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Title: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Siege on April 21, 2010, 05:36:14 AM
School lunches called a national security threat
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WASHINGTON - School lunches have been called many things, but a group of retired military officers is giving them a new label: national security threat.
That's not a reference to the mystery meat served up in the cafeteria line either. The retired officers are saying that school lunches have helped make the nation's young people so fat that fewer of them can meet the military's physical fitness standards, and recruitment is in jeopardy.
A new report being released Tuesday says more than 9 million young adults, or 27 percent of all Americans ages 17 to 24, are too overweight to join the military. Now, the officers are advocating for passage of a wide-ranging nutrition bill that aims to make the nation's school lunches healthier.

The officers' group, Mission: Readiness (http://www.missionreadiness.org/), was appearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.
The military group acknowledges that other things keep young adults out of the armed services, such as a criminal record or the lack of a high school diploma. But weight problems that have worsened over the past 15 years are now the leading medical reason that recruits are rejected.
Although all branches of the military now meet or exceed recruitment goals, retired Navy Rear Adm. James Barnett Jr., a member of the officers group, says the obesity trend could affect that.
"When over a quarter of young adults are too fat to fight, we need to take notice," Barnett said. He noted that national security in the year 2030 is "absolutely dependent" on reversing child obesity rates.
Recruitment isn't the only problem posed by obesity. According to the report, the government spends tens of millions of dollars every year to train replacements for service members discharged because of weight problems.

Full circle[/]This isn't the first time the military has gotten involved in the debate over school lunches. During World War II, military leaders had the opposite problem, reporting that many recruits were rejected because of stunted growth and inadequate nutrition. After the war, military leaders pushed Congress to establish the national school lunch program so children would grow up healthier.
The program was established in 1946, "as a measure of national security," according to the original bill language.

Today, the group is urging Congress to eliminate junk food and high-calorie beverages from schools, put more money into the school lunch program and develop new strategies that help children develop healthier habits.

The school lunch bill, currently awaiting a Senate vote, would establish healthier options for all foods in schools, including vending machine items. The legislation would spend $4.5 billion more over 10 years for nutrition programs.

The Army is already doing its part to catch the problem earlier, working with high schoolers and interested recruits to lose weight before they are eligible for service, says U.S. Army Recruiting Command's Mark Howell. He added that he had to lose 10 pounds himself before he joined the military.
"This is the future of our Army we are looking at when we talk about these 17- to 24-year-olds," Howell said. "The sad thing is a lot of them want to join but can't."


Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Siege on April 21, 2010, 05:37:13 AM
Well, at least 3/4 of american kids still good for filling the ranks.

Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: The Brain on April 21, 2010, 05:45:03 AM
Wait, the Feds want to feed kids all over the country God knows what? What about states' rights?
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 21, 2010, 05:45:41 AM
The chunky recruits can be useful as REMFs, ballast, emergency rations, shock absorbers, and naturally bullet shields.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: The Brain on April 21, 2010, 05:48:19 AM
Not to mention fat people are jollier and have great personalities.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Josquius on April 21, 2010, 06:02:13 AM
So you have to train them a little bit harder. Boo hoo.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 21, 2010, 06:02:13 AM
So you have to train them a little bit harder. Boo hoo.
Yeah, I was thinking that. Sending all willing chubby recruits to a pre-training fitness boot camp would be a win-win situation, I'd have thought.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: The Brain on April 21, 2010, 06:06:51 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 21, 2010, 06:02:13 AM
So you have to train them a little bit harder. Boo hoo.
Yeah, I was thinking that. Sending all willing chubby recruits to a pre-training fitness boot camp would be a win-win situation, I'd have thought.

Sorry won't work,  fat people are lazy.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Monoriu on April 21, 2010, 06:07:42 AM
Instead of changing lunch standards, which affect tons of students who have no interest in joining the military whatsoever, why doesn't the military change recruitment and training procedures?  Why not accept obese recruits and train them to meet fitness standards within a reasonable time period?
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2010, 06:09:15 AM
Maybe the military should whip those kids in to shape when they sign up instead of expecting them to be already fit.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: The Brain on April 21, 2010, 06:14:35 AM
If Americans stop being fat the terrorists will have won.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:15:11 AM
I recommend re-introducing the school lunches of my youth, which were so shit no-one wanted to eat them.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 21, 2010, 06:23:09 AM
My buddy in the Marines said they put all the fatties in fat platoon in boot camp
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Caliga on April 21, 2010, 06:51:57 AM
Undescriptive title!!! :mad:
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2010, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Yeah, I was thinking that. Sending all willing chubby recruits to a pre-training fitness boot camp would be a win-win situation, I'd have thought.
How much time out of a 2 year enlistment do you figure that would take?
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Ed Anger on April 21, 2010, 07:33:35 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:15:11 AM
I recommend re-introducing the school lunches of my youth, which were so shit no-one wanted to eat them.

I miss the soy burgers of my youth.  :(
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: KRonn on April 21, 2010, 07:45:19 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2010, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Yeah, I was thinking that. Sending all willing chubby recruits to a pre-training fitness boot camp would be a win-win situation, I'd have thought.
How much time out of a 2 year enlistment do you figure that would take?
It would have to take more time and money to get these recruits into condition to qualify. Plus I'd think there's a more likely problem for people over weight at a young age to have problems with weight later on during their time in the military, having trouble remaining qualified.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: DGuller on April 21, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
Meh, if it takes an excuse as weak as this to stop feeding garbage to children, then go for it.  I'd prefer people to call spade a spade, and say that fattening the kids is just utterly morally irresponsible, but you take what you can get.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 21, 2010, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 21, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
Meh, if it takes an excuse as weak as this to stop feeding garbage to children, then go for it.  I'd prefer people to call spade a spade, and say that fattening the kids is just utterly morally irresponsible, but you take what you can get.

But fat kids are funny. If we start making them healthy, who can we make fun of? :(
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Berkut on April 21, 2010, 08:39:19 AM
When I went to basic, part of the pre-processing was a PT test, and if you failed it, you got sent to the fat platoon pre-basic camp thing.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Monoriu on April 21, 2010, 08:39:55 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2010, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Yeah, I was thinking that. Sending all willing chubby recruits to a pre-training fitness boot camp would be a win-win situation, I'd have thought.
How much time out of a 2 year enlistment do you figure that would take?

Then change the rules.  Anyone who is above xx kg when signing up must sign a 3 year enlistment, the first xx months of which is spent getting into shape. 
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: dps on April 21, 2010, 08:55:35 PM
The government had no business using the school system to provide lunches to students in the first place.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Razgovory on April 21, 2010, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: dps on April 21, 2010, 08:55:35 PM
The government had no business using the school system to provide lunches to students in the first place.

Or having a military for that matter.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: derspiess on April 21, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 21, 2010, 06:07:42 AM
Instead of changing lunch standards, which affect tons of students who have no interest in joining the military whatsoever, why doesn't the military change recruitment and training procedures?  Why not accept obese recruits and train them to meet fitness standards within a reasonable time period?

You should know the answer: it's more costly to spend extra time training obese recruits or to send them to a fat camp.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Faeelin on April 21, 2010, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 21, 2010, 05:37:13 AM
Well, at least 3/4 of american kids still good for filling the ranks.

Less. The gays are more likely to be in good shape.
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Mr.Penguin on April 21, 2010, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 21, 2010, 05:37:13 AM
Well, at least 3/4 of american kids still good for filling the ranks.

But they dont have the right level of education, other health issues or criminal record, so you are left with a number about  1/3 to fill the ranks...
Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Lucidor on April 22, 2010, 12:12:42 AM
Seriously, who'd win this?

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Title: Re: School lunches called a national security threat
Post by: Razgovory on April 22, 2010, 02:53:24 AM
How long a timeframe are we looking at?