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Title: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: chipwich on March 14, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
I'm far too young to remember Carter, but there seem to be a lot of similarities based on what I've heard of him.

Slow to act, lacks the killer instinct needed to be a good leader, acting as a Christian conservative instead of being fair, giving stuff away in negotiations and calling it
"compromise", supporting the sketchy parts of the military/security for no real reason, and trying to please everyone and failing.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Barrister on March 14, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
This is completely, 100% the first time I have heard that comparison.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Ed Anger on March 14, 2011, 07:11:25 PM
Feels like the last W term to be honest. With a big extra helping of malaise.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Viking on March 14, 2011, 07:15:11 PM
At least Carter sent the helicopters into Iran.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Razgovory on March 14, 2011, 07:46:57 PM
I already posted in this thread.  On EUOT.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 14, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
Obama is like Grover Cleveland.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Josephus on March 14, 2011, 08:06:58 PM
Jimmy Carter was American.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Viking on March 14, 2011, 08:15:19 PM
At least Carter sent the marines into Iran.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: derspiess on March 14, 2011, 09:39:32 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 14, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 14, 2011, 07:11:25 PM
Feels like the last W term to be honest. With a big extra helping of malaise.
I gotta agree with the Butt on this one.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 14, 2011, 11:21:28 PM
Quote from: chipwich on March 14, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
Slow to act, lacks the killer instinct needed to be a good leader, acting as a Christian conservative instead of being fair, giving stuff away in negotiations and calling it
"compromise", supporting the sketchy parts of the military/security for no real reason, and trying to please everyone and failing.

Links, plz
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 14, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: chipwich on March 14, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
acting as a Christian conservative instead of being fair
What exactly do you mean by this?
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: chipwich on March 15, 2011, 12:16:43 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 14, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: chipwich on March 14, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
acting as a Christian conservative instead of being fair
What exactly do you mean by this?

gay rights
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: DGuller on March 15, 2011, 02:27:28 AM
That's dumb.  Obama is black, Carter is white.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: The Brain on March 15, 2011, 06:51:19 AM
Obama is like Ford.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2011, 07:18:47 AM
Obama doesn't have a Reagan to squash him like a bug.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: derspiess on March 15, 2011, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 15, 2011, 06:51:19 AM
Obama is like Ford.

Needs more falling down.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Hansmeister on March 15, 2011, 04:35:30 PM
Heh, I compared him to Carter during the campaign.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Savonarola on March 15, 2011, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on March 15, 2011, 04:35:30 PM
Heh, I compared him to Carter during the campaign.

As a candidate he was like Carter: both men are fantastically gifted orators; both had limited political experience at the time they ran; both have written inspirational autobiographies. 

As a President Barack hasn't been much like Carter.    Carter was a notorious micro-manager allegedly even overseeing the schedule of the White House Tennis Courts; Barack seems to be better at delegating.  Carter tried to portray himself as just plain folks while Obama has wisely avoided doing the same.  Carter made human rights the cornerstone of his foreign policy, a change in direction from the previous administrations; while in Barack has continued the foreign policy of his predecessor. 

The biggest similarity, in my opinion, is that both men had problems working with the opposition and dealing with congress even when their own party controlled both houses.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Strix on March 15, 2011, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 15, 2011, 06:51:19 AM
Obama is like Ford.

You can have him in any color as long as it's black?
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Razgovory on March 15, 2011, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on March 15, 2011, 04:35:30 PM
Heh, I compared him to Carter during the campaign.

You compared him to Hitler too.  I doubt he'll level Europe and commit Suicide.
Title: Re: Is Obama Like Carter?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 15, 2011, 09:15:30 PM
Obama is clearly no Hitler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4)