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Title: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Kid sounds like he has some serious mental problems.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_child_pepper_sprayed
QuoteColorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8

By SHEILA V KUMAR, Associated Press – Thu Apr 7, 10:45 am ET

DENVER – The staff at the Colorado elementary school said no one could calm 8-year-old Aidan Elliott.

He had just thrown a TV and chairs and was now trying to use a cart to bust through a door to an office where teachers had taken some young students for safety.

They called the police.

The officers found him with a foot-long piece of wood trim with a knife-like point in one hand and a cardboard box in the other.

"Come get me, f-----," he said.

When they couldn't calm him down, one squirted Aidan with pepper spray. He blocked it with the cardboard box.

A second squirt hit the youngster in the side of the head, and down he went, according to an account of the Feb. 22 standoff in a police report first obtained by KUSA-TV.

Aidan and his mother went on national talk shows on Wednesday to say using pepper spray on an unruly 8-year-old was too much.

Police in the Denver suburb of Lakewood and officials at Glennon Heights Elementary in Lakewood say it could've been worse.

"Had the officers chosen to be hands-on with him, the potential for him getting some type of injury and, maybe even officers, would have been much higher," police spokesman Steve Davis said.

"It was the best choice made," he said.

It wasn't the first time officers had been called to pacify Aidan, Davis said. They'd been able to talk him down in two other incidents.

Mandy Elliott said she wished authorities had chosen to talk him down in the latest incident. She also wanted police to get special training in dealing with children. Aidan has since transferred to another school.

When asked about the pepper spray and what he did, Aidan said: "I kind of deserved it."

Aidan started acting up while on the bus to school, the police report said. He began screaming and then continued after breakfast while throwing chairs at his teachers.

"He was being very aggressive, very violent," said Melissa Reeves, the school district spokeswoman.

There were eight students with Aidan in the classroom, Reeves said, and teachers removed them after he became violent. They barricaded themselves in an office, as he tried to bust in, Davis said.

Aidan was swearing and shouting expletives at his teachers and threatening them, Davis said. He taunted police when they arrived.

"I wanted to make something sharp, like if they came out, `cause I was so mad at them," the boy said on NBC's "Today" show. "I was going to try to whack them with it."

After hitting him with the second squirt, officers took Aidan outside for some fresh air to help dissipate the spray. Paramedics were treating his red, irritated face with cool water when his mother arrived.

According to the report, Mandy Elliott asked her son what he did.

When he told her he had been hit with pepper spray, she is quoted as saying, "Well, you probably deserved it."
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

Actually, since both the kid and the mom said that he probably deserved it, I don't see why they'd go talk shows to complain about it.  Oh, wait, those shows pay you to appear, don't they?  And telling us what we already know--that the kid deserved it--isn't a story, is it?
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: katmai on April 09, 2011, 05:27:55 AM
I wish we could pepper spray Tim. :(
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: lustindarkness on April 09, 2011, 05:42:30 AM
No one tried to tackle him?
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Scipio on April 09, 2011, 06:36:38 AM
You know, when you pull a pointed stick, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage....
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
Quote from: Scipio on April 09, 2011, 06:36:38 AM
You know, when you pull a pointed stick, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage....

Oh, I think he put himself at a disadvantage when he provoked a physical response from a gaggle of pigs weighing in at probably 20 times himself. The stick had nothing to do with it.  :P

Brave kid, though.

I always find these types of stories intriguing. What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2011, 06:59:42 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2011, 05:27:55 AM
I wish we could pepper spray Tim. :(

Neil has the squirt bottle. HE JUST WON'T SPRAY HIM.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Martinus on April 09, 2011, 07:03:21 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?

He just wouldn't fucking listen.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Zeus on April 09, 2011, 07:26:05 AM
The police shoulda used Bear Mace.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Norgy on April 09, 2011, 08:13:52 AM
Mandatory abortions can save America.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 09, 2011, 07:03:21 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?

He just wouldn't fucking listen.

Oh I don't doubt that they felt this was necessary, I'm talking about how this society got to the point where 8 year olds are pepper sprayed in general, not this particular 8 year old.

I've never heard of anything like it in Sweden.

We do get the odd 14 year old moped hooligan run down by a cop car while trying to evade the police but there's a whole lot of difference between an 8 year old and a 14 year old.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2011, 08:35:28 AM
I wonder if Squeelus is wondering where this cop was when he was being chased down by a gang of 5th graders?
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: garbon on April 09, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?

Cops probably would have been sued if they caused any injuries while trying to manhandle him.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: garbon on April 09, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Anyway, did he get any psych evals?
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 09, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.

True, the police 9mm would be overkill.
Cops should carry .22 derringers for use on children and midgets.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 09, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.

True, the police 9mm would be overkill.
Cops should carry .22 derringers for use on children and midgets.

:lol:

This place.. is a cauldron filled with rainbows and puppies and ponies.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Kleves on April 09, 2011, 09:54:07 AM
QuoteHe had just thrown a TV and chairs and was now trying to use a cart to bust through a door to an office where teachers had taken some young students for safety.
You won't like him when he's angry. TODDLER SMASH!
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 09, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.

True, the police 9mm would be overkill.
Cops should carry .22 derringers for use on children and midgets.

:lol:

This place.. is a cauldron filled with rainbows and puppies and ponies.
You sure have a lot of gall criticizing others on that subject.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 09, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.

True, the police 9mm would be overkill.
Cops should carry .22 derringers for use on children and midgets.

:lol:

This place.. is a cauldron filled with rainbows and puppies and ponies.
You sure have a lot of gall criticizing others on that subject.

What? What'd I do?  :huh:
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: DGuller on April 09, 2011, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
The should have tazed him.  Or just shot him.

:rolleyes: He's 8.
:huh: If anything, bullets would be more effective on an 8 year old.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Norgy on April 09, 2011, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2011, 08:35:28 AM
I wonder if Squeelus is wondering where this cop was when he was being chased down by a gang of 5th graders?

^_^
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: LaCroix on April 09, 2011, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Cops probably would have been sued if they caused any injuries while trying to manhandle him.

:yes: better to spray and pray than deal with a volatile child with possibly insane parents
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2011, 04:11:38 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
We do get the odd 14 year old moped hooligan run down by a cop car while trying to evade the police but there's a whole lot of difference between an 8 year old and a 14 year old.

Americans are precocious.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 09, 2011, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
Quote from: Scipio on April 09, 2011, 06:36:38 AM
You know, when you pull a pointed stick, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage....

Oh, I think he put himself at a disadvantage when he provoked a physical response from a gaggle of pigs weighing in at probably 20 times himself. The stick had nothing to do with it.  :P

Brave kid, though.

I always find these types of stories intriguing. What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?

Pepperspraying an 8 year old > Getting bitten by an 8 year old.

I really wish I met you on the street 20 years ago, Slargs.  We would've done quite a number on your dumb ass.  You'd have wished I peppersprayed you.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 10, 2011, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 09, 2011, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 09, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
Quote from: Scipio on April 09, 2011, 06:36:38 AM
You know, when you pull a pointed stick, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage....

Oh, I think he put himself at a disadvantage when he provoked a physical response from a gaggle of pigs weighing in at probably 20 times himself. The stick had nothing to do with it.  :P

Brave kid, though.

I always find these types of stories intriguing. What did America do wrong that you have to pepper-spray 8 year olds?

Pepperspraying an 8 year old > Getting bitten by an 8 year old.

I really wish I met you on the street 20 years ago, Slargs.  We would've done quite a number on your dumb ass.  You'd have wished I peppersprayed you.

Psychopath much?  :huh:

Dipping your wick in negro poontang has addled your brittle mind.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
All I'd need would be a blackjack, a phone book and your head.  You'd want to jam Tylenol bottles in your eyes after the second hit.

And then, I'd find a Jew to play the Bad Cop.  Just for you.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2011, 07:15:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
All I'd need would be a blackjack, a phone book and your head.  You'd want to jam Tylenol bottles in your eyes after the second hit.

And then, I'd find a Jew to play the Bad Cop.  Just for you.
Made me think of a TR story I just read. When he was NYC police commissioner he assigned a squad of Jewish cops to protect some crazy preacher who was calling for a pogrom.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 10, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
All I'd need would be a blackjack, a phone book and your head.  You'd want to jam Tylenol bottles in your eyes after the second hit.

And then, I'd find a Jew to play the Bad Cop.  Just for you.

Calm down, killer. The rate you're going, you'll pop a vein and then where will we be?  :(
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 10, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
All I'd need would be a blackjack, a phone book and your head.  You'd want to jam Tylenol bottles in your eyes after the second hit.

And then, I'd find a Jew to play the Bad Cop.  Just for you.

Calm down, killer. The rate you're going, you'll pop a vein and then where will we be?  :(

Sorry, can't hear you. Random Hearts is on.
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Slargos on April 10, 2011, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 10, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
All I'd need would be a blackjack, a phone book and your head.  You'd want to jam Tylenol bottles in your eyes after the second hit.

And then, I'd find a Jew to play the Bad Cop.  Just for you.

Calm down, killer. The rate you're going, you'll pop a vein and then where will we be?  :(

Sorry, can't hear you. Random Hearts is on.

From the synopsis, it sounds familiar, but I can't recall it from the name or the poster. Will have to check it out. Thanks.  :hug:
Title: Re: Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8
Post by: Razgovory on April 10, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
I have a feeling that young Mr. Elliott is going to have many similar experiences in his life.