Goldman Sachs could take some lessons here:
QuoteChaos marks Ukraine base debate
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Smoke bombs were thrown as politicians debated an agreement with Russia over its naval fleet [AFP]
A government move to extend leasing rights for a Russian naval base in Ukraine has been ratified by the country's parliament amid angry protests by the opposition.
Opponents hurled eggs and detonated smoke bombs inside the parliament chamber, disrupting Tuesday's debate over the agreement.
Thousands of protesters also gathered outside the parliament building to demonstrate against the deal, which will allow Russia to keep its Black Sea fleet in Ukraine until 2042.
The chamber of the parliament filled with smoke as smoke bombs were released and Volodymyr Litvyn, the speaker, took shelter under his umbrella as eggs rained down on him.
But despite the disruption, the chamber managed to pass the agreement. Russia's state Duma also ratified the deal in a unanimous vote.
The approvals came a week after Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, and Viktor Yanukovych, his Ukranian counterpart, signed the deal over the navy base in Ukraine's Crimea region.
But Ukraine's opposition has criticised the renewal of the lease as a historic surrender of sovereignty.
Betrayal of interests
Ukrainian nationalists led by Yulia Tymoshenko, the former prime minister, and Viktor Yushchenko, the former president, regard the base deal as a betrayal of Ukraine's national interests.
They wanted to remove it when the existing lease runs out in 2017.
Several politicians shouted "Shame, shame!" during Tuesday's debate as the parliament ratified the pact, with some 236 of the 450 seat chamber voting in favour.
Deputies also started fighting over a large Ukrainian flag in the middle of the chamber, twisting and distorting the yellow-and-blue banner as smoke continued to billow in the chamber.
Amid the chaos, some deputies tried to carry on with their business, with speakers taking to the floor.
Outside the building, thousands of supporters of Ukraine's former pro-Western government condemned the decision, shouting "Death to Traitors" and "Crimea is Ours".
A counter-rally was also staged, with demonstrators brandishing banners with slogans such as "Ukraine and Russia: Strategic Partners".
Alexander Pikayev, deputy head of the committee of scientists for global security, based in Moscow, told Al Jazeera that the "strategic position" of the naval base was important to Russia.
"Whoever has major a naval base in Crimea actually has control over the whole sea. Secondly, the Russian coast doesn't have a base suitable to deploy a Russian Black Sea fleet and they would have to invest maybe a $1bn to build an autonomous base there.
"During the last several years, we've seen such scenes like today every two months, but what's new is that the Ukrainian parliament adopted the agreement so quickly - within seven minutes, so that's the surprise here," he said.
Russian gas deal
The fleet deal makes Ukraine eligible to receive a 30 per cent discount on gas imports in return for extending the lease on the base in Crimea.
It marks a dramatic turnaround in the country's ties with Russia, which had refused to do business with Ukraine's previous government.
Vladimir Putin, Russia's prime minister, held talks earlier on Tuesday with Ukraine's leadership, offering an unprecedented nuclear co-operation deal and admitting the gas deal had hurt the Russian budget.
"It's going to be a burden, of course. And a major one," Putin said of the gas deal after talks with Yanukovych and Mykola Azarov, Ukraine's prime minister.
"The amount that this has cost us is really something else. For this kind of money I could have eaten Yanukovych and your prime minister together."
I admire the way that Vlad longs to serve man. :)
Video of the...antics :
http://video.nytimes.com/video/2010/04/27/world/europe/1247467716653/ukraine-fight-over-black-sea-vote.html
Do all Ukraine's base belong to Russia? :hmm:
QuoteRussia's state Duma also ratified the deal in a unanimous vote.
That right there tells you the Ukrainians got raped.
Quote from: Savonarola on April 27, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Goldman Sachs could take some lessons here:
"The amount that this has cost us is really something else. For this kind of money I could have eaten Yanukovych and your prime minister together."
I admire the way that Vlad longs to serve man. :)
Russians want to eat Ukranians?
You know very well "dog bites man" isn't news. :P
Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2010, 02:16:05 PM
QuoteRussia's state Duma also ratified the deal in a unanimous vote.
That right there tells you the Ukrainians got raped.
Doubtful, this is one of those issues where being in opposition would be a suicide, even if Duma weren't just Putin's puppet. Russians are very, very sensitive about their territories, even when their territories are located in other countries.
Quote from: Savonarola on April 27, 2010, 01:05:41 PMQuote
"It's going to be a burden, of course. And a major one," Putin said of the gas deal after talks with Yanukovych and Mykola Azarov, Ukraine's prime minister.
"The amount that this has cost us is really something else. For this kind of money I could have eaten Yanukovych and your prime minister together."
I admire the way that Vlad longs to serve man. :)
WTF? That has to be a bad translation, even given Putin's penchant for saying utterly bizarre things when trying to speak off the cuff. I have to look for the Russian quote now.
That translation was correct. :huh: Putin sure has a tenuous relationship with human language at times.
Well, the Ukrainians elected themselves a quisling, so this is to be expected. Hopefully, the Ukrainians will have a civil war and butcher the Russian element in their midst.
Quote from: DGuller on April 27, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
That translation was correct. :huh: Putin sure has a tenuous relationship with human language at times.
Putin is going to be so disappointed the day he pulls off the mask to reveal he is some sort of horrible giant space insect and nobody is surprised.
Quote from: Jaron on April 27, 2010, 02:07:08 PM
Do all Ukraine's base belong to Russia? :hmm:
Yes, they do.
Not that Crimea is particularly Ukrainian except by Soviet decree.
Maybe the Ukranians would rather a NATO base in the Crimea.... or better yet, maybe a Venezuelan one. ;)
Quote from: Razgovory on April 27, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 27, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
That translation was correct. :huh: Putin sure has a tenuous relationship with human language at times.
Putin is going to be so disappointed the day he pulls off the mask to reveal he is some sort of horrible giant space insect and nobody is surprised.
:lol:
Or on second thought:
:hmm:
2042? Holy crap thats a long shackle....