Lol, got to beware that Shakespear.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/world/asia/22china.html?_r=2
QuoteChina Tightens Censorship of Electronic Communications
By SHARON LaFRANIERE and DAVID BARBOZA
Published: March 21, 2011
BEIJING — If anyone wonders whether the Chinese government has tightened its grip on electronic communications since protests began engulfing the Arab world, Shakespeare may prove instructive.
A Beijing entrepreneur, discussing restaurant choices with his fiancée over their cellphones last week, quoted Queen Gertrude's response to Hamlet: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." The second time he said the word "protest," her phone cut off.
He spoke English, but another caller, repeating the same phrase on Monday in Chinese over a different phone, was also cut off in midsentence.
A host of evidence over the past several weeks shows that Chinese authorities are more determined than ever to police cellphone calls, electronic messages, e-mail and access to the Internet in order to smother any hint of antigovernment sentiment. In the cat-and-mouse game that characterizes electronic communications here, analysts suggest that the cat is getting bigger, especially since revolts began to ricochet through the Middle East and North Africa, and homegrown efforts to organize protests in China began to circulate on the Internet about a month ago.
"The hard-liners have won the field, and now we are seeing exactly how they want to run the place," said Russell Leigh Moses, a Beijing analyst of China's leadership. "I think the gloves are coming off."
On Sunday, Google accused the Chinese government of disrupting its Gmail service in the country and making it appear as if technical problems at Google — not government intervention — were to blame.
Several popular virtual private-network services, or V.P.N.'s, designed to evade the government's computerized censors, have been crippled. This has prompted an outcry from users as young as ninth graders with school research projects and sent them on a frustrating search for replacements that can pierce the so-called Great Firewall, a menu of direct censorship and "opinion guidance" that restricts what Internet users can read or write online. V.P.N.'s are popular with China's huge expatriate community and Chinese entrepreneurs, researchers and scholars who expect to use the Internet freely.
In an apology to customers in China for interrupted service, WiTopia, a V.P.N. provider, cited "increased blocking attempts." No perpetrator was identified.
Beyond these problems, anecdotal evidence suggests that the government's computers, which intercept incoming data and compare it with an ever-changing list of banned keywords or Web sites, are shutting out more information. The motive is often obvious: For six months or more, the censors have prevented Google searches of the English word "freedom."
But other terms or Web sites are suddenly or sporadically blocked for reasons no ordinary user can fathom. One Beijing technology consultant, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution against his company, said that for several days last week he could not visit the Web site for the Hong Kong Stock Exchange without a proxy. LinkedIn, a networking platform, was blocked for a day during the height of government concerns over Internet-based calls for protests in Chinese cities a few weeks ago, he said.
Hu Yong, a media professor at Peking University, said government censors were constantly spotting and reacting to new perceived threats. "The technology is improving and the range of sensitive terms is expanding because the depth and breadth of things they must manage just keeps on growing," Mr. Hu said.
China's censorship machine has been operating ever more efficiently since mid-2008, and restrictions once viewed as temporary — like bans on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter — are now considered permanent. Government-friendly alternatives have sprung and developed a following.
Few analysts believe that the government will loosen controls any time soon, with events it considers politically sensitive swamping the calendar, including a turnover in the Communist Party's top leadership next year.
"It has been double the guard, and double the guard, and you never hear proclamations about things being relaxed," said Duncan Clark, chairman of BDA China, an investment and strategy consultancy based in Beijing, and a 17-year resident of China. "We have never seen this level of control in the time I have been here, and I have been here since the beginning of the Internet."
How far China will clamp down on electronic communications is unclear. "There's a lot more they can do, but they've been holding back," said Bill Bishop, a Internet expert based in Beijing. Some analysts suggest that officials are exploring just how much inconvenience the Chinese are willing to tolerate. While sentiment is hard to gauge, a certain segment of society rejects censorship.
For many users, an inoperable V.P.N. is an inconvenience, not a crisis. But Internet consultants said interfering with an e-mail service on which people depend every day is more serious. "How people respond is going to be more intense, more visceral," one consultant said.
Google began receiving complaints from Gmail users and its own employees in China about a month ago, around the time anonymous Internet posts urged people unhappy with the government to gather every Sunday. Some Gmail users found their service disconnected when they tried to send or save messages.
Engineers determined that there were no technical difficulties on Google's end, Google said; rather, the hand of the Chinese government was at work. China's Foreign Ministry did not respond Monday to calls or faxed questions about Google's statement.
Disrupting Web sites and Internet connections is a standard tactic in dealing with companies that fall out of government favor. Mark Seiden, an Internet consultant, said Chinese officials typically left the companies and users to guess the reason.
In the Google case, an article on the Web site of People's Daily, the Communist Party's official publication, offered a strong hint. The March 4 article, attributed to a netizen, called Google a tool of the United States government. Like Facebook and Twitter, the article said, Google has "played a role in manufacturing social disorder" and sought to involve itself in other nations' politics.
China has treated Google as a threat for some time. Last year, Google closed its search service and redirected Chinese users to Google's Hong Kong site after the company said China was behind a cyberattack aimed partly at Gmail accounts.
Mr. Moses, the Beijing analyst, said the latest moves further expand government control of electronic communications. "The model for this government is that every day is a new challenge and a new opportunity to show the strength of the state here," he said. "There is clear confidence in the capability of the political authorities to maintain order."
I hear coverage of Egypt is being blocked.
Lol, what a mess. I wonder how much or for how long the Chinese govt can keep this crap going? Especially as they try to modernize their economy, and make strides into the real world, outside of their former Commie cocoon, as people become more and more aware.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 23, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
I hear coverage of Egypt is being blocked.
Hmm... can anyone confirm this?
China bans time travel stories.
http://blastr.com/2011/04/china-bans-time-travel-mo.php
Some of my Chinese colleagues tell me coverage of Egypt is being blocked. Can anyone confirm??? :blink:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
China bans time travel stories.
http://blastr.com/2011/04/china-bans-time-travel-mo.php
Time-traveling to Ancient Egypt? Far out, dude.
Have they blocked searches about Egypt yet? :hmm:
If you're interested in following the ups and downs of free speech repression in China, the most current story to read up on is Ai Wei Wei.
Quote from: Jacob on April 07, 2011, 11:46:01 PM
If you're interested in following the ups and downs of free speech repression in China, the most current story to read up on is Ai Wei Wei.
That doesn't
sound like an Egyptian name. :huh:
Quote from: Slargos on April 07, 2011, 11:49:30 PMThat doesn't sound like an Egyptian name. :huh:
Obviously not; apparently, the Chinese government is censoring coverage of Egypt.
Quote from: Slargos on April 07, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 07, 2011, 11:46:01 PM
If you're interested in following the ups and downs of free speech repression in China, the most current story to read up on is Ai Wei Wei.
That doesn't sound like an Egyptian name. :huh:
Trust me, Ai Wei Wei doesn't even sound like a Chinese name :lol: Ai is a pretty rare surname in China. "Wei" means "not yet" in Chinese. "Wei Wei" just means "not yet not yet". That name sounds really odd in Chinese as well. I think that is probably a stage name or something.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 08, 2011, 07:41:13 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 07, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 07, 2011, 11:46:01 PM
If you're interested in following the ups and downs of free speech repression in China, the most current story to read up on is Ai Wei Wei.
That doesn't sound like an Egyptian name. :huh:
Trust me, Ai Wei Wei doesn't even sound like a Chinese name :lol: Ai is a pretty rare surname in China. "Wei" means "not yet" in Chinese. "Wei Wei" just means "not yet not yet". That name sounds really odd in Chinese as well. I think that is probably a stage name or something.
Nope, it's his real name. His father was another artist, Ai Qing, who did use it as his pen name, his real name was Jiang Zhenghan.
QuotePen Name
In 1933 while tortured and imprisoned by Kuomintang party, when writing his book DaAn River—My Wet-nurse, while writing his surname (Jiang, 蒋) he stopped at "艹"; due to his bitterness towards KMT leader Chiang Kai-shek ("蔣介石"), he resented sharing the same surname (Jiang / Chiang) and finished the rest of the word with an X. This happens to be the Chinese character ai (艾), and since the rest of his name, Hai Cheng meant qing (青, the color blue), he adopted the pen name Ai Qing.
I'm due to be in China next week. Would I be able to follow events in Egypt while I'm there?
Quote from: Warspite on April 08, 2011, 08:15:20 AM
I'm due to be in China next week. Would I be able to follow events in Egypt while I'm there?
If you stay in a large hotel, they'll have uncensored access to CNN, BBC etc.
You'll also have access to languish, i.e. the timmay RSS feed ;)
Otherwise, no. Pretty much all "western" news sites will be blocked. I speak from first hand experience.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 08, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: Warspite on April 08, 2011, 08:15:20 AM
I'm due to be in China next week. Would I be able to follow events in Egypt while I'm there?
If you stay in a large hotel, they'll have uncensored access to CNN, BBC etc.
You'll also have access to languish, i.e. the timmay RSS feed ;)
Otherwise, no. Pretty much all "western" news sites will be blocked. I speak from first hand experience.
No foreign scribes allowed, eh? ;)
A sidenote. I can access languish from anywhere in China. Except Guangzhou. When I tried to log on, I got a message that said something to the effect of "fuck off you spammer". The actual wording was more...colourful :D
Quote from: Monoriu on April 08, 2011, 11:19:16 AM
A sidenote. I can access languish from anywhere in China. Except Guangzhou. When I tried to log on, I got a message that said something to the effect of "fuck off you spammer". The actual wording was more...colourful :D
Sounds like a mod, CDM responding. :D
The Shakespeare story is both funny and worrying.
So there's some sort of automated system that recognises the word protest in English and Chinese and cuts off calls?
This is worrying stuff when you consider it is also combined with Weiwei's arrest. People thought China would reform for the better eventually,its going the other way.
QuoteA sidenote. I can access languish from anywhere in China. Except Guangzhou. When I tried to log on, I got a message that said something to the effect of "fuck off you spammer". The actual wording was more...colourful :D
You know languish is dead when the Chinese don't think we're in any way subversive.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 08, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
Pretty much all "western" news sites will be blocked. I speak from first hand experience.
Not a single western news website was blocked when I was in China between 2008 - June 2010, apart from Facebook and Youtube (which are not really traditional news sites, either). :unsure:
Quote from: Warspite on April 08, 2011, 08:15:20 AM
I'm due to be in China next week. Would I be able to follow events in Egypt while I'm there?
Where are you going in China?
Quote from: Jacob on April 08, 2011, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Warspite on April 08, 2011, 08:15:20 AM
I'm due to be in China next week. Would I be able to follow events in Egypt while I'm there?
Where are you going in China?
I lied. I just wanted to keep the "Can I read about Egypt" thing going.