So she is a bit crazy. Ok, more than a bit crazy. But seriously. These kids live in like worst world shitholes, with most people having AIDS or dying of starvation or of some terrorist/rebels. These children have like one chance in a million to get a mother like Madonna - it's like winning a fucking lottery ticket.
So why are people all hating on her?
LEAVE MADONNA ALONE!!!!! :cry:
In other news, I just had a Martini. :P
She is into Sionist occultism. :mad:
We are lucky she even performs for us!! :cry:
Anyway who is hating on Madonna? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Well, I understand she went to Malawi wanting to adopt another kid, and she is getting flamed for that a lot. Plus, apparently local courts denied her the right to adopt some orphan because Madonna is "unfit to be a mother". :rolleyes:
It's a stupid publicity stunt by a has-been whack-job who is looking more & more like Skeletor each day. That's enough for me to oppose it.
On the plus side, maybe she'd teach him a nice fake British accent :D
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2009, 12:44:14 PM
We are lucky she even performs for us!! :cry:
Anyway who is hating on Madonna? I have no idea what you are talking about.
The Advocate found some guy in Buttholistan who smiled and nodded when they asked him if Madonna was a bad person for kiddie shopping in the 3rd world. :rolleyes:
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 12:45:25 PM
It's a stupid publicity stunt by a has-been whack-job who is looking more & more like Skeletor each day. That's enough for me to oppose it.
On the plus side, maybe she'd teach him a nice fake British accent :D
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
And besides, even if she is doing this for publicity (I don't think she is - I think she is acting out of some sort of a sense of duty to humanity and whatnot), the kid is likely to have a better life than any alternative he or she could have had in her shitty country. Why not appreciate that?
Quote from: The Brain on April 07, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2009, 12:44:14 PM
We are lucky she even performs for us!! :cry:
Anyway who is hating on Madonna? I have no idea what you are talking about.
The Advocate found some guy in Buttholistan who smiled and nodded when they asked him if Madonna was a bad person for kiddie shopping in the 3rd world. :rolleyes:
Speaking of which, I wonder if I can make my Advocate subscription fee tax-deductible, claiming it as a professional expense. :unsure:
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
Remember: Gays aren't everything.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
She's too old to be "in" as a pop star and her attempted transition to acting failed. She's a has-been.
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 07, 2009, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
She's too old to be "in" as a pop star and her attempted transition to acting failed. She's a has-been.
:yes:
And adopting thirld world kids is the latest celebrity fashion, as very rightly parodied in the Brüno trailer.
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
Remember: Gays aren't everything.
Gays are everything that counts.
Who's Madonna?
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
So she is a bit crazy. Ok, more than a bit crazy. But seriously. These kids live in like worst world shitholes, with most people having AIDS or dying of starvation or of some terrorist/rebels. These children have like one chance in a million to get a mother like Madonna - it's like winning a fucking lottery ticket.
So why are people all hating on her?
I think you may have described the reasons for the "hate". Some people find Madonna's adoptions morally questionable and less than good deeds. If Madonna really wanted to help, she wouldn't abduct little Mbombo Tmubmokekeke from his surroundings in Eastern Ebolaland, but rather invest heavily in his education and the social fabric around him in his native country.
Then again, all charity basically serves to make people feel good, and personally, I couldn't care less about Madonna's adoptions. However, for some people, the ones left behind are more important than little Mbombo who was SAVED by the grace of The Virgin-Like.
This is the same logic that has the people condemn the US for toppling Saddam only because they are not at the same time tackling other regimes.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
:D
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
This is the same logic that has the people condemn the US for toppling Saddam only because they are not at the same time tackling other regimes.
That is what haters do.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
Remember: Gays aren't everything.
Gays are everything that counts.
And that's your mistake, and why you cannot be counted upon to properly judge culture.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
If only we were all so lucky. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
Doh! Zing.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
Ah to be old and angry :console:
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
Ah to be old and angry :console:
Feels great. :menace:
Better question: Why has Madonna gotten anything but hate since she ceased to be dimly relevant in the early 90's?
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
This is the same logic that has the people condemn the US for toppling Saddam only because they are not at the same time tackling other regimes.
Yes.
So now that you know why people hate Madonna's adoptions, I suggest you make your peace with the fact that there's a vast spectrum of opinions out there, regardless of the issue and focus on things you can actually do something about. :P
Quote from: vinraith on April 07, 2009, 01:58:21 PM
Better question: Why has Madonna gotten anything but hate since she ceased to be dimly relevant in the early 90's?
Didn't she have a pop revival in the late 90s?
Still, she gets shit for much the same reason that Michael Jackson does: Creepy.
Quote from: Norgy on April 07, 2009, 01:47:22 PM
I think you may have described the reasons for the "hate". Some people find Madonna's adoptions morally questionable and less than good deeds. If Madonna really wanted to help, she wouldn't abduct little Mbombo Tmubmokekeke from his surroundings in Eastern Ebolaland, but rather invest heavily in his education and the social fabric around him in his native country.
Then again, all charity basically serves to make people feel good, and personally, I couldn't care less about Madonna's adoptions. However, for some people, the ones left behind are more important than little Mbombo who was SAVED by the grace of The Virgin-Like.
There may be some truth in this, as to what some people might feel. I'm a bit surprised by the anger directed at Madonna, and I'm no fan of hers. I don't know what her motives are; maybe she is doing it for some self-gratification but she's still trying to do a good thing. I guess, or assume, that people in the community where the child comes from don't want to see the kid leave? They may feel that could happen, or already is happening, to many of their children, and would rather the kids remain in their own culture? Maybe they don't like the idea of someone so wealthy being able to dictate things?
Quote from: KRonn on April 07, 2009, 02:10:07 PM
Maybe they don't like the idea of someone so wealthy being able to dictate things?
I think this may be the basic objection, then it is concealed by a veneer of anti-imperialism.
I think the main reason is the fact that she is not the first celebrity to chain-adopt. And buying a kid like a piece of classy clothing is disgusting.
While adopting children is very admirable given our overpopulation, Madonna and that Tomb Raider chick just seem to come off like they're collecting Pokemons.
I've got no problem with her adopting. Let her adopt a bunch more.
Quote from: Tamas on April 07, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
I think the main reason is the fact that she is not the first celebrity to chain-adopt. And buying a kid like a piece of classy clothing is disgusting.
More childish than disgusting. It's like a little girl collecting dolls.
The only way that her behavior would be acceptable was if she was going to eat the child.
Quote from: Tamas on April 07, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
I think the main reason is the fact that she is not the first celebrity to chain-adopt. And buying a kid like a piece of classy clothing is disgusting.
The way I see it, she could be spending all her money like most other rich celebrities - on yachts, drugs or classy clothing, as you put it yourself. Yes, perhaps she is doing this for self-gratification, but still she is making these kids' lives better unlike hundreds and thousands of other celebrities and rich people.
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 07, 2009, 02:21:06 PM
While adopting children is very admirable given our overpopulation, Madonna and that Tomb Raider chick just seem to come off like they're collecting Pokemons.
How is adopting children easing overpopulation? Instead, I would think that it would be enabling it.
If Madonna wanted to ease overpopulation, she'd invest in a satellite that can sterilize Africans, Muslims and Latin Americans from orbit.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
The fact that you can walk the streets without being beaten to death says a lot about how rotten our society is.
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
The fact that you can walk the streets without being beaten to death says a lot about how rotten our society is.
Seriously, your shtick is getting boring. At least I don't pretend to be a crazy fundie to fuck some porker with a rich dad.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
Yeah tabloid readers and other scum passing worthless opinions about a celebrity is really indicative about our society. It says alot about celebrity naval gazers though.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
The fact that you can walk the streets without being beaten to death says a lot about how rotten our society is.
Seriously, your shtick is getting boring. At least I don't pretend to be a crazy fundie to fuck some porker with a rich dad.
Quit cribbing Money's lines. It's funny when he does it, because it's a character. My family is the wealthy one in the relationship. And as for pretending to be a crazy fundie, I didn't have to do that either. I just had to pretend to accept Jesus and then not mock them to their faces.
Besides, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'll stop my schtick when you stop yours.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 07, 2009, 02:21:06 PM
While adopting children is very admirable given our overpopulation, Madonna and that Tomb Raider chick just seem to come off like they're collecting Pokemons.
:D
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 02:40:11 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
You may not immediately jump on her bandwagon for that, but the fact that she is actually getting hate for what she does - unlike all the people who do nothing at all - tells a lot about how rotten our society is.
The fact that you can walk the streets without being beaten to death says a lot about how rotten our society is.
Seriously, your shtick is getting boring. At least I don't pretend to be a crazy fundie to fuck some porker with a rich dad.
Quit cribbing Money's lines. It's funny when he does it, because it's a character. My family is the wealthy one in the relationship. And as for pretending to be a crazy fundie, I didn't have to do that either. I just had to pretend to accept Jesus and then not mock them to their faces.
Besides, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'll stop my schtick when you stop yours.
Aww, so she IS a porker? I'm sorry. :(
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:48:07 PM
Aww, so she IS a porker? I'm sorry. :(
Softer the cushion.
What's wrong with collecting Pokemons?
Quote from: The Brain on April 07, 2009, 02:49:40 PM
What's wrong with collecting Pokemons?
let me show you my pokemans.
Actually, what Madonna brings home is more like a black, live Tamaguchi.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 02:48:07 PM
Aww, so she IS a porker? I'm sorry. :(
Actually, my wife is rather lovely. I just assumed you were indulging in Grallonesque misogyny (women=pigs).
Better question. Why is Madonna always defended by gays.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 07, 2009, 03:08:29 PM
Better question. Why is Madonna always defended by gays.
Hasn't she gone out of her way to court their affection? I know Cher has done so, and I assume that's one of the reasons they love her so much.
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2009, 12:44:14 PM
We are lucky she even performs for us!! :cry:
Anyway who is hating on Madonna? I have no idea what you are talking about.
It's all the rave in the tabloids.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:45:08 PM
Well, I understand she went to Malawi wanting to adopt another kid, and she is getting flamed for that a lot. Plus, apparently local courts denied her the right to adopt some orphan because Madonna is "unfit to be a mother". :rolleyes:
I thought it was because she was not a resident of Malawi for 2 months...:unsure:
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 12:45:25 PM
It's a stupid publicity stunt by a has-been whack-job who is looking more & more like Skeletor each day. That's enough for me to oppose it.
On the plus side, maybe she'd teach him a nice fake British accent :D
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
And besides, even if she is doing this for publicity (I don't think she is - I think she is acting out of some sort of a sense of duty to humanity and whatnot), the kid is likely to have a better life than any alternative he or she could have had in her shitty country. Why not appreciate that?
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
I am looking to adopt. Would you call me daddy while wearing a schoolgirl outfit?
Quote from: Norgy on April 07, 2009, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
So she is a bit crazy. Ok, more than a bit crazy. But seriously. These kids live in like worst world shitholes, with most people having AIDS or dying of starvation or of some terrorist/rebels. These children have like one chance in a million to get a mother like Madonna - it's like winning a fucking lottery ticket.
So why are people all hating on her?
I think you may have described the reasons for the "hate". Some people find Madonna's adoptions morally questionable and less than good deeds. If Madonna really wanted to help, she wouldn't abduct little Mbombo Tmubmokekeke from his surroundings in Eastern Ebolaland, but rather invest heavily in his education and the social fabric around him in his native country.
Then again, all charity basically serves to make people feel good, and personally, I couldn't care less about Madonna's adoptions. However, for some people, the ones left behind are more important than little Mbombo who was SAVED by the grace of The Virgin-Like.
Well, supposedly she already donates ball loads of money to the Malawi orphanages.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Who's Madonna?
Madonna doesn't cut herself, whine in her songs or dress totally in black clothes. Therefore, she is invisible to Gay Fox.
:lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
I am looking to adopt. Would you call me daddy while wearing a schoolgirl outfit?
Sure thing, Daddy. ;)
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
I am looking to adopt. Would you call me daddy while wearing a schoolgirl outfit?
Sure thing, Daddy. ;)
Call me Big Daddy. I'll be wearing a white suit and you can sit on my lap.
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcPkqJuZwxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcPkqJuZwxQ)
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 07, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
Yeah, I wish Madonna would adopt me. :cry:
I am looking to adopt. Would you call me daddy while wearing a schoolgirl outfit?
Sure thing, Daddy. ;)
Call me Big Daddy. I'll be wearing a white suit and you can sit on my lap.
:lol:
Colonel Sanders?
(that's the first image that popped in my head when you said you'd be in a white suit)
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 12:45:25 PM
It's a stupid publicity stunt by a has-been whack-job who is looking more & more like Skeletor each day. That's enough for me to oppose it.
On the plus side, maybe she'd teach him a nice fake British accent :D
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
And besides, even if she is doing this for publicity (I don't think she is - I think she is acting out of some sort of a sense of duty to humanity and whatnot), the kid is likely to have a better life than any alternative he or she could have had in her shitty country. Why not appreciate that?
Sinatra and Mick Jaeger have been in longer. So there.
Damn Poles.
Mick Jaeger?
How dare Malawi have the effrontery to enforce their laws as written! Don't they understand that Western celebrities are above such trivialities as a civil code? Don't they get that because Martinus thinks they are a shithole, their entire legislative corpus automatically vanishes?
Hmmm, maybe some sarcasm by mr. movement? :unsure:
What every happened to the Martinus that lectures us on the strict application of rule of law?
His knees get a little weak from a Madonnna gaycrush, and it all goes out the window. :D
Quote from: Norgy on April 07, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
Mick Jaeger?
I almost used that name from the Brainy the Pooh short from Pinky and the Brain.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 07, 2009, 04:35:25 PM
What every happened to the Martinus that lectures us on the strict application of rule of law?
His knees get a little weak from a Madonnna gaycrush, and it all goes out the window. :D
I don't think anyone sane could maintain that Malawi legal system should trump Madonna. :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 07, 2009, 04:35:25 PM
What every happened to the Martinus that lectures us on the strict application of rule of law?
His knees get a little weak from a Madonnna gaycrush, and it all goes out the window. :D
I don't think anyone sane could maintain that Malawi legal system should trump Madonna. :P
Well I for one... Oh... :(
I sort of agree. Even if its a pure publicity stunt the kid still has a far better life than anyone back home. Better than most western kids even.
I suppose the whole issue is one of morales and letting the rich do anything, etc...
I think there's something mildly obscene about shopping for children.
Also foreign adoptions, I'm sure she's very good on this, but they do need a bit of scrutiny. There's some website in the UK government's sites that lists reputable agency because there are some criminal aspects to it in some countries.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
I think there's something mildly obscene about shopping for children.
....
Maybe she thought it was a BOGOF offer ? :bowler:
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
It was omnipresent, MTV Hits showed the video all the damn time. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
It was omnipresent, MTV Hits showed the video all the damn time. <_<
You watch MTV? What the fuck, are you gay?
Do you watch MTV Hits? Just WTF?
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 07, 2009, 04:24:23 PM
How dare Malawi have the effrontery to enforce their laws as written! Don't they understand that Western celebrities are above such trivialities as a civil code? Don't they get that because Martinus thinks they are a shithole, their entire legislative corpus automatically vanishes?
Yeah, that girl will have a better life in the orphanage!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
It was omnipresent, MTV Hits showed the video all the damn time. <_<
If it was from a time that MTV still showed videos, in pop culture terms it's ancient history.
Quote from: dps on April 08, 2009, 02:57:24 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
It was omnipresent, MTV Hits showed the video all the damn time. <_<
If it was from a time that MTV still showed videos, in pop culture terms it's ancient history.
MTV2 and its other branches do. I watcha fair bit of VH-1 and VH-1 Classics for background noise myself.
Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2009, 11:56:09 PMYeah, that girl will have a better life in the orphanage!
She'll be with her own kind. :)
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
I think there's something mildly obscene about shopping for children.
What is there that differentiates Madonna's approach from any other adoptive parents?
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 07, 2009, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
She's too old to be "in" as a pop star and her attempted transition to acting failed. She's a has-been.
A has been with more money than everyone on Languish put together will ever see. sure, maybe. I say who cares if she adopts a dozen more kids. I'm sure she can afford lots of nannies to shake the kids out right. Adoption is a good thing. Less orphans is never a bad thing. It's not like she's octo-mom or something.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 08, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
I think there's something mildly obscene about shopping for children.
What is there that differentiates Madonna's approach from any other adoptive parents?
Most adoptive parents need to go through a lot of hoops to adopt. So in the UK she probably couldn't adopt because she's in the middle of a messy divorce, apparently with a couple of love affairs going on. Agencies in this country I don't think would approve her on grounds of stability for the child.
So, sure, lots of parents in this country could avoid the hassle of adopting if they had the money to cherry-pick from around the world's poor, if they had the money. I don't think that means it's okay though.
Quote from: dps on April 08, 2009, 02:57:24 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
:huh: She had a number 1 hit and album in 2005.
Wtf, are you gay now, Tim? :huh:
It was omnipresent, MTV Hits showed the video all the damn time. <_<
If it was from a time that MTV still showed videos, in pop culture terms it's ancient history.
MTV Hits is a channel that only plays music videos.
Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2009, 11:56:09 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 07, 2009, 04:24:23 PM
How dare Malawi have the effrontery to enforce their laws as written! Don't they understand that Western celebrities are above such trivialities as a civil code? Don't they get that because Martinus thinks they are a shithole, their entire legislative corpus automatically vanishes?
Yeah, that girl will have a better life in the orphanage!
No doubt there are any number of children that would have a better life with Madonna and her millions to support them then what they should have otherwise. And yet we do not give the Madonnas of the world carte blanche to seize whatever children they wish from trailer parks or poor ordinary middle class folk who can't afford swanky private schools and vacation homes on the Riviera, Miami Beach, La Maddalena, and Gstaad.
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
Madonna might still be famous in your backward country, but she is certainly a has-been in the States.
I bet Micheal Jackson is also famous in Poland.
Quote from: Siege on April 08, 2009, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
See, you are an idiot. First of all, Madonna is hardly a has-been - she has been the "in now" for longer than anyone else.
Madonna might still be famous in your backward country, but she is certainly a has-been in the States.
I bet Micheal Jackson is also famous in Poland.
Burn.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 08, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
No doubt there are any number of children that would have a better life with Madonna and her millions to support them then what they should have otherwise. And yet we do not give the Madonnas of the world carte blanche to seize whatever children they wish from trailer parks or poor ordinary middle class folk who can't afford swanky private schools and vacation homes on the Riviera, Miami Beach, La Maddalena, and Gstaad.
And then you expect me to care about poor people? :rolleyes:
Big surprise... she just won't give up.
QuoteMadonna says adopted kids would return to help their people
Madonna is appealing a Malawian judge's rejection of her adoption petition
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By Alan Duke
CNN
(CNN) -- Madonna said she hopes the Malawian girl she wants to adopt and the boy she already adopted "will one day return to Malawi and help the people of their country."
Why the fuck would they want to do that? :lol:
QuoteA judge has rejected Madonna's adoption application.
A Malawian judge this month rejected the American pop star's petition to adopt 3-year-old Chifundo "Mercy" James, but her lawyer has filed an appeal.
"I want to provide Mercy with a home, a loving family environment and the best education and health care possible," Madonna said in an e-mail to The Nation, a Malawian newspaper. "And it's my hope that she, like David, will one day return to Malawi and help the people of their country."
Madonna's statement, which her publicist provided to CNN, steered away from commenting on her legal battle.
"Though I have been advised that I cannot publicly discuss the pending appeal regarding my desire to adopt Mercy, I do want to say how much I appreciate the level of support that I have received from the people of Malawi and my friends around the world," she said.
The judge who ruled against the adoption said she had "a gripping temptation" to approve it, but decided doing so would open doors to child trafficking, court records show.
"Anyone could come to Malawi and quickly arrange for an adoption that might have grave consequences on the very children that the law seeks to protect," Justice E.J. Chombo wrote in her ruling.
The judge also said she thought the child was in good hands at an orphanage.
Another Malawian judge approved Madonna's adoption of David Banda in 2006.
Chombo's ruling followed weeks of criticism by human-rights activists, who accused the mother of three of using her fame to circumvent a residency law for foreigners adopting in the southern African country.
Save the Children UK had also urged Madonna to let the child be raised by her relatives in her home community.
The denial was applauded by a coalition of Malawian nonprofits.
"Inter-country adoption is not the best way of providing protection to children. ... Supporting children from outside our country only helps five of the 1.5 million orphans we have," said Mavuto Bamusi, national coordinator of the Malawi Human Rights Consultative Committee.
Malawi government officials have said that they supported Madonna's second adoption.
The recently divorced singer was married to British filmmaker Guy Ritchie.
She has been involved with Malawi for several years and made a documentary, "I Am Because We Are," to highlight poverty, AIDS and other diseases devastating children in that country. She also co-founded a nonprofit, Raising Malawi, which provides programs to help the needy.
:lmfao:
Suck it, Joan!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_re_af/af_malawi_madonna
QuoteMadonna can adopt 3-year-old Mercy from Malawi
There's mercy for Madonna — Malawi's highest court ruled Friday that the pop star can adopt a second child from the African nation, citing her love, determination, and "income tax returns."
In granting Madonna custody of 3-year-old Chifundo "Mercy" James, the court extended the definition of residency and brushed aside concerns by human rights groups that the nation is bending laws meant to protect children in a country where half a million have lost a parent to AIDS.
"I am ecstatic," Madonna said in a statement in which she also thanked the court. "My family and I look forward to sharing our lives with her."
Madonna's lawyer Alan Chinula said the adoption was final with Friday's ruling, although this could not immediately be confirmed. He said he would now arrange a passport for Mercy, which could take several days, and was awaiting word from Madonna on travel plans for the little girl, whose mother died soon after giving birth.
James Kambewa, a man who claims to be Mercy's father — but acknowledges he's never seen her — told CBS News: "I'm crying. I need my baby. I don't know where I can find any help," the network said.
But Peter Baneti, an uncle, said the family welcomed Friday's ruling.
"We hope Mercy will be joining Madonna soon," he said by phone from his village just outside Blantyre.
Madonna, 50, adopted a son, David, from Malawi last year. Her request to adopt Mercy was rejected in April by a lower court that said the star had not spent enough time in Malawi.
Chief Justice Lovemore Munlo, reading the three-judge appeal court panel's ruling on Friday, said that was a narrow interpretation based on old laws and that "in this global village a man can have more than one place at which he resides."
He said the singer's commitment to helping disadvantaged children also should have been taken into account in the decision.
Madonna founded a charity, Raising Malawi, here in 2006. It helps feed, educate and provide medical care for some of Malawi's orphans.
The judge said Madonna had shown herself to be "intelligent, compassionate, articulate and determined since the early age of 6 when her mother died," saying the young Madonna had helped raise her siblings.
And he said "her latest income tax returns shows that she is financially stable; she can therefore look after the needs of" the little girl.
Children's welfare groups had expressed concern that rules meant to protect children were being bent because of Madonna's celebrity, and perhaps out of gratitude for what she has done for Malawi.
When Madonna adopted David, the process took months and included a child welfare official's visit to Madonna's home, which then was in London, to review her fitness as a mother. Chinula said none of this would be necessary this time.
"What the Supreme Court has done is grant a full adoption," he said.
"The matter of residence should be determined at the time of application of the adoption," Chief Justice Munlo read. "In this case, Madonna was in Malawi not by chance but by intention. She is looking after several orphans whose welfare depends on her. She can therefore not be described as a sojourner."
The ruling also said the judges saw only two options for Mercy: "either to stay at the orphanage without the love of family and live with the possibility of destitution, or be with Madonna where she is assured of love.
"Every child has the right to love," it said.
Madonna met the girl in 2006 at Kondanani Children's Village, an orphanage in Bvumbwe, just south of Blantyre. It was the same year she began the process of adopting David, whom she found at another orphanage in central Malawi.
The girl's 18-year-old mother was unmarried and died soon after she gave birth. Since Madonna moved to adopt the girl, a dispute has arisen between the girl's maternal relatives, who agreed to the adoption, and Kambewa, who says he is the father and wants to care for the girl himself.
The girl's maternal relatives have said they do not believe Kambewa is the father, and his objections were not addressed in Friday's ruling.
The chairman of the coalition of non-governmental organizations that had opposed Madonna's adoption efforts said Friday's ruling "disregarded" international agreements on children's rights and adoptions.
Undule Mwakasungula also took issue with the argument that because Madonna has made an investment in the country and has interests there, she could be considered a resident.
"We are a bit surprised but we can't challenge it because the Supreme Court has ruled and we have to go with that," he said.
Madonna first traveled to Malawi in 2006 while filming a documentary on its devastating poverty and AIDS crisis, and later decided to adopt there. In addition to David, she has two other children: Lourdes, 12, and Rocco, 8.
Go go M-material girl!