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Title: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
Apparently the average 11th grade boy only writes as well as the average 8th grade girl.  :pinch:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41925657#41925657
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2011, 10:07:36 PM
You've proven that for years, retard.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Clearly a result of gender bias in the classroom.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Clearly a result of gender bias in the classroom.
Well yeah, students have to sit still, pay attention and follow the rules. Girls are suited to do those things at a younger age than boys are.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
Well yeah, students have to sit still, pay attention and follow the rules. Girls are suited to do those things at a younger age than boys are.
That would not be gender bias then, woud it. 
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
Well yeah, students have to sit still, pay attention and follow the rules. Girls are suited to do those things at a younger age than boys are.
That would not be gender bias then, woud it.
Structured school is biased in favor of girls, how is that not gender bias?
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: HVC on March 06, 2011, 01:16:25 AM
Weren't schools even more structured in the good old days when you could beat smart ass kids? Gotta be something else.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: The Brain on March 06, 2011, 02:47:05 AM
Boys will be boys.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: grumbler on March 06, 2011, 06:03:01 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Structured school is biased in favor of girls, how is that not gender bias?
:huh:
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 06, 2011, 06:15:05 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 06, 2011, 01:16:25 AM
Weren't schools even more structured in the good old days when you could beat smart ass kids? Gotta be something else.
There were different cultural factors at work that kept the girls down then.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 06, 2011, 09:34:39 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 06, 2011, 01:16:25 AM
Weren't schools even more structured in the good old days when you could beat smart ass kids? Gotta be something else.

Like the lack of beatings.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: HVC on March 06, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 06, 2011, 06:15:05 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 06, 2011, 01:16:25 AM
Weren't schools even more structured in the good old days when you could beat smart ass kids? Gotta be something else.
There were different cultural factors at work that kept the girls down then.
so girls got better, and boys stayed the same? i always here boys are doing worse in general (as well as worse then girls)
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Neil on March 06, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Structured school is biased in favor of girls
I'm going to apply Sagan's Statement to that.  Generations of men excelled in a school environment that was highly structured and encouraged responsibility.  They invented it, for heaven's sake.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2011, 02:47:10 PM
I'm going to put my kids into private schools. I have zero confidence in public schools these days.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Jaron on March 06, 2011, 03:14:52 PM
Averages are probably dragged down by minorities.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: The Brain on March 06, 2011, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 06, 2011, 03:14:52 PM
Averages are probably dragged down by minorities.

Yes teachers play a big role.
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: Jaron on March 06, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 06, 2011, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 06, 2011, 03:14:52 PM
Averages are probably dragged down by minorities.

Yes teachers play a big role.

:showoff:
Title: Re: Boys falling further behind in American classrooms
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 06, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
Teaching methods in use today were designed in a time when girls were behind and they needed to focus on them. It's no big secret. There's hardly anybody left who knows how boys learn. Except maybe grumbler. All the colleges of education are staffed with people who came up during that time too, so their innovations tend to be further in the same direction.