.
If you mean he sometimes speaks truth to power, but most of the time he's off by a country mile, you might have a point.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 05, 2011, 09:50:13 AM
If you mean he sometimes speaks truth to power, but most of the time he's off by a country mile, you might have a point.
Maybe he speaks truth at power? Towards power? :unsure:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 05, 2011, 10:01:28 AM
Maybe he speaks truth at power? Towards power? :unsure:
He speaks a lot in the vicinity of power.
Quote from: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 07:08:41 AM
Actually I think he's more of a douchebag than a moron. Yes, he does build houses for poors, but his constant attention whoring betrays him as an unrepentant egomaniac, and his tendency to say dumb shit about what the current President is doing is couterproductive. Notice how whenever there's a current-and-former Presidents gathering, he's always standing off to the side in the group photo? I'm sure they all hate him.
Another person who also built houses for the poor:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_Jka5cU8-lyA%2FTDawCB7kkHI%2FAAAAAAAAAH4%2FXCwW0moijkE%2Fs1600%2Fdexter-john-lithgow.jpg&hash=3154952fb171456bf6de84070ac4b6e19579098a)
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 05, 2011, 09:15:46 AM
Yes, Israel is an apartheid state.
Yep
QuoteNo, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death.
They work against a government that has at least a little concern about their own citizens. That's why they worked eventually against South Africa but won't work against North Korea. The Nationalist government, as bad as its racial views were, did at least care a bit about their people, while the North Korean leadership obviously doesn't.
That's why it's better in most situations to just bomb the shit outta stuff.
QuoteNo, Bill Clinton is not cool.
Yep.
QuoteYes, we were malaised.
Yes, but his understanding of the cause and ideas about how to cure it were way off. Sort of as if a doctor saw that you can't breath, decided that you have lung cancer, and wanted to start you on chemo, when actually you couldn't breath because you were having a heart attack.
QuoteJC = 4/4.
More like 2.5/4, and the 2 were just stating the obvious (or what should be obvious).
Quote from: CaligaNotice how whenever there's a current-and-former Presidents gathering, he's always standing off to the side in the group photo? I'm sure they all hate him.
I've read some stuff that certainly suggests that most of them view him with thinly-disguised contempt. Oddly, the one who was least negative towards him was Ford. Clinton appartantly particularly was negative about him, possibly partly because criticism of his foreign policy by a fellow Democrat was potentially more damaging.
Didn't Jimmy criticize him for Monicagate, too? Remember Carter is a Baptist wacko... IIRC he still teaches Sunday School in Plains.
Quote from: Martinus on May 05, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 07:08:41 AM
Actually I think he's more of a douchebag than a moron. Yes, he does build houses for poors, but his constant attention whoring betrays him as an unrepentant egomaniac, and his tendency to say dumb shit about what the current President is doing is couterproductive. Notice how whenever there's a current-and-former Presidents gathering, he's always standing off to the side in the group photo? I'm sure they all hate him.
Another person who also built houses for the poor:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_Jka5cU8-lyA%2FTDawCB7kkHI%2FAAAAAAAAAH4%2FXCwW0moijkE%2Fs1600%2Fdexter-john-lithgow.jpg&hash=3154952fb171456bf6de84070ac4b6e19579098a)