Poll
People wonder why some of us loathe you. Example # 55.
I should adopt you.
Yamato had that too. Except in anime. I don't know what that means.
I don't think I would try and tell grumbler what he is asking. Just a thought. :secret:
I would enjoy ensuing debate :w00t:
I'm not sure 'debate' is the right word. :yawn:
The one time it coulda be a contender, Kurita runs off.
That's the first time I've actually seen the opera, had only heard the music before. Don't see what's so bad about it.
A legend is a tale told about something or someone performing in a "more than human" fashion. Not much to say about Hood as a warship other than that it died spectacularly. Informed voters aren't likely to vote for that ahead of a ship with many more battle honors.
You could make Ark Royal a write-in, if you'd like. That's certainly justifiable. Other write-ins are also possible; I just threw out few choices to start a conversation.
He's your puppy.
Was she hott?
We took them, and tossed them down a well.
Are you trying to make me want to do this to you?:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.halloweenstore.com%2FMerchant2%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Frubies%2F68723.jpg&hash=c945cdd764ba1c82f4fea29c214d73e743062f0e)
Never doubt my hatred for Neil and CdM.
clearly i would be in the negative numbers if we had.
The Missouri was one of the longer serving ships. Not many battleships have been armed with nukes. Anyway, I voted for the the Big E. I'm not even a naval fan, but I know about that one.
I have never killed anybody with a knife.
You will be my first, if you keep pocking my eye with your little stick.
Now, if we were talking my lower knife, the one 6 inches long, then I would have to tell you that even though I haven't killed anybody with it either, I have hurt a lot of feelings. Sadly, you are far too ugly for me to try to penetrate your body with my 6 inches knife. I reserve this one for Garbon, with whom I remain deeply infatuated.
I actually disagree, just because Vinson is so unknown that it just sounds like a name that you don't even know what it means one way or the other.
I like it when they name ships after obscure naval heroes because then you get a cool little back story with it. With Vinson all you get is the fact that he voted yes a bunch of times.
I was thinking more along the lines of just BBs, from the Yamato tangent.
I think a more innocuous part of it is that it's really easy to keep track of the entire German surface fleet in your head, and did so little that their few sensational exploits are equally easy to remember.
Anyway, of course I chose CV-6. Could it have been any other way?
I'd like to give an honorable mention to the Zuikaku, as probably the closest Japanese equivalent to the Enterprise, although necessarily less successful--she didn't survive, but she persevered the longest, and made a romantic if ultimately futile sacrifice, destroyed after being required to fight beyond all endurance and reason as the only fleet carrier in the decoy force at Leyte.
On the plus side for Zuikaku...
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd6%2FUSS_enterprise-bomb_hit-Bat_eastern_Solomons.jpg&hash=672221c8e4b1dd0dfe538ed1b3c86dd09d255a2e)
You are not fun anymore.
You are suppossed to shoot back.
At least tell me that there are too many words for it to mean "Fuck CdM".
And I was suppossed to tell you that it actually means "Fuck that faggot dickless pussy fuck of CdM", but that I gave you the short version because I didn't want to hurt your feelings.
Anyway. The sign ain't nothing interesting. Just a Sa'ar 5 with an indepence day banner. "The Sea Corp best desires to the State of Israel". Well, we don't use capital letters in hebrew, and I'm probably wrong at translating "desires" literally, since in this case it means something like "wishes", and you doubtless gonna make a tasteless joke about the sea corp having sexual desires for the rest of the male population in the country. Also, the western media always translate "sea corp" as "Navy", even though the israeli navy, and the air force for that matter (air corp), are integral parts of the IDF and not a separate service as in the US.
Question: Which was the most legendary warship in history?
Option 1: 
votes: 12
votes: 12
Option 2: 
votes: 23
votes: 23
Option 3: 
votes: 5
votes: 5
Title: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 01:48:26 AM
Post by: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 01:48:26 AM
Anyone who knows anything about naval history knows that these are the candidates for "the most legendary warships in history" but the conundrum remains: which of them is "the most legendary?"
Enterprise has the most "opposite number" silhouettes painted on the superstructure, at 2.5 (Akagi, Kaga, and half of Hiryu) in the most decisive naval battle in history, but that's because all of Warspite's opposite numbers fled faster than she could chase them.
Warspite has 14 battle honors, Enterprise 20 battle stars.
I'm inclined towards Warspite because I am an ABC fan ("It takes three years to build a ship; it takes three centuries to build a tradition - the Navy will go in") and he fiercely loved that ship, but I will listen to arguments otherwise.
Enterprise has the most "opposite number" silhouettes painted on the superstructure, at 2.5 (Akagi, Kaga, and half of Hiryu) in the most decisive naval battle in history, but that's because all of Warspite's opposite numbers fled faster than she could chase them.
Warspite has 14 battle honors, Enterprise 20 battle stars.
I'm inclined towards Warspite because I am an ABC fan ("It takes three years to build a ship; it takes three centuries to build a tradition - the Navy will go in") and he fiercely loved that ship, but I will listen to arguments otherwise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: The Brain on April 02, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
Post by: The Brain on April 02, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
Are you drunk?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Norgy on April 02, 2011, 03:52:36 AM
Post by: Norgy on April 02, 2011, 03:52:36 AM
Warspite was active in the Norwegian campaign in 1940, I believe and it thus gets my vote, since I am clueless. :showoff:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Warspite on April 02, 2011, 04:28:35 AM
Post by: Warspite on April 02, 2011, 04:28:35 AM
I voted Warspite mainly for the reason that she survived the last great dreadnought battle of Jutland, where Britain won the strategic victory at sea so desperately needed, while she also was there two decades later to pound the coast of Normandy as the great Allied Liberation effort began.
But it's a very close run thing with Enterprise for sure.
But it's a very close run thing with Enterprise for sure.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Josquius on April 02, 2011, 06:10:51 AM
Post by: Josquius on April 02, 2011, 06:10:51 AM
Victory. :frog:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Slargos on April 02, 2011, 06:12:25 AM
Post by: Slargos on April 02, 2011, 06:12:25 AM
Bismarck. :pickelhaube:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 02, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 02, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Warspite adds more to discussions on Languish, but he's never been in outer space. Gotta go Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2011, 07:25:47 AM
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2011, 07:25:47 AM
Warspite is a fine selection (what didn't she do!), but I have to lean towards Enterprise for its total score card. Every major operation in the Pacific, first on the offensive after Pearl, last flattop standing after Santa Cruz, and Doolittle to boot.
For sheer Brit balls, I go with the HMS Glowworm.
For sheer Brit balls, I go with the HMS Glowworm.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
Enterprise had several famous starships named after her. Someone had to say it. So there.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:37:51 AM
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:37:51 AM
Thunderchild! :punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb83Wl2NI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb83Wl2NI
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AM
Post by: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AM
This is an excellent thread, and a tough question. I could definitely see an argument for Enterprise. Her story is the story of the whole Pacific War, after all. She was the 'lucky ship' who got through it all, hardly slowing down when bombed or kamikazed, unlike the Saratoga.
I think I'm leaning a little towards the Warspite. For one thing, I'm a bit of a dreadnought partisan, and Warspite had the most dramatic role in the greatest dreadnought battle of all time. Narvik, shooting it out with the Italians in the Med, D-Day, fighting on even after the Germans wrecked X turret. She had a 26,000-yard hit on an Italian dreadnought, she was Cunningham's 'Grand Old Lady' and she resisted being led to the scrapyards at the end. She had a long and glorious history in a glorious age of naval warfare.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention? I mean, these two have the most formidable reps since the adoption of steam, but Victory has to be the greatest warship of the wooden era.
I think I'm leaning a little towards the Warspite. For one thing, I'm a bit of a dreadnought partisan, and Warspite had the most dramatic role in the greatest dreadnought battle of all time. Narvik, shooting it out with the Italians in the Med, D-Day, fighting on even after the Germans wrecked X turret. She had a 26,000-yard hit on an Italian dreadnought, she was Cunningham's 'Grand Old Lady' and she resisted being led to the scrapyards at the end. She had a long and glorious history in a glorious age of naval warfare.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention? I mean, these two have the most formidable reps since the adoption of steam, but Victory has to be the greatest warship of the wooden era.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: katmai on April 02, 2011, 09:02:07 AM
Post by: katmai on April 02, 2011, 09:02:07 AM
Enterprise. anyone who votes differently is a communist and a pussy.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 09:14:53 AM
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:37:51 AM
Thunderchild! :punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb83Wl2NI
People wonder why some of us loathe you. Example # 55.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on April 02, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on April 02, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
I'm not voting on this one, completely unable to decide :hmm:
I will second Neil though and say that Victory is the ship that comes to mind when I think of "the greatest warship". But that may be mere sentiment, Nelson was a childhood hero of mine.
I will second Neil though and say that Victory is the ship that comes to mind when I think of "the greatest warship". But that may be mere sentiment, Nelson was a childhood hero of mine.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 09:43:10 AM
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 09:43:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:37:51 AMTim. This is monstrous. Monstrous.
Thunderchild! :punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb83Wl2NI
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 09:44:03 AM
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 09:44:03 AM
Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds sucks.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 02, 2011, 11:27:44 AM
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 02, 2011, 11:27:44 AM
It's "These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise", not "starship Warspite".
And I love Jeff Wayne's War of the Wolds. :mad:
And I love Jeff Wayne's War of the Wolds. :mad:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
Why?! Just that one glimpse made me want to throw up. Shit.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
Why?! Just that one glimpse made me want to throw up. Shit.
I should adopt you.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Post by: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AMYes. Victory did nothing special. Of course, it is hard to stand out when one sails in a fleet of dozens of ships, but there you have it.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 02, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 02, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
Enterprise had several famous starships named after her. Someone had to say it. So there.
Yamato had that too. Except in anime. I don't know what that means.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Meh, Yamato didn't do jack shit except get sunk fairly easily.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Kleves on April 02, 2011, 04:41:01 PM
Post by: Kleves on April 02, 2011, 04:41:01 PM
The Big E.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Josquius on April 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PM
Post by: Josquius on April 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PMYou're asking which is the most legendary though, not which accomplished the most through its own power.Quote from: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AMYes. Victory did nothing special. Of course, it is hard to stand out when one sails in a fleet of dozens of ships, but there you have it.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
Post by: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PMQuote from: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PMYou're asking which is the most legendary though, not which accomplished the most through its own power.Quote from: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AMYes. Victory did nothing special. Of course, it is hard to stand out when one sails in a fleet of dozens of ships, but there you have it.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention?
I don't think I would try and tell grumbler what he is asking. Just a thought. :secret:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: szmik on April 02, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: szmik on April 02, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:16:57 PMQuote from: Tyr on April 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PMQuote from: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PMYou're asking which is the most legendary though, not which accomplished the most through its own power.Quote from: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AMYes. Victory did nothing special. Of course, it is hard to stand out when one sails in a fleet of dozens of ships, but there you have it.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention?
I don't think I would try and tell grumbler what he is asking. Just a thought. :secret:
I would enjoy ensuing debate :w00t:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
Post by: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: szmik on April 02, 2011, 05:22:00 PMQuote from: sbr on April 02, 2011, 05:16:57 PMQuote from: Tyr on April 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PMQuote from: grumbler on April 02, 2011, 03:32:54 PMYou're asking which is the most legendary though, not which accomplished the most through its own power.Quote from: Neil on April 02, 2011, 08:21:29 AMYes. Victory did nothing special. Of course, it is hard to stand out when one sails in a fleet of dozens of ships, but there you have it.
Are you sure that Victory doesn't rate a mention?
I don't think I would try and tell grumbler what he is asking. Just a thought. :secret:
I would enjoy ensuing debate :w00t:
I'm not sure 'debate' is the right word. :yawn:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 06:41:30 PM
Post by: Ed Anger on April 02, 2011, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Meh, Yamato didn't do jack shit except get sunk fairly easily.
The one time it coulda be a contender, Kurita runs off.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:07:49 PM
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2011, 07:07:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 12:32:27 PMBecause the music is awesome. :contract:
Why?! Just that one glimpse made me want to throw up. Shit.
That's the first time I've actually seen the opera, had only heard the music before. Don't see what's so bad about it.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: dps on April 02, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Post by: dps on April 02, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Heck, Warspite isn't even the most legendary British warship of WWII. I'd put both the Ark Royal and the Hood at least ahead of her, maybe others.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 03, 2011, 04:17:39 AM
Post by: grumbler on April 03, 2011, 04:17:39 AM
Quote from: dps on April 02, 2011, 07:25:32 PMI chose to use "legendary" rather than "famous" in an attempt to get past the fact that Hood and Ark Royal were more famous in their time, and Victory is today.
Heck, Warspite isn't even the most legendary British warship of WWII. I'd put both the Ark Royal and the Hood at least ahead of her, maybe others.
A legend is a tale told about something or someone performing in a "more than human" fashion. Not much to say about Hood as a warship other than that it died spectacularly. Informed voters aren't likely to vote for that ahead of a ship with many more battle honors.
You could make Ark Royal a write-in, if you'd like. That's certainly justifiable. Other write-ins are also possible; I just threw out few choices to start a conversation.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Norgy on April 03, 2011, 04:26:11 AM
Post by: Norgy on April 03, 2011, 04:26:11 AM
The Hood, the Tirpitz and definitely the Graf Zeppelin are more known for what they could have been, aren't they?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 03, 2011, 04:26:11 AMThe Hood is most known for its long, successful career showing the flag in the interwar period, for being a very beautiful warship, for sinking the crappy French Navy and for a brief gun duel with the Bismarck ending in spectacular death. Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin are relatively well-known because they were German, and a large subset of WWII fans love German tech.
The Hood, the Tirpitz and definitely the Graf Zeppelin are more known for what they could have been, aren't they?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Josquius on April 03, 2011, 09:54:01 AM
Post by: Josquius on April 03, 2011, 09:54:01 AM
The Hood isn't too well known outside folk with a decent interest in history I think. Fairly well known but not the most legendary.
For legendary ships which lots of people know- Mary Rose, Warrior (despite the fact they did nothing), Victory, Ark Royal, Dreadnought.
For legendary ships which lots of people know- Mary Rose, Warrior (despite the fact they did nothing), Victory, Ark Royal, Dreadnought.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 03, 2011, 04:17:39 AMI'm not sure that Ark Royal is in the same class as Enterprise though. They had some great moments, and the Bismarck chase was legendary, but Midway was not only legendary, but had a real and substantial effect on the war. Enterprise and Warspite fought the whole war long, and even the Hood had a glorious hero's death, but Ark Royal was murdered by a wretched submarine. It's cool that Ark Royal was involved in the first U-boat kill of the war and got the first British air kill of the war, but I just don't think it rates with the two choices in the poll.
You could make Ark Royal a write-in, if you'd like. That's certainly justifiable. Other write-ins are also possible; I just threw out few choices to start a conversation.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
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Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 03, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 03, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
Jews know all about winning. :Joos
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PM
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PM
Seriously though, Warspite was prone to steering difficulties after Jutland, so I voted Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 03, 2011, 06:19:56 PM
Post by: grumbler on April 03, 2011, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PM:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
Seriously though, Warspite was prone to steering difficulties after Jutland, so I voted Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PMSometimes I wonder if I should let CdM throw you in a sack and bash you against a wall or something.
Seriously though, Warspite was prone to steering difficulties after Jutland, so I voted Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2011, 07:40:56 PM
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2011, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 06:38:05 PMQuote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PMSometimes I wonder if I should let CdM throw you in a sack and bash you against a wall or something.
Seriously though, Warspite was prone to steering difficulties after Jutland, so I voted Enterprise.
He's your puppy.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 06:38:05 PMI like my ships to go in a straight line, not crash into others at the dock. :sleep:Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 06:18:53 PMSometimes I wonder if I should let CdM throw you in a sack and bash you against a wall or something.
Seriously though, Warspite was prone to steering difficulties after Jutland, so I voted Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PMI like my naval analysis not to be fucking retarded, as opposed to you telling me that you like the Yamato best because of the anime, or you like the Bismarck because the captain had pretty blue eyes.
I like my ships to go in a straight line, not crash into others at the dock. :sleep:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 08:53:16 PMQuote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PMI like my naval analysis not to be fucking retarded, as opposed to you telling me that you like the Yamato best because of the anime, or you like the Bismarck because the captain had pretty blue eyes.
I like my ships to go in a straight line, not crash into others at the dock. :sleep:
Was she hott?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:09:59 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:09:59 PM
Wait a minute. Didn't I have like 3000 posts or so in my post count?
What the fuck happened?
What the fuck happened?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
And that was not my last signature!
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Moldy's hard drive blew up Seeb.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:08:25 PMHe was a guy, a committed Nazi, and a real warrior. He would have defeated you and thrown you into an oven.Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 08:53:16 PMWas she hott?Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PMI like my naval analysis not to be fucking retarded, as opposed to you telling me that you like the Yamato best because of the anime, or you like the Bismarck because the captain had pretty blue eyes.
I like my ships to go in a straight line, not crash into others at the dock. :sleep:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2011, 10:24:32 PM
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2011, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:09:59 PM
Wait a minute. Didn't I have like 3000 posts or so in my post count?
What the fuck happened?
We took them, and tossed them down a well.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 10:20:06 PMQuote from: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:08:25 PMHe was a guy, a committed Nazi, and a real warrior. He would have defeated you and thrown you into an oven.Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 08:53:16 PMWas she hott?Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 03, 2011, 07:41:35 PMI like my naval analysis not to be fucking retarded, as opposed to you telling me that you like the Yamato best because of the anime, or you like the Bismarck because the captain had pretty blue eyes.
I like my ships to go in a straight line, not crash into others at the dock. :sleep:
Are you trying to make me want to do this to you?:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.halloweenstore.com%2FMerchant2%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Frubies%2F68723.jpg&hash=c945cdd764ba1c82f4fea29c214d73e743062f0e)
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 03, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 03, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
You love him too much to ever do that. :lol:
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
Post by: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 03, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
You love him too much to ever do that. :lol:
Never doubt my hatred for Neil and CdM.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Berkut on April 03, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
Post by: Berkut on April 03, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
We deleted all the stunningly idiotic ones.
Lucky for you we left only the marginally dense.
Lucky for you we left only the marginally dense.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: katmai on April 03, 2011, 11:31:04 PM
Post by: katmai on April 03, 2011, 11:31:04 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 03, 2011, 11:29:49 PM:huh:
We deleted all the stunningly idiotic ones.
Lucky for you we left only the marginally dense.
clearly i would be in the negative numbers if we had.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
Post by: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
USS Texas
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Though it's more "forgotten glory" than "legendary".
If it's popular legend, and not just naval grognards...then it would probably be USS Missouri. Though Missouri got a rather late start.
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Though it's more "forgotten glory" than "legendary".
If it's popular legend, and not just naval grognards...then it would probably be USS Missouri. Though Missouri got a rather late start.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Neil on April 04, 2011, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: Neil on April 04, 2011, 06:45:48 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:24:51 PMYou kill like you talk: Homosexually.
Are you trying to make me want to do this to you?:
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Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 04, 2011, 07:21:48 AM
Post by: grumbler on April 04, 2011, 07:21:48 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 12:02:36 AMSeriously? I'd be interested inseeing you make the case. Five battle stars seems a long way from Big E's 20.
USS Texas
QuoteIf it's popular legend, and not just naval grognards...then it would probably be USS Missouri. Though Missouri got a rather late start.I think you are back to "popular" again. I don't think Missouri did anything to make it legendary, though it was well-known because of the Japanese surrender signing.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Berkut on April 04, 2011, 09:47:23 AM
Post by: Berkut on April 04, 2011, 09:47:23 AM
Nothing can touch the Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Razgovory on April 04, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Post by: Razgovory on April 04, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 04, 2011, 07:21:48 AMQuote from: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 12:02:36 AMSeriously? I'd be interested inseeing you make the case. Five battle stars seems a long way from Big E's 20.
USS TexasQuoteIf it's popular legend, and not just naval grognards...then it would probably be USS Missouri. Though Missouri got a rather late start.I think you are back to "popular" again. I don't think Missouri did anything to make it legendary, though it was well-known because of the Japanese surrender signing.
The Missouri was one of the longer serving ships. Not many battleships have been armed with nukes. Anyway, I voted for the the Big E. I'm not even a naval fan, but I know about that one.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 04, 2011, 06:45:48 AMQuote from: Siege on April 03, 2011, 10:24:51 PMYou kill like you talk: Homosexually.
Are you trying to make me want to do this to you?:
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I have never killed anybody with a knife.
You will be my first, if you keep pocking my eye with your little stick.
Now, if we were talking my lower knife, the one 6 inches long, then I would have to tell you that even though I haven't killed anybody with it either, I have hurt a lot of feelings. Sadly, you are far too ugly for me to try to penetrate your body with my 6 inches knife. I reserve this one for Garbon, with whom I remain deeply infatuated.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Valmy on April 04, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 04, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
This thread makes me miss the days we named CVs cooler names than the name of some douchey ex-President.
The Gerald Ford class? Are you fucking kidding me?
The Gerald Ford class? Are you fucking kidding me?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 12:22:28 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 12:22:28 PM
Absolute worst was the Carl Vinson.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Berkut on April 04, 2011, 12:28:28 PM
Post by: Berkut on April 04, 2011, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 12:22:28 PM
Absolute worst was the Carl Vinson.
I actually disagree, just because Vinson is so unknown that it just sounds like a name that you don't even know what it means one way or the other.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 04, 2011, 12:28:28 PM
I actually disagree, just because Vinson is so unknown that it just sounds like a name that you don't even know what it means one way or the other.
I like it when they name ships after obscure naval heroes because then you get a cool little back story with it. With Vinson all you get is the fact that he voted yes a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
Post by: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 04, 2011, 07:21:48 AMQuote from: Tonitrus on April 04, 2011, 12:02:36 AMSeriously? I'd be interested inseeing you make the case. Five battle stars seems a long way from Big E's 20.
USS TexasQuoteIf it's popular legend, and not just naval grognards...then it would probably be USS Missouri. Though Missouri got a rather late start.I think you are back to "popular" again. I don't think Missouri did anything to make it legendary, though it was well-known because of the Japanese surrender signing.
I was thinking more along the lines of just BBs, from the Yamato tangent.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
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Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 04, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 04, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
What's that, Hebrew for "hit us here with Silkworms we didn't know you had"?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 06:49:27 PM
Post by: Siege on April 04, 2011, 06:49:27 PM
"Fuck you CdM"
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 05, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
Post by: grumbler on April 05, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2011, 10:24:29 AMActually, she wasn't. She was in commission for less than 11 years (1944-1955) and then six years (1986 to 1992). Warspite was in commission for 19 years (1915-1934) and then less than 8 years (1937-1945). Enterprise was only in commission 9 years (1938-1947). Longevity goes to Warspite here (though Victory served 1778-1798, and then again 1803-1812, so gets the nod over any of the above).
The Missouri was one of the longer serving ships.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Syt on April 05, 2011, 11:46:56 PM
Post by: Syt on April 05, 2011, 11:46:56 PM
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Ideologue on April 06, 2011, 08:28:18 AM
Post by: Ideologue on April 06, 2011, 08:28:18 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 03, 2011, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Norgy on April 03, 2011, 04:26:11 AMThe Hood is most known for its long, successful career showing the flag in the interwar period, for being a very beautiful warship, for sinking the crappy French Navy and for a brief gun duel with the Bismarck ending in spectacular death. Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin are relatively well-known because they were German, and a large subset of WWII fans love German tech.
The Hood, the Tirpitz and definitely the Graf Zeppelin are more known for what they could have been, aren't they?
I think a more innocuous part of it is that it's really easy to keep track of the entire German surface fleet in your head, and did so little that their few sensational exploits are equally easy to remember.
Anyway, of course I chose CV-6. Could it have been any other way?
I'd like to give an honorable mention to the Zuikaku, as probably the closest Japanese equivalent to the Enterprise, although necessarily less successful--she didn't survive, but she persevered the longest, and made a romantic if ultimately futile sacrifice, destroyed after being required to fight beyond all endurance and reason as the only fleet carrier in the decoy force at Leyte.
On the plus side for Zuikaku...
Quote from: BerkutNothing can touch the Enterprise.
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Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 06, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 06, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Enterprise has warp drive, Warspite is a Languish poster who afaik lacks warp drive. I vote Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Warspite on April 06, 2011, 12:23:08 PM
Post by: Warspite on April 06, 2011, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 06, 2011, 12:01:14 PM:mad:
Enterprise has warp drive, Warspite is a Languish poster who afaik lacks warp drive. I vote Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: grumbler on April 06, 2011, 02:36:47 PM
Post by: grumbler on April 06, 2011, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 06, 2011, 12:01:14 PMWarspite has warped drivel. That's three letters more than "warp drive" and so obviously superior. :blurgh:
Enterprise has warp drive, Warspite is a Languish poster who afaik lacks warp drive. I vote Enterprise.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 06, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 06, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
Grumbler, you're not Welsh by any chance?
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Siege on April 06, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Post by: Siege on April 06, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 04, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
What's that, Hebrew for "hit us here with Silkworms we didn't know you had"?
You are not fun anymore.
You are suppossed to shoot back.
At least tell me that there are too many words for it to mean "Fuck CdM".
And I was suppossed to tell you that it actually means "Fuck that faggot dickless pussy fuck of CdM", but that I gave you the short version because I didn't want to hurt your feelings.
Anyway. The sign ain't nothing interesting. Just a Sa'ar 5 with an indepence day banner. "The Sea Corp best desires to the State of Israel". Well, we don't use capital letters in hebrew, and I'm probably wrong at translating "desires" literally, since in this case it means something like "wishes", and you doubtless gonna make a tasteless joke about the sea corp having sexual desires for the rest of the male population in the country. Also, the western media always translate "sea corp" as "Navy", even though the israeli navy, and the air force for that matter (air corp), are integral parts of the IDF and not a separate service as in the US.
Title: Re: Warspite or Enterprise?
Post by: Tonitrus on April 06, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
Post by: Tonitrus on April 06, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
At least the IDF probably doesn't have something wacky, like a "People's Liberation Army Navy Air Corps".