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Title: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Caliga on March 16, 2011, 07:37:36 AM
First Buddy Ryan, and now this? :mad:

QuoteVoters Recall Florida Official
By TIMOTHY W. MARTIN

Miami-Dade County voters recalled their top elected official Tuesday, culminating an effort financed by a billionaire car dealer and fueled by frustrations over a poor economy and unpopular policy decisions.

Some 88% of 200,347 voters elected to oust Republican Carlos Alvarez, with 707 of 829 precincts reporting, along with early and absentee ballots

Mr. Alvarez easily won re-election in 2008 as mayor of Miami-Dade, the county of 2.5 million residents that includes the city of Miami. But a recall effort gained momentum last fall when he agreed to a budget that raised the county's property taxes while increasing pay to unionized public employees.

"The voters have spoken and a time of healing and reconciliation must now begin," Mr. Alvarez said in a statement Tuesday night.

In an interview last week, Mr. Alvarez had said he would consider campaigning for his old job in a special election. But in the statement he sounded content. "I wish the next Mayor of Miami-Dade County much success."

Miami-Dade county voters such as Miguel Sanchez, a 33-year-old computer programmer from Doral, Fla., decided they had endured enough of Mr. Alvarez. "I'm fed up with my taxes being raised—we're all suffering," said Mr. Sanchez, who estimated his property taxes would increase $800 this year to $4,800.

Mr. Alvarez's critics said he was politically tone deaf during troubled economic times for the county's 2.5 million residents: The jobless rate stands at 12%.

Last fall, Mr. Alvarez agreed to increase pay and unfreeze some benefits for unionized public employees. At the same time, he raised property taxes for two-fifths of the county's homeowners, by an average of 13%.

Those moves drew the ire of Norman Braman, a wealthy car mogul who previously had clashed with Mr. Alvarez over the use of public dollars to build a baseball stadium for the Florida Marlins. Mr. Braman spent $1 million of his own money to help pay for the recall efforts.

Mr. Alvarez had said he believed his wealthy critic had an "ax to grind with me," which Mr. Braman denied.

Mr. Alvarez will have to step down as soon as the elections are certified, which is expected to happen in the next few days.

An interim mayor, who would finish out Mr. Alvarez's term ending November 2012, will be elected this summer in a special election, or the next scheduled county-wide vote early next year, said Joe Martinez, the county commissioner chairman. in an interview Tuesday night. In the latter option, the county commissioners would appoint an acting mayor to serve until January 2012.

Until those elections, the commission does have the power to appoint someone to fill-in for certain, individual tasks, such as budget proposals. But that person would not be acting mayor, or have the power to veto, said a spokeswoman for Mr. Martinez.

Mr. Martinez said he knew of at least eight people who will run for Miami-Dade mayor if a special election is called. Among those: Julio Robaina, the mayor of Hialeah, a northwest Miami suburb, who is campaigning on lowering taxes and curbing the power of county commissioners.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami
Post by: Grey Fox on March 16, 2011, 08:18:16 AM
Raising Taxes, raising pay of state employees? A republican? Doesn't compute.
Are you sure the guy wasn't a Democrat spy?
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami
Post by: Caliga on March 16, 2011, 08:36:31 AM
No, he's a Cuban.  Cuban = Republican.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami
Post by: KRonn on March 16, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 16, 2011, 08:18:16 AM
Raising Taxes, raising pay of state employees? A republican? Doesn't compute.
Are you sure the guy wasn't a Democrat spy?

Just a bad policy combination right now, whether Repub or Dem. 
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on March 16, 2011, 08:45:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 16, 2011, 08:18:16 AM
Raising Taxes, raising pay of state employees? A republican? Doesn't compute.
Are you sure the guy wasn't a Democrat spy?

County employees.  Such things are fairly common down there, especially since local politics are nominally non-partisan.  Its all about the cronyism.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami
Post by: Razgovory on March 16, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2011, 08:36:31 AM
No, he's a Cuban.  Cuban = Republican.

I've always suspected.  Castro you magnificent bastard!
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 16, 2011, 01:03:04 PM
this is a very interesting development for plj indeed :ph34r:

Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Caliga on March 16, 2011, 02:13:02 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on March 16, 2011, 01:03:04 PM
this is a very interesting development for plj indeed :ph34r:
Take Norm to the cleaners brah. :cool:
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 16, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
nope; im glad alvarez got fired.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 16, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
I thought you were in Jacksonville?
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 16, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
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his property taxes would increase $800 this year to $4,800.



Ouch.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 16, 2011, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 16, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Ouch.

I love the smell of 20% tax hikes in the morning.  About as much as I love the smell of a 100-acre field fertilized with chicken manure.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: katmai on March 16, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on March 16, 2011, 01:03:04 PM
this is a very interesting development for plj indeed :ph34r:

How the fuck would you know!?
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 17, 2011, 06:35:40 AM
Florida taxes are so incredibly low, they needed to get jacked the fuck up, just to catch up to the 1970s.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 17, 2011, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 16, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
I thought you were in Jacksonville?

I am; i cannot say more at this time.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 17, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 17, 2011, 06:35:40 AM
Florida taxes are so incredibly low, they needed to get jacked the fuck up, just to catch up to the 1970s.
speak for yourself; we need lower taxes across the board!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Grey Fox on March 17, 2011, 09:56:36 AM
You need a 10% VAT style from the federal gov. That's what ya need.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 17, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2011, 09:56:36 AM
You need a 10% VAT style from the federal gov. That's what ya need.

this is florida; we leave the socialism to the rotw

Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: garbon on March 17, 2011, 10:35:20 PM
I don't see why anyone would live in Florida. Sounds like a dreadful version of Southern California.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: DGuller on March 17, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on March 17, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 17, 2011, 09:56:36 AM
You need a 10% VAT style from the federal gov. That's what ya need.

this is florida; we leave the socialism to the rotw
Except when it comes to property insurance.  :lol:
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 17, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2011, 10:35:20 PM
I don't see why anyone would live in Florida. Sounds like a dreadful version of Southern California.

No earthquakes.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 17, 2011, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 17, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
No earthquakes.

Hurricane season.  My relatives in the Keys spend a small fortune every couple of years repairing hurricane/flood damage. :contract:
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: sbr on March 17, 2011, 11:13:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2011, 10:35:20 PM
I don't see why anyone would live in Florida. Sounds like a dreadful version of Southern California.

I have no desire to ever even visit Florida.  Too hot, to humid, to many bugs and gators; it's like our own little Australia.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 17, 2011, 11:16:53 PM
The whole state isn't in the Everglades you know.
Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: Rasputin on March 21, 2011, 08:50:05 AM
We like humidity.

The gators are fairly plentiful, but they rarely eat people. The water moccassins are far more dangerous as they are poisonous and very territorial.

Your best rule of thumb is dont swim in shaoolow water, stay away from grass beds, and never swim at dusk or dawn.

Title: Re: Norman Braman fires the Mayor of Miami-Dade
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2011, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 17, 2011, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 17, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
No earthquakes.

Hurricane season.  My relatives in the Keys spend a small fortune every couple of years repairing hurricane/flood damage. :contract:

Whereas damaging earthquakes are much rarer.