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Title: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2010, 04:46:37 AM
QuoteChinese man stabs children in kindergarten, 31 hurt

Reuters
Thursday, April 29, 2010; 5:08 AM

BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man injured 28 children, two teachers and a security guard in a kindergarten in eastern China, state media reported on Thursday, the fourth such stabbing case in recent weeks.

Xu Yuyuan, 47, an unemployed local man, broke into a classroom in Taixing city of eastern Jiangsu province on Thursday morning, attacking the children with a 20 cm long knife, the official Xinhua news agency said.

The injured children were all about four years old, and five are in critical condition, it added.

Xu has been jobless since he was fired from a local insurance company in 2001, and then took part in pyramid selling schemes, Xinhua added.

The attack is the fourth reported school stabbing in China in recent weeks, and the rash of violence has prompted public calls for more measures to protect students in a country where many couples only have one child.

A man stabbed 16 students and a teacher at a primary school in southern China on Wednesday, the same day that a former doctor was executed for stabbing to death eight school children last month.

"More concrete measures should be taken to make school the safest place," a commentary in today's Beijing News said, calling for more serve punishment for these killers.

Some web users are discussing about the root causes of the increasing number of school tragedies.

"We should think about these cases from a deeper side, the voices of weak people were ignored, and then they took revenge on society," said one commentary on the online Bulletin Board System of Tsinghua University (www.newsmth.net).

A commentary by the official China Youth Daily, shortly after the first stabbing, said that in addition to beefing up security at schools, the government should offer more psychological counseling across the country.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Jaron on April 29, 2010, 05:08:38 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, its a horrible crime. On the other hand, they were going to grow up to be enemies of the US anyway.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: grumbler on April 29, 2010, 06:49:18 AM
Quote from: Jaron on April 29, 2010, 05:08:38 AM
On the other hand, they were going to grow up to be enemies of the US anyway.
Nits make lice. :contract:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2010, 08:24:58 AM
Ban knives?
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Maximus on April 29, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
Moron. Never bring a knife to a school shooting.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Brazen on April 29, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2010, 04:46:37 AM
The attack is the fourth reported school stabbing in China in recent weeks, and the rash of violence has prompted public calls for more measures to protect students in a country where many couples only have one child.
Because if they had more they'd be expendable?
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Pedrito on April 29, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: Maximus on April 29, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
Moron. Never bring a knife

It would put you at immediate disadvantage

L.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: sbr on April 29, 2010, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2010, 04:46:37 AM
Quote...

A man stabbed 16 students and a teacher at a primary school in southern China on Wednesday, the same day that a former doctor was executed for stabbing to death eight school children last month.

"More concrete measures should be taken to make school the safest place," a commentary in today's Beijing News said, calling for more serve punishment for these killers....

I can't wait to see what they some up with next.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Berkut on April 29, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Yeah, I am wondering what kind of punishment you can come up with to deter people from going on insane killing sprees. Especially in China, where they actually do take that death penalty thing seriously.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: The Brain on April 29, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
In Blackadder they had some ideas. "-A fate even worse than a fate worse than death? That's pretty bad..."
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Slargos on April 29, 2010, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 29, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Yeah, I am wondering what kind of punishment you can come up with to deter people from going on insane killing sprees. Especially in China, where they actually do take that death penalty thing seriously.

Death by water torture?

If you know you will be in constant agony for weeks, maybe that will deter some of them.  :sleep:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Josquius on April 30, 2010, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 29, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Yeah, I am wondering what kind of punishment you can come up with to deter people from going on insane killing sprees. Especially in China, where they actually do take that death penalty thing seriously.
Isn't destroying their bloodline the old Chinese way?
Or is that some other fucked up ancient folk
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 29, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
Because if they had more they'd be expendable?

Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: garbon on April 30, 2010, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.

I don't think it works that way. :unsure:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Jaron on April 30, 2010, 12:54:50 AM
I can see where hes coming from though. For parents to lose their whole family in one day is a lot to deal with. Plus in China that's their future source of support and such. So losing your only kid means you start all over and have no investment in your future.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: garbon on April 30, 2010, 01:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jaron on April 30, 2010, 12:54:50 AM
So losing your only kid means you start all over and have no investment in your future.

Have another child...

Which is why I don't really by the argument that it is less devastating to lose a child if you have others to spare.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: The Brain on April 30, 2010, 01:14:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 30, 2010, 01:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jaron on April 30, 2010, 12:54:50 AM
So losing your only kid means you start all over and have no investment in your future.

Have another child...

Which is why I don't really by the argument that it is less devastating to lose a child if you have others to spare.

If you have other kids completely giving in to grief isn't an option, you have to keep going and keep building your life. Plus they will keep you occupied which generally promotes mental well-being.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 30, 2010, 01:25:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 30, 2010, 01:00:16 AM
Have another child...

Which is why I don't really by the argument that it is less devastating to lose a child if you have others to spare.

A lot of women will be too old have another child.  Too late for them to start again. 
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2010, 05:20:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 29, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
Because if they had more they'd be expendable?

Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.

:lol:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: merithyn on April 30, 2010, 07:32:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.

:blink:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Berkut on April 30, 2010, 07:49:34 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM


Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.

Crunch all you want! We'll make more!
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: merithyn on April 30, 2010, 07:32:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Well, no, though I think parents with multiple children may be better able to cope with the loss of one.

:blink:

What Brain said-
QuoteIf you have other kids completely giving in to grief isn't an option, you have to keep going and keep building your life. Plus they will keep you occupied which generally promotes mental well-being.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on April 30, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
Wow. You probably have to be a real fuck-up to be chronically unemployed in China.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: garbon on April 30, 2010, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 30, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
What Brain said-
QuoteIf you have other kids completely giving in to grief isn't an option, you have to keep going and keep building your life. Plus they will keep you occupied which generally promotes mental well-being.

When the real parents turn against you, you are probably wrong. :console:
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2010, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 30, 2010, 01:16:37 PM
When the real parents turn against you, you are probably wrong. :console:

It's strictly a hypothetical for most of them too. My anecdotal evidence of having parents who lost a child is at least as strong as that of being a parent who hasn't.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2010, 02:24:18 PM
Also, I'd like to point out the word "may" in my original comment. I'm not saying that there's any hard and fast rule for how people deal with grief.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: C.C.R. on April 30, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 30, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
Wow. You probably have to be a real fuck-up to be chronically unemployed in China.

Well, given that the guy stabbed and/or slashed 31 people without managing to kill *ANY* of them I'd say that he's even a fuck-up at being a fuck-up...
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Berkut on April 30, 2010, 04:05:47 PM
No kidding, you would think he would kill someone if only by accident if he stabbed 31 people.
Title: Re: Unemployed Chinaman? Take it out on kids!
Post by: Caliga on April 30, 2010, 07:11:39 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 29, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Yeah, I am wondering what kind of punishment you can come up with to deter people from going on insane killing sprees. Especially in China, where they actually do take that death penalty thing seriously.
I know!  How about punishing them before they even commit the crime in the first place. :smarty: