What would you say is more cost effective and better in instilling discipline?
:lmfao:
:lol:
I would think the vast majority of personal trainers don't get into the business to look for gay hookups.
You may find it surprising, Slarg, but a lot of people are not satisfied with a "fat slob" standard when it comes to personal fitness, pretty much in the same way they are not satisfied with "kitchen salesman" when it comes to career ambitions.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
:lol:
I would think the vast majority of personal trainers don't get into the business to look for gay hookups.
Fuck you. I have a boyfriend for a year now and was not thinking of doing it for hookup purposes. :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 12:27:51 PMI have a boyfriend for a year now and was not thinking of doing it for hookup purposes. :P
Oh, bullshit. In fact, that's not only bullshit, that's intergalactic spanning time-and-space uberbullshit.
Neither, buy a judogi and find the nearest dojo. Should whip you into the best shape of your life in 3 months.
I have no idea about cost, but unless you find a rowing machine that will follow you around and yell 'Stroke me' when you are lazy I would think the trainer would be better for discipline.
If you hire a personal trainer you will still need some gear to work out on. Unless you feel like paying someone to be your jogging partner.
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 12:27:15 PM
You may find it surprising, Slarg, but a lot of people are not satisfied with a "fat slob" standard when it comes to personal fitness, pretty much in the same way they are not satisfied with "kitchen salesman" when it comes to career ambitions.
That's not what I'm laughing about. The notion that having a rowing machine would amount to motivation... :lmfao:
I dunno. Being able to do exercises whilst watching TV appeals to me far more than wasting hours of my life trecking to the gym to work out surrounded by beef heads.
Finding motivation on your own is harder than someone ramming it down your throat.
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
What would you say is more cost effective and better in instilling discipline?
Good Hod. A rowing machine, hell even a Sit-down-and-get-a-workout-while-you-wank machine is not something that will instill discipline.
In my experience, self-discipline starts with deep self-loathing. Only by deeply and passionately disliking your current self can you change on your own. And some visible flab just won't create that deep a self-loathing.
A personal trainer is no guarantee either. I'd suggest organised sports of some sorts. Something where no-shows get bad reps.
So either become a Catholic and loathe your lust for men and yourself and go on long, solitary runs to punish yourself or give into your gay fantasies and start playing a team sport with lots of homoerotic locker room activity.
And for crying out loud, no rowing machine.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
If you hire a personal trainer you will still need some gear to work out on. Unless you feel like paying someone to be your jogging partner.
No, that would be at the gym.
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 01:15:49 PM
No, that would be at the gym.
OK, I thought you meant the Hollywood style personal trainer where they come to your home.
Definitely go with the personal trainer over the row boat since you can afford it.
I'm sorta shocked he didn't get one of those game machines with the workout games.
If there was a Beat The 'Tard for Playstation Move or Kinect, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Quote from: Norgy on April 17, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
If there was a Beat The 'Tard for Playstation Move or Kinect, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
You could always invite Slargos over. People won't realize he is gone until after weeks have passed by. :secret:
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 17, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
If there was a Beat The 'Tard for Playstation Move or Kinect, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
You could always invite Slargos over. People won't realize he is gone until after weeks have passed by. :secret:
:huh:
Alternatively, we could just hang you up and beat you like a Polish Rainbow Coloured Piñata.
Quote from: Slargos on April 17, 2011, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 17, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
If there was a Beat The 'Tard for Playstation Move or Kinect, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
You could always invite Slargos over. People won't realize he is gone until after weeks have passed by. :secret:
:huh:
Alternatively, we could just hang you up and beat you like a Polish Rainbow Coloured Piñata.
We could have a Warsaw Gay Bash. :cheers:
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
What would you say is more cost effective and better in instilling discipline?
assuming this is really about fitness and not some gay hookup thing ;) here is what I think:
- Set your objectives first. What do you want? Simply lose weight or gain muscle? Do you have any medical conditions at all preventing you from doing sport as much as you'd like? Do you have any old injuries lingering?
- How much time in a week are you ready to dedicate to your training? How long will you maintain the training?
A personal trainer will cost you the price of the rowing machine for 6 months. It's worth it if you have pre-defined, very clear objectives. Using a personal trainer simply to lose weight is no good. Especially if you're not ready to follow their crazy diet.
On the other hand, if you want to achieve something specific (regain tonus in your abs, get bigger arms, run faster&longer, etc), a personal trainer at the gym is the way to go.
If it's difficult for you to find time off your work or personal life to go to the gym at the specific hours it is open, than you might consider a rowing machine at home. If you only work 35hrs/week, subscribe to the gym & the personal trainer.
Nothing prevents you from buying the rowing machine one or two years from now, once you have a good training method and good diet plan.
LOL I work 50 hours a week. On a lazy week. :P
But yeah I definitely want not just to lose weight, but work on my abs and upper body/arms. I am thinking 2-3 hours per week. I will try it for a month or so and see how it works out.
Quote from: Zeus on April 17, 2011, 01:12:11 PM
Finding motivation on your own is harder than someone ramming it down your throat.
Motivation won't be the only hard thing getting rammed down his throat.
You don't learn self-discipline by buying it. You learn it by getting up at 5am and working out on your own because you know you've got a 12-hour working day coming up.
Buy yourself some running shoes and a 12kg kettle bell and I'll write you a routine.
Quote from: Brazen on April 18, 2011, 04:16:30 AM
You don't learn self-discipline by buying it. You learn it by getting up at 5am and working out on your own because you know you've got a 12-hour working day coming up.
Buy yourself some running shoes and a 12kg kettle bell and I'll write you a routine.
Sorry, it doesn't work this way.
Martinus, why are you asking this question ? You have a bicycle.
I use a personal trainer. For me at least, it is the only way I'll get up at 6 am to work out.
I do mostly weight training. It isn't any good for losing weight, but at my age, it is work out or degenerate, muscle-wise.
"Home gym" equipment is worthless if you are like me, because you won't use it.
Quote from: Martinus on April 18, 2011, 06:51:17 AM
Sorry, it doesn't work this way.
What doesn't? I don't see your problem. You said you wanted to instil self-discipline, do you in fact mean "I have no self-discipline, what will make me less likely to cop out?"
You'll get your exercise, yes, but you won't get the discipline.
So, I'm having an appointment with my personal trainer tomorrow evening. His name is Artur. :ph34r:
Quote from: Martinus on April 18, 2011, 11:15:17 AM
So, I'm having an appointment with my personal trainer tomorrow evening. His name is Artur. :ph34r:
This threat's worthless withou....
I agree with the consensus but would argue for a rowing machine too. But you're best off doing exercise to some end. Learn to play tennis, go rowing, go swimming or something grinding out your health in a gym is just sadmaking.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 18, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 18, 2011, 11:15:17 AM
So, I'm having an appointment with my personal trainer tomorrow evening. His name is Artur. :ph34r:
This threat's worthless withou....
I agree with the consensus but would argue for a rowing machine too. But you're best off doing exercise to some end. Learn to play tennis, go rowing, go swimming or something grinding out your health in a gym is just sadmaking.
The problem is usually one of time.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 18, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
I agree with the consensus but would argue for a rowing machine too. But you're best off doing exercise to some end. Learn to play tennis, go rowing, go swimming or something grinding out your health in a gym is just sadmaking.
When I was working out in a gymn I found the sight of large numbers of women in tight fitting clothing to be very entertaining and motivating.
Speaking of sports, basketball is a great aerobic workout. Also gives you bulging shoulder muscles, tres sexy. Steep learning curve though. Are there any places in the world that give adult beginner basketball lessons?
Mart, if you want fit gay manspiration, check out my friend Heath on Facebook. He hardly has his shirt on on any of his photos and occasionally does podium dancing in clubs! I can ask him what his routine is if you want.
Quote from: Martinus on April 17, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
What would you say is more cost effective and better in instilling discipline?
If you want to spend the money on a constant basis a PT.
The rowing or even better an elliptical trainer, will pay for it self in the long run. If you use it regulary and get on a good self training program.
Actually, there's a lot to be said for also having some home cardio equipment you can use in front of the TV when you've had too busy a day to get to the gym or see your trainer. I've got an exercise bike I hop on for half an hour if I haven't had the chance to do anything else, and some tough exercise DVDs.
Oh and Mart, buy Tim Ferris' "Four Hour Body". There's some real insights among the bullshit, but it's perfect for a quick-win addict like you :D
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2011, 04:21:33 AM
If you want to spend the money on a constant basis a PT.
The rowing or even better an elliptical trainer, will pay for it self in the long run. If you use it regulary and get on a good self training program.
Using it regularly is just the problem. From what i've seen, nine times out of ten, a home rowing machine ends up as a really fancy clothes hanger. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on April 19, 2011, 08:00:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2011, 04:21:33 AM
If you want to spend the money on a constant basis a PT.
The rowing or even better an elliptical trainer, will pay for it self in the long run. If you use it regulary and get on a good self training program.
Using it regularly is just the problem. From what i've seen, nine times out of ten, a home rowing machine ends up as a really fancy clothes hanger. ;)
Yep. Marti has already said he lacks discipline. A rowing machine is just going to be an expensive piece of furniture for him.
So, met with the trainer. Apparently I'm fat :cry: (I have 24% body fat, despite having a relatively good BMI).
So I'm gonna train on Saturdays, Sundays and Wednesdays. :huh:
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
Apparently I'm fat :cry: (I have 24% body fat, despite having a relatively good BMI).
HA! I knew it.
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