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Poll
Question: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Option 1: Yes votes: 5
Option 2: No votes: 17
Option 3: Should have fed them antifreeze and razor blades votes: 3
Title: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 11, 2011, 11:39:40 AM
Several months ago, some people finally bought the house next door, which had been sitting empty for a long time. Probably half the houses on my street have been vacant for a while because they are in that price range where the subprime people could buy them if they stretched their budgets and got a 5 year ARM back in 2005. I, however, deliberately bought less house than I could afford back then, with a 30 year fixed, and my household income has gone up 50% since then. So it's been a wonderfully lonely street for a while. The house on the other side is a rental that's also been vacant for some time.

Anyway, the new neighbors seem like nice people. Kinda young. The dude complements my OSU flag when I fly it on Saturdays in the fall. One of their fathers (the girl's I think) came to stay there for a few weeks when they first moved in and made a bunch of improvements. So overall, they seem fine.

But their dogs won't shut the fuck up. Two little yappy motherfuckers. Every time I open my own door it sets them off. God forbid I decide to let my cat go in the back yard for a while. It was unending torment. Until my wife bought a Dazer.

http://www.amazon.com/DAZER-II-Ultrasonic-Dog-Deterrent/dp/B000E7KVQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302539501&sr=8-1

It's basically a directional hypersonic sound emitter that works like a dog whistle. We keep it next to the door, and when the dogs bark, point it their way and let 'er rip. Been doing this for about two months now, and it's completely worked. If the dogs start barking, we don't even have to use the thing anymore. If they hear our door open, they shut up.

Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Slargos on April 11, 2011, 11:46:45 AM
Fair game.
Nuff said.

I should perhaps append "As long as you know what you're doing" which it sounds like you do.  :hmm:

Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: HVC on April 11, 2011, 11:51:13 AM
when your neighbours get chopped up by intruders becasue the dogs didn't warn them you'll feel just a tad guilty :lol:
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Caliga on April 11, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
I don't see the problem.  If the sound waves cross your property line, I think it's ok to take action. :)
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: DGuller on April 11, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
I think it is wrong.  Then again, it's also wrong for the dude'd dog to be a nuisance to neighbors.  It's a wash.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Barrister on April 11, 2011, 12:30:20 PM
Interesting.  Our dogs bark.  It wasn't a huge deal in Yukon where we had a fairly big property, and everybody else owned dogs, but it's not so welcome now in the city.

I may just put in an order for this...   :ph34r:
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
Not at all wrong. I've been tempted to get a taser for those critters. This is probably better.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
I'd be tempted to do the same; not sure if I would. But I hate that mindless yipping of dogs. Dogs barking like that for nothing is a hassle, even though it's limited and not all the time. Sitting in your house, and the dogs go off yapping for a while over someone walking down the street, or some other reason. Those dogs need training or something. Worse is dogs just barking when left out in the yard, waiting for the owners to come home. In that case either let the neighbors know (they may not even be aware that the dog barks constantly when they're not home.) I think you can also call the police and complain; it's probably a disturbance of some kind if a dog barks all the time.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 11, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
That's awesome.
If you're friendly with the neighbors, you could bring it up with them. Perhaps not like "We've been shooting hypersonic soundwaves at your annoying yappy dogs for the past two months." but perhaps in a more diplomatic manner, like "Hey, I've heard of these great new soundwave things that are useful for training dogs not to bark!"
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 01:57:37 PM
I just bought this to keep critters out of my veggie garden. Haven't used it yet so I don't know how well it works, but there are quite a few like this on the market so I assume such devices work pretty well. Senses animals within 30 feet, and sends out a sound that humans can't hear but that animals don't like.

http://www.asseenontvpromo.com/lawn-and-garden/solar-animal-repeller/
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
God I hate those things. Silent to humans my ass.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: The Brain on April 11, 2011, 02:21:59 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 11, 2011, 11:39:40 AM
Several months ago, some people finally bought the house next door, which had been sitting empty for a long time. Probably half the houses on my street have been vacant for a while because they are in that price range where the subprime people could buy them if they stretched their budgets and got a 5 year ARM back in 2005. I, however, deliberately bought less house than I could afford back then, with a 30 year fixed, and my household income has gone up 50% since then. So it's been a wonderfully lonely street for a while. The house on the other side is a rental that's also been vacant for some time.

Anyway, the new neighbors seem like nice people. Kinda young. The dude complements my OSU flag when I fly it on Saturdays in the fall. One of their fathers (the girl's I think) came to stay there for a few weeks when they first moved in and made a bunch of improvements. So overall, they seem fine.

But their dogs won't shut the fuck up. Two little yappy motherfuckers. Every time I open my own door it sets them off. God forbid I decide to let my cat go in the back yard for a while. It was unending torment. Until my wife bought a Dazer.

http://www.amazon.com/DAZER-II-Ultrasonic-Dog-Deterrent/dp/B000E7KVQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302539501&sr=8-1

It's basically a directional hypersonic sound emitter that works like a dog whistle. We keep it next to the door, and when the dogs bark, point it their way and let 'er rip. Been doing this for about two months now, and it's completely worked. If the dogs start barking, we don't even have to use the thing anymore. If they hear our door open, they shut up.

It's OK. You bring it, you discipline it. And when they fail you can do as you please.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
God I hate those things. Silent to humans my ass.
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not convinced that Maximus isn't a visitor from outer space.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: The Brain on April 11, 2011, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
God I hate those things. Silent to humans my ass.

My ass certainly isn't.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:
I have this sense like really bad tinnitus when I'm near them. If it doesn't bother you, rock on. I don't plan to be in your garden any time soon.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Personally don't see anything wrong with it, but, as is the case with beating your neighbours' kids, some control freaks may have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:
I have this sense like really bad tinnitus when I'm near them. If it doesn't bother you, rock on. I don't plan to be in your garden any time soon.
I've been hit with Tinnitus for the past five months or so. That's what I was wondering; I don't want to do anything that will aggravate that.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 03:21:53 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:
I have this sense like really bad tinnitus when I'm near them. If it doesn't bother you, rock on. I don't plan to be in your garden any time soon.
Some sonic repellents are adjustable depending on what critters being targeted. I did read that to repel deer the sound used might be heard by humans too. That might be why you hear it, don't know.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 11, 2011, 03:30:52 PM
At least you didn't use the old Harlan county way of dealing with noisy dogs. Ground up glass in a ball of meat.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Iormlund on April 11, 2011, 03:33:36 PM
I voted for using antifreeze ... on the neighbours.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Josquius on April 11, 2011, 03:37:58 PM
Sounds interesting, I need to figure a way to make my dog shut up.

Don't think thats illegal no, you're just making a noise on your property, the dog next door just happens to hear it.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 04:33:10 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 03:21:53 PM
Some sonic repellents are adjustable depending on what critters being targeted. I did read that to repel deer the sound used might be heard by humans too. That might be why you hear it, don't know.
The ones I've heard were for repelling rodents.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: The Brain on April 11, 2011, 04:35:56 PM
So if I want to sonic the hedgehog what should I use?
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Sega Genesis
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: viper37 on April 12, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
it would be nice, but the range is insufficient at 15'.  I'd need something closer to 100ft for the neighbour's dog.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: derspiess on April 12, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
God I hate those things. Silent to humans my ass.
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:

I forget which product it was, but there was one that came out a few years ago that was every bit as painful for human ears as it was for animals'. 
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: KRonn on April 12, 2011, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 12, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 11, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 11, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
God I hate those things. Silent to humans my ass.
Humans can hear them? If so and it causes a problem for people, I won't use it. I have some inner ear problems and don't want to mess around.   :huh:

I forget which product it was, but there was one that came out a few years ago that was every bit as painful for human ears as it was for animals'.
That's no good....    :huh:
Title: Re: Is it wrong to train your neighbors' dogs without them knowing?
Post by: viper37 on April 12, 2011, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 11, 2011, 11:39:40 AM
Several months ago, some people finally bought the house next door, which had been sitting empty for a long time. Probably half the houses on my street have been vacant for a while because they are in that price range where the subprime people could buy them if they stretched their budgets and got a 5 year ARM back in 2005. I, however, deliberately bought less house than I could afford back then, with a 30 year fixed, and my household income has gone up 50% since then. So it's been a wonderfully lonely street for a while. The house on the other side is a rental that's also been vacant for some time.

Anyway, the new neighbors seem like nice people. Kinda young. The dude complements my OSU flag when I fly it on Saturdays in the fall. One of their fathers (the girl's I think) came to stay there for a few weeks when they first moved in and made a bunch of improvements. So overall, they seem fine.

But their dogs won't shut the fuck up. Two little yappy motherfuckers. Every time I open my own door it sets them off. God forbid I decide to let my cat go in the back yard for a while. It was unending torment. Until my wife bought a Dazer.

http://www.amazon.com/DAZER-II-Ultrasonic-Dog-Deterrent/dp/B000E7KVQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302539501&sr=8-1

It's basically a directional hypersonic sound emitter that works like a dog whistle. We keep it next to the door, and when the dogs bark, point it their way and let 'er rip. Been doing this for about two months now, and it's completely worked. If the dogs start barking, we don't even have to use the thing anymore. If they hear our door open, they shut up.


oh, btw, it's not wrong if you don't harm the dogs :)