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Title: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 04:26:17 AM
In your face Septics!

QuoteEuropean life expectancy increasing

Life expectancy in Europe is increasing despite the obesity epidemic, with people in Britain living longer than those in the US, an analysis of trends over the last 40 years suggests.


The findings published in the International Journal of Epidemiology appear to mitigate concerns that rising life expectancy in high income countries may falter in the face of obesity-related health problems.

Epidemiologist and population health expert Professor David Leon, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, concluded that in the last five years, most European countries have been going in a "positive direction" for the first time in decades - although the gap between East and West remains entrenched.

Professor Leon said: "Despite what many may have assumed, and without being complacent, current trends in European life expectancy are in a positive direction.

"But while the European experience since 1980 underlines the centrality of the social, political and economic determinants of health, many intriguing and important questions remain unanswered about the drivers of these extraordinary trends."

He added deaths from cardiovascular disease in the UK had seen "some of the largest and most rapid falls of any Western European country, partly due to improvements in treatment as well as reductions in smoking and other risk factors".

Meanwhile, the US was at the same level as the lowest of any Western European country (Portugal for males and Denmark for females), despite spending more per capita on health care than any other country in the world, with the rate for women increasing at a much slower pace than Western Europe.

In 2007, average life expectancy in the US was 78 years compared to 80 in the UK.

In 2008, British male life expectancy stood at 77.9 and female life expectancy stood at 82.0, while Russian men could expect to live to 61.8 and women to 74.2, data from the World Health Organisation and the Human Mortality Database revealed.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hHpbU4ub1XEcqJAuHj5st8f8jrrQ?docId=N0047361300324682021A (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hHpbU4ub1XEcqJAuHj5st8f8jrrQ?docId=N0047361300324682021A)
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Monoriu on March 18, 2011, 04:29:17 AM
Yeah, and HKers live longer than Brits :contract:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html?countryName=Hong Kong&countryCode=hk&regionCode=eas&rank=8#hk
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 04:41:46 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on March 18, 2011, 04:29:17 AM
Yeah, and HKers live longer than Brits :contract:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html?countryName=Hong Kong&countryCode=hk&regionCode=eas&rank=8#hk
British healthcare with Asian diet :contract:
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
QuoteMeanwhile, the US was at the same level as the lowest of any Western European country (Portugal for males and Denmark for females), despite spending more per capita on health care than any other country in the world,

That spending isn't distributed evenly, as not all people are covered by health care equally.  But, as we've learned, that would be evil communism.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: HVC on March 18, 2011, 06:53:36 AM
78 compared to 80 woo lol. Have fun paying for all your old people :p
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 07:01:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
That spending isn't distributed evenly, as not all people are covered by health care equally.  But, as we've learned, that would be evil communism.
I'd be interested to know the distribution of the oldest and youngest to die by country. I'd imagine the uneven distribution of spending would mean there's a small section of society living to degrees of superannuation the rest of us can only dream of in the US, and the middle section would pretty much hit European averages.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Strix on March 18, 2011, 07:17:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 18, 2011, 06:53:36 AM
78 compared to 80 woo lol. Have fun paying for all your old people :p

It's not that. It's the British Health Care system. It's so overloaded that dead people have a two year waiting period before they can be seen by a doctor and legally declared dead.  ;)
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: KRonn on March 18, 2011, 07:50:06 AM
Damn Limeys!   :mad:



;)
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: garbon on March 18, 2011, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
QuoteMeanwhile, the US was at the same level as the lowest of any Western European country (Portugal for males and Denmark for females), despite spending more per capita on health care than any other country in the world,

That spending isn't distributed evenly, as not all people are covered by health care equally.  But, as we've learned, that would be evil communism.

Likely, unless you are suggesting some way that people with little money can contribute a reasonable of money towards their own healthcare costs/needs.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: DGuller on March 18, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Better to live one day as an American than a hundred years as a Brit.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Ed Anger on March 18, 2011, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 18, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Better to live one day as an American than a hundred years as a Brit.

DGuller: +5 esteem in my eyes.

Still a damn dirty slav though.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 18, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Better to live one day as an American than a hundred years as a Brit.
"We don't live longer in Britain, it just seems that way".
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: KRonn on March 18, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
Quote from: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 18, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Better to live one day as an American than a hundred years as a Brit.
"We don't live longer in Britain, it just seems that way".

:D
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: dps on March 18, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
Quote from: Brazen on March 18, 2011, 07:01:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
That spending isn't distributed evenly, as not all people are covered by health care equally.  But, as we've learned, that would be evil communism.
I'd be interested to know the distribution of the oldest and youngest to die by country. I'd imagine the uneven distribution of spending would mean there's a small section of society living to degrees of superannuation the rest of us can only dream of in the US, and the middle section would pretty much hit European averages.

Somewhat doubtful.  In fact, the main factor within the US that determines life expectancy isn't economic status, it's race.  Life expectancy is much lower for blacks (especially black males) than it is for whites.  Now, there is a strong correlation between race and economic status, but even if you adjust for that, blacks have a significantly lower life expectancy.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 18, 2011, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
QuoteMeanwhile, the US was at the same level as the lowest of any Western European country (Portugal for males and Denmark for females), despite spending more per capita on health care than any other country in the world,

That spending isn't distributed evenly, as not all people are covered by health care equally.  But, as we've learned, that would be evil communism.

Likely, unless you are suggesting some way that people with little money can contribute a reasonable of money towards their own healthcare costs/needs.

How egalitarian of you.  Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Brits live longer than Yanks
Post by: garbon on March 18, 2011, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
How egalitarian of you.  Go fuck yourself.

How magnanimous of you.