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Question: Which car should I buy?
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Title: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 03:53:49 AM
My actual car (BMW 5 series Touring, xDrive) is 4 years old and 189.000 kms old, so it's time for me (or better, my company) to substitute it with a new one.

Which one shoud I pick, considering the following requisites:

1. Spacious: I have three kids, aged from 2 1/2 to 7, who need their kids' seats, and in my actual car they're fitting like sardines in a can.
2. Lots of room for baggage: same as above, I'm still going around with a $2.000 stroller, pliable bed, tons of clothes my wife is unable to make luggage that weighs less than 20 kilos for a three-day vacation trip)
3. Comfortable: I drive about 45.000 kms per year, so I want a car that's silent, comfortable, good AC, good stereo, etc etc
4. Engine: Some (a lot of) horsepower is always welcome

and yes, the last option is there for when I'll win the lottery. Or I'll hit 50.

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 03:57:42 AM
Humm, I forgot the models! From top:

1. Range Rover
2. Land Rover Discovery
3. Toyota Land Cruiser
4. Mercedes GL
5. BMW X5
6. Cadillac Escalade
7. VolksWagen Sharan
8. Ford Galaxy
9. Mercedes R class
10. VolksWagen Transporter
11. BMW 5 series Touring
12. VW Transporter Old style
13. Maserati Gran Turismo

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Tamas on March 23, 2011, 04:24:08 AM
Toyota!
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 04:26:54 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 23, 2011, 04:24:08 AM
Toyota!
Do you still own your Black Steed?  :hug:

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Brazen on March 23, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Range Rover if you can afford it, and the petrol.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Tamas on March 23, 2011, 04:42:12 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 04:26:54 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 23, 2011, 04:24:08 AM
Toyota!
Do you still own your Black Steed?  :hug:

L.

I do :)
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Slargos on March 23, 2011, 04:52:04 AM
Escalade. Niggah needs to travel in style.  :cool:

Other: XC90 might be an alternative.

Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 04:59:54 AM
Quote from: Slargos on March 23, 2011, 04:52:04 AM
Escalade. Niggah needs to travel in style.  :cool:

Other: XC90 might be an alternative.
I've seen a very similar car to the Escalade, but it was a Lincoln: what's the difference from the cadillac?

I never liked Volvo...

@Brazen: the Range Rover is an exceptional car, but yes, costs will be skyrocketing.

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: lustindarkness on March 23, 2011, 05:10:56 AM
11. BMW 5 series Touring
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Grey Fox on March 23, 2011, 05:56:09 AM
Never seen a Ford Galaxy before.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: KRonn on March 23, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Sounds like you need one of those family van type vehicles. Lots of room for kids and luggage, and I think some of the newer models are pretty good on fuel mileage.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: DGuller on March 23, 2011, 07:27:33 AM
Range Rover is a cool car, as cool as an SUV can be, but repairs will be very frequent, and very expensive.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: KRonn on March 23, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Sounds like you need one of those family van type vehicles. Lots of room for kids and luggage, and I think some of the newer models are pretty good on fuel mileage.

...but I don't want one of those!  :cry:

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Ed Anger on March 23, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: KRonn on March 23, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Sounds like you need one of those family van type vehicles. Lots of room for kids and luggage, and I think some of the newer models are pretty good on fuel mileage.

...but I don't want one of those!  :cry:

L.

I didn't want a Honda Odyssey either. But man, it makes life easier.

Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 23, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 04:59:54 AM
I've seen a very similar car to the Escalade, but it was a Lincoln: what's the difference from the cadillac?

I never liked Volvo...

@Brazen: the Range Rover is an exceptional car, but yes, costs will be skyrocketing.

L.

Are you talking about the Lincoln Navigator?  Does that come under the same name in Euroland?  Anyway, as far as those supermassive SUVs go, there's something to consider- how straight are the roads around you?  Navigators and Escalades have tremendous amounts of body roll- those feel like they're going to tip on even moderate curves.  I'd go for the BMW X5 myself; I'd assume it'd bounce and roll a lot less than a Caddy or a Lincoln.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Savonarola on March 23, 2011, 09:07:45 AM
Go with the Microbus, and plaster it with Grateful Dead stickers.  :cool:
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 09:16:42 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on March 23, 2011, 09:07:45 AM
Go with the Microbus, and plaster it with Grateful Dead stickers.  :cool:
That was my idea when I posted the pic  :D  Or a megasticker "PEDRITOBUS"

@ DSB: interesting remark: I'll use it for mountain trips too, so this could influence the choice. For some time after I got the driving license I've driven a 1986 Range Rover and boy if it rolled on every curve! But it was a dream of a car.
BTW, I've only seen one Lincoln, it surely was an imported car because Lincoln does not have a sales network in Italy.

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 23, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: KRonn on March 23, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Sounds like you need one of those family van type vehicles. Lots of room for kids and luggage, and I think some of the newer models are pretty good on fuel mileage.

...but I don't want one of those!  :cry:

L.

I didn't want a Honda Odyssey either. But man, it makes life easier.
What's the lineup in your garage these days Ed?

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Ed Anger on March 23, 2011, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 23, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: KRonn on March 23, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Sounds like you need one of those family van type vehicles. Lots of room for kids and luggage, and I think some of the newer models are pretty good on fuel mileage.

...but I don't want one of those!  :cry:

L.

I didn't want a Honda Odyssey either. But man, it makes life easier.
What's the lineup in your garage these days Ed?

L.

Dodge Challenger
Honda Accord
A wrecked Jeep Grand Cherokee
Honda Odyssey as kid APC.
Wife's Mercury Milan.  :yuk:
RV whose brand I can't remember right now
Box truck(bidness)

Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: dps on March 23, 2011, 06:19:17 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on March 23, 2011, 09:16:42 AM
@ DSB: interesting remark: I'll use it for mountain trips too, so this could influence the choice. For some time after I got the driving license I've driven a 1986 Range Rover and boy if it rolled on every curve! But it was a dream of a car.

Do you need actual off-road capability?  'Cause if you do, the Range Rover becomes a much better choice. 

If not, of the listed models, get the Ford.

EDIT:  Wait, wait.  Your company is paying for this.  Forget boring but practical, and get the R Class (still practical, which you need, but not as boring).
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 10, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Tomorrow I'll have a test drive with a Land Rover Discovery (number 2 of the photos): half the price of a Range Rover classic, same fuel consumption, let's see how comfortable it is in an highway environment.  :hmm:

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Zanza2 on May 10, 2011, 04:47:44 PM
If you consider the BMW 5 Touring, you should consider the Mercedes E class T model as well. It's got a gigantic boot and is generally very spacious, so you should fit in three kids and luggage.

Of your list, I obviously would go with the Mercedes GL. ;)
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Barrister on May 10, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
I am partial to the Toyota Land Cruiser myself.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Iormlund on May 10, 2011, 05:33:31 PM
Quote from: dps on March 23, 2011, 06:19:17 PM
EDIT:  Wait, wait.  Your company is paying for this.  Forget boring but practical, and get the R Class (still practical, which you need, but not as boring).
My boss has an R Class and he's so happy with Mercedes he swears he's going back to BMW when the time comes to replace it.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 11, 2011, 09:50:38 AM
Oookay, after the test drive I'm officially in love with the Land Rover Discovery :wub:

Yes, it's 2,5 tons; yes, it looks like a box with another bigger box attached to the back; yes, during the test drive fuel consumption never went below 10 liters for 100 kms;
but it's *extremely* comfortable, silent even at 140 kmh, can have 7 seats, the motor is more brilliant than it seems (given that it weighs really a lot, and the driver immediately feels it) and generally speaking it has a very nice Land Rover feeling, and its price is about half the Range Rover Classic.

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 25, 2011, 05:13:23 PM
Ordered today :yeah:

ETA: August... :weep:

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 25, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
US MSRP: $35,700

So what did you pay?   :)
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: DGuller on May 25, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 25, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
US MSRP: $35,700

So what did you pay?   :)
Probably 700,000 Euros after all the taxes.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:28:27 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 25, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
US MSRP: $35,700

So what did you pay?   :)
HSE version, 245hp engine, some optionals: € 54.000 tax included  :glare:
Consider I'll sell my actual car to the retailer, so in the end I'll spend something around 44.000 Yuros

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Yeah, says the guy whose next trip to the mechanic will be a nice little suprise: "Buongiorno signor DeMony, what can I do for your FIAT car, mamma mia?"

L.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 05:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Yeah, says the guy whose next trip to the mechanic will be a nice little suprise: "Buongiorno signor DeMony, what can I do for your FIAT car, mamma mia?"

L.

Somebody give me a hand here, please?  I don't speak eggplant.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Grey Fox on May 26, 2011, 05:52:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 05:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Yeah, says the guy whose next trip to the mechanic will be a nice little suprise: "Buongiorno signor DeMony, what can I do for your FIAT car, mamma mia?"

L.

Somebody give me a hand here, please?  I don't speak eggplant.

FIAT owns Jeep, Dodge & Chrysler.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 05:53:17 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 26, 2011, 05:52:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 05:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Yeah, says the guy whose next trip to the mechanic will be a nice little suprise: "Buongiorno signor DeMony, what can I do for your FIAT car, mamma mia?"

L.

Ah, OK.

But at least it's not in PAL format.

Somebody give me a hand here, please?  I don't speak eggplant.

FIAT owns Jeep, Dodge & Chrysler.
Title: Re: Which car should I buy? (Warning! Picture Heavy)
Post by: Pedrito on May 27, 2011, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 05:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on May 26, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Land Rover?  Enjoy those trips to the mechanic.  Even the fucker's electronics are in PAL format.
Yeah, says the guy whose next trip to the mechanic will be a nice little suprise: "Buongiorno signor DeMony, what can I do for your FIAT car, mamma mia?"

L.

Somebody give me a hand here, please?  I don't speak eggplant.
I hate when you people make these silly mistakes. I am a Wop, eggplants are iberians!  :rolleyes:

L.