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Title: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: garbon on March 27, 2010, 01:16:11 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100326/ap_on_hi_te/us_cyberbullying_suicide

QuoteWEST ISLIP, N.Y. – A community reeling from the suicide of a popular high school senior turned its sorrow to outrage Friday over a practice known as "trolling," in which derogatory, hurtful comments are posted online against a person.

In this instance, a tribute site created for Alexis Pilkington, 17, of West Islip High School was the target of insulting messages after her death.

"I think it's horrible. It's vicious. It's cruel. It upsets me as a parent," Lorraine Kolar said as she left a memorial service Thursday for Pilkington.

Classmates, relatives and friends were incensed over what they called creepy, insensitive messages about Pilkington, many posted anonymously and also appearing on other Internet sites since her death.

"It's a disgrace," said Cathi Musemeci, a close friend of the family. "I think it's horrible. Let the girl die in peace."

"Trolling is part of the dark side of cyberspace," said Anne Collier, co-director of the Salt Lake City-based Connectsafely.org, a forum about safety issues on the Internet and social Web sites.

"It's not necessarily tied to any school activity," she said. "It's quite anonymous and random and is usually seen as aggressive, egregious cruelty on the Internet. The people who sit behind computers and do this are known as trolls."


Pilkington received harassing Internet messages even before she killed herself last Sunday. Her parents and other relatives insist she had been troubled for some time. They don't believe the messages were a major factor in her death.

"It had nothing to do with that," said Musemeci. "Lexi was in a lot of pain. She was hurting."

Still formspring.me, a social networking site that was flooded with mean-spirited messages and graphic images, has been the target of much of the town's anger.

About two dozen West Islip High School students sported white T-shirts Friday painted with neon green and orange lettering declaring "Boycott Formspring" and gathered petitions outside the school.

"We just want it off the Internet," said organizer Billy Crawford, a West Islip senior. "If you have anything to say to somebody, there's no reason you shouldn't say it to their face."

A Formspring spokeswoman said the company changed its service in response. Users can now decide whether to decline anonymous questions or allow them. They can also opt to allow them only from a user who is logged into the system, said spokeswoman Margit Wennmachers.

Some Facebook postings, which are not anonymous, also came under scrutiny for negative comments posted about the girl after her death. Facebook spokesman Andrew Noyes said the company does not condone cyberbullying, and said it would disable accounts that are found to be intimidating others.

Frank Stallone, deputy chief of detectives for the Suffolk police, said the department's computer crimes unit was investigating. He said it is often difficult to prosecute such cases, though.

"Sometimes being offensive or crude doesn't always amount to doing something illegal," he said.

Also, he added, "trolling" is difficult to prosecute because offenders "could come from any place in the world.

Stallone said that unless a Pilkington family member files a complaint, the police cannot do much.

More than 15 states have laws making cyberbullying a crime or making it easier to investigate or prosecute, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. New York does not have such a law, although a bill has been proposed to stiffen penalties for hazing if it occurs online.

Federal legislation has been proposed that would give prosecutors the ability to punish people who use electronic means to engage in severe cyberbullying — defined as repeated, hostile and severe communication made with an intent to harm.

Fate, D4Guller, Jaron, Msil, and Alex consider yourselves on watch. :angry:
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: The Brain on March 27, 2010, 01:19:09 AM
America sucks.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: garbon on March 27, 2010, 01:20:31 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 27, 2010, 01:19:09 AM
America sucks.

Swallowing isn't so bad.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 01:23:10 AM
I always had more taste in my trolling than to cross those kinds of lines. The worst I ever did regarding death was "dead as a MRF". And I stole that from Scipio.

The trolling I've seen lately regarding deaths nearly turned my stomach. I saw one for a California girl who was raped and murdered where the trolls (I think they were from 4chan) made pictures of the girls head photoshopped into her murderers hand and then posted it all over a dedication page set up by the girls family and threatened not to leave until the webmaster posted something saying they yield.

I was never that cold or heartless. How dare you include my name in this.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Syt on March 27, 2010, 01:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 01:23:10 AM
I always had more taste in my trolling than to cross those kinds of lines. The worst I ever did regarding death was "dead as a MRF". And I stole that from Scipio.

What about the time when you asked for an EUMP AAR update from a guy who had recently died?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Razgovory on March 27, 2010, 02:15:04 AM
So was he: Hardcore?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Alexandru H. on March 27, 2010, 03:27:12 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 27, 2010, 01:16:11 AM
Fate, D4Guller, Jaron, Msil, and Alex consider yourselves on watch. :angry:

All right, sir!
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Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 04:40:07 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 27, 2010, 01:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 01:23:10 AM
I always had more taste in my trolling than to cross those kinds of lines. The worst I ever did regarding death was "dead as a MRF". And I stole that from Scipio.

What about the time when you asked for an EUMP AAR update from a guy who had recently died?

While it could definitely be said maybe it was in bad taste, and in retrospect I should have probably refrained from that particular episode, it still was a victimless crime so to speak.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 04:51:15 AM
People say mean stuff over the internet. Film at 11.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: Alexandru H. on March 27, 2010, 03:27:12 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 27, 2010, 01:16:11 AM
Fate, D4Guller, Jaron, Msil, and Alex consider yourselves on watch. :angry:

All right, sir!
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Homofascism. :wub:
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Viking on March 27, 2010, 05:00:41 AM
suicide victim? WTF? suicide perpetrator :contract:
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 05:02:36 AM
Some comments:

Quote"I think it's horrible. Let the girl die in peace."
I thought she was dead already.  :huh:

QuoteAbout two dozen West Islip High School students sported white T-shirts Friday painted with neon green and orange lettering declaring "Boycott Formspring" and gathered petitions outside the school.

LOL

Quote"If you have anything to say to somebody, there's no reason you shouldn't say it to their face."

Kinda hard when they are dead. 

Besides, isn't the ability to say something to someone why they are not in the room with you THE ENTIRE FUCKING CONCEPT OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION?

Idiot kid.

Quote"Sometimes being offensive or crude doesn't always amount to doing something illegal," he said.

Ya think?

QuoteNew York does not have such a law, although a bill has been proposed to stiffen penalties for hazing if it occurs online.

What the fuck? Why should I feel more offended for, say, someone calling me a faggot on the internet than I would be if someone said it to my face?

Quoterepeated, hostile and severe communication made with an intent to harm.

What happened to "sticks and stones" etc.? Unlike real life bullying, which often includes beating, pushing, extortion etc., "cyber bulling" is PURELY WORDS (and images) ffs. What the fuck happened to kids these days that they are so fucking weak?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 05:04:28 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 27, 2010, 05:00:41 AM
suicide victim? WTF? suicide perpetrator :contract:

Yeah. She is going to hell.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Viking on March 27, 2010, 05:36:09 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 05:04:28 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 27, 2010, 05:00:41 AM
suicide victim? WTF? suicide perpetrator :contract:

Yeah. She is going to hell.

Found god have you?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 06:24:48 AM
The old perv was hiding in my closet.
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Viking on March 27, 2010, 06:41:08 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 27, 2010, 06:24:48 AM
The old perv was hiding in my closet.

In a Fags closet? Does this mean GOD is LOL: Straight?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: garbon on March 27, 2010, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 04:40:07 AM
While it could definitely be said maybe it was in bad taste, and in retrospect I should have probably refrained from that particular episode, it still was a victimless crime so to speak.

Because the victim was already dead?
Title: Re: NY town angry over Net slurs at suicide victim
Post by: Jaron on March 27, 2010, 04:49:23 PM
That and he had no friends or family on this forum. Merely passing acquintances.