A thread for talking about your new shit.
Today I bought Age of Conan by FFG. I haven't read the rules yet but the board and pieces look nice. I love Conan, and luckily the game doesn't have much or anything to do with the MMORPG except the name.
heh. website says they are "out of stock".
A solo game some of you may be interested in:
Where There Is Discord (http://www.fifthcolumngames.com/About.html)
Just played my first game of Age of Conan, even though we finished a bit early since it was getting late. Er...
It was great, everyone liked it a lot. About the right amount of randomness. The system for conquering provinces is just cool (you fight campaigns of different lengths and through different terrain). Conan moving through the world like a force of nature, helping and destroying as he goes.
Of course we had the Conan the Barbarian soundtrack playing. BOM-BOM-BOM-BOM-bom-bom-bom...
http://victorypointgames.com/product.php?productid=29&cat=1&page=3
Couldn't resist. $20 solitaire game about the Russian Civil War. Apparently plays in about a half-hour; should waste some more of my time. Same designer as the solitaire Israeli Independence game.
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:mmm:
Quote from: Habbaku on April 18, 2009, 02:47:20 AMCouldn't resist.
Me neither. Which is why I'm waiting for the Big Brown Truck to drop off my copy of The Devil's Cauldron today. :Embarrass:
Looks yummy, except for the fake Cyrillic letters.
Damn you, Big Brown Truck! Where the fuck are you?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
Damn you, Big Brown Truck! Where the fuck are you?
:( Monday.
Quote from: Habbaku on April 18, 2009, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
Damn you, Big Brown Truck! Where the fuck are you?
:( Monday.
It was shipped yesterday, and only travelling 32 miles, dammit. :cry:
Stupid UPS. Ruined my weekend. :mad:
Can I help in any way? :)
Quote from: The Brain on April 18, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
Can I help in any way? :)
Yeah, perform an interpretive dance of Operation Market Garden for me by jumping out of your car in traffic.
Woohoo! I love the Big Brown Truck!
Quote from: Habbaku on April 18, 2009, 02:47:20 AM
Soviet Dawn
Fun game, and it plays very, very quickly once you have the rules down. The "tech" tree that the game has to offer is very interesting and, at first, I thought that getting lucky on it would swing the game too much in the player's favor. Even after getting the Supplemental Reserves "tech," however, I did end up losing the game on my second playthrough. I swiftly turned that around for a pyrrhic political victory that saw the Allies stuck on their beachhead and the Germans (courtesy of them not leaving the war, thanks to the Bukharin Offensive) the outskirts of Moscow itself...yet international recognition came in time to save the Bolsheviks. Needless to say, there are some very tense moments when you have the choice of trying to push back a front or taking a gamble on garnering long-term bonuses.
Currently sitting at a 4-3 record with my latest win seeing every card played--and resulting in a 42 VP "International" victory that saw the Revolution exported to Poland and perhaps beyond.
Once again, I see that game designers have yet to incorporate cat-repellant maps...
MARKET GARDEN! WHAT A CAT-TASTROPHE
:lol:
Quote from: Habbaku on April 18, 2009, 02:47:20 AM
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Not enough spaces. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 22, 2009, 08:21:19 PM
Once again, I see that game designers have yet to incorporate cat-repellant maps...
MARKET GARDEN! WHAT A CAT-TASTROPHE
A cat too far :unsure:
Quote from: schaksen on April 25, 2009, 04:23:28 AMA cat too far :unsure:
Fail.
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Quote from: schaksen on April 25, 2009, 04:23:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 22, 2009, 08:21:19 PM
Once again, I see that game designers have yet to incorporate cat-repellant maps...
MARKET GARDEN! WHAT A CAT-TASTROPHE
A cat too far :unsure:
More like: Cat Devils over Arnheim.
Operation MarCat Garden.
Couple of new games coming soon from Boulder :
First up is Revolution : The Dutch Revolt http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9215.
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This should satisfy my desire for another multiplayer game about an obscure topic that, nonetheless, has manageable rules and a highly-playable format. It is, apparently, quite good as well judging from several reviews and word-of-mouth. I'm hoping to give this one a shot within the month with my little group. The protagonists are just what one might expect (Spanish, Dutch Protestants) and the not-so-predictable setups (Catholics, Burghers, Nobles). Just like in Here I Stand, each side has its own goals that may or may not conflict with another faction's--leading to some bits of diplomacy and backstabbing that is the hallmark of all fun MP games.
Next up is solitaire fare--something I've been getting into a lot more often, as of late (See recent postings of Soviet Dawn; I've also played a few missions of Avalon Hill's old B-17 game).
Fields of Fire http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22877
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FoF comes from veteran designer Ben Hull of GMT's Musket-and-Pike series (Under The Lily Banners, This Accursed Civil War, etc.). The player commands a rifle company from any one of three different eras (WW II, Korea, Vietnam) and FoF takes pains to show the comparisons and contrasts of each while also showcasing the development of better tactics and doctrine from each era. The game, just like the M&P series, had some issues upon release but, again like M&P, they've been cleared up rather quickly by the developer/designer clarifications, making it a lot easier to get into.
FoF sounds cool, would like to know more about it, since cheap skates like fahdiz and airheads like CdM make MP games impossible.
http://www.jrbaldwin.com/mixed-media/fear-and-loathing-the-board-game/ (http://www.jrbaldwin.com/mixed-media/fear-and-loathing-the-board-game/) Fear & Loathing Boardgame!!! :cool:
Quote from: katmai on June 03, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
FoF sounds cool, would like to know more about it
I'll let you know how it goes. Brown Truck should arrive either tomorrow or Friday and I plan on jumping into it fairly quickly. From what I can tell, once you get past some of the rules garbage, the game is very fun to play--and eminently replayable, considering the three, distinct eras and the variability of the terrain/missions involved. I am just happy that the game system is diceless...
The Dutch game looks fun.
Both are good choices Habs! They wear my seal of approval. :thumbsup:
Quote from: garbon on June 04, 2009, 02:19:32 AM
The Dutch game looks fun.
It's an odd game. It takes some of the mechanisms of Tresham's Civilization and complicates it. It's a couple of games before you even figure out what a reasonable plan of action is.
I gots this:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/18606
Maybe I'll get to play it in about 15 years.
I would probably pre-order this :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35614
But the shipping from UK-Land is obscene. I might do it any way; my desire to recreate a SUN headline is great.
Hey, all you cardtards....check this one out from Clash of Arms:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/42560
My pants are a tractor factory.
Thinking about ordering the new Omaha Beach and RAF(remake) by Decision games.
http://www.decisiongames.com/html/omaha_beach.html
http://www.decisiongames.com/html/raf_deluxe.html
I really should start preordering these things.
Edit: And Elusive Victory by GMT. Jews in planes? Sold.
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-125-elusive-victory.aspx
RAF is a great solitaire game. Very, very hard, but never the "omg stupid game system won't let me win" type of hard.
Hey dickfaces, Pazio is having a 50% off sale on some wargames:
http://paizo.com/store/sale/warGameClearance
The shipping is obscene though. 14 bucks on one game? Fuck that shit.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 08, 2009, 04:19:05 PM
Hey dickfaces, Pazio is having a 50% off sale on some wargames:
http://paizo.com/store/sale/warGameClearance
The shipping is obscene though. 14 bucks on one game? Fuck that shit.
Hm. Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Empire of the Sun, Clash of Giants II, Grand Illusion, perhaps even Successors 3... :mmm: A massive package will be inbound? :shifty:
Blackbeard is a disappointment though and I never bothered to get into Empire of the Sun, too much trouble.
If I were you I would check those out thoroughly at gmt's site and/or bgg before investing.
I'm rather tempted to pick up one or a few of those solitaire games. One of the ones mentioned in this thread, maybe, or Silent War (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/17484). Or wait a bit and get Steel Wolves (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22359) instead, since the German submarine campaign appears more interesting.
So what is the grognard consensus on Empire of the Sun? Looks tempting and a bit daunting. Are people PBEMing this?
Me and habs played it a couple times. It is really heavy, with pretty brutal rules, and the game play sometimes leaves something to be desired as far as it feeling historical.
I think I won our first game after sinking 12 Essex class carriers. Seemed a little off...
I suspect it is one of those games that might be very fun if you
1. Get the rules down (not easy), and
2. Don't get hung up on its ability to be a simulation of the Pacific War.
And check your PMs, damnit.
So does it worth 38 dollars? :P And would you play it with me? :P Or maybe I should just ask Habs, the prompt and brutal beatings he gives me with my first tries at games are always a great learning opportunity. :D
I didn't really care for it. It struck me as another one of Mark Herman's experiments in making a game that, while allowing historical actions, strongly discouraged them. Of particular note is the inducement (by the game's replacement system) of wanting the Americans to kamikaze their air units. Since they get a scheduled amount of steps and any extra steps are lost, the players are placed in a situation where the Americans are attacking at horrible odds with no real chance of losses.
We played with the 1.2 version of the rules, though, and the game is, I think, currently up to 3.0, so...
I doubt I would play it with you or anyone without being assured it was fixed by now.
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2009, 01:46:09 AM
Hm. Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Empire of the Sun, Clash of Giants II, Grand Illusion, perhaps even Successors 3... :mmm: A massive package will be inbound? :shifty:
CoG II is the only game on that list worth buying.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 09, 2009, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2009, 01:46:09 AM
Hm. Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Empire of the Sun, Clash of Giants II, Grand Illusion, perhaps even Successors 3... :mmm: A massive package will be inbound? :shifty:
CoG II is the only game on that list worth buying.
Hm I need to consider the odd chance of playing with boardgame-liking non-wargamers... something which I might have more of in the near future. Conquest of Paradise and Successors 3 look like good choices for that. :unsure:
I was seriously unimpressed by Conquest of Paradise. Only played it once though, felt dry and flavorless.
Fine I am not buying either of them :P
Anyone tried Unhappy King Charles?
Quote from: Kleves on June 09, 2009, 03:48:54 PM
Anyone tried Unhappy King Charles?
We sorta abandoned a game with Habs (because of me :Embarrass: ) Kinda meh.
Why "meh"?
Quote from: Kleves on June 09, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
Why "meh"?
Because it is a good simulation of the conflict and ergo kinda boring :P
Today I was like: screw you guys, I am buying Empire of the Sun, Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Clash of Giants II, hell, even the deluxe map for B2B. End of it: $128. then checked shipping cost: $103 :bleeding:
WTF
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2009, 06:14:46 AM
Today I was like: screw you guys, I am buying Empire of the Sun, Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Clash of Giants II, hell, even the deluxe map for B2B. End of it: $128. then checked shipping cost: $103 :bleeding:
WTF
:lol:
I warned ye the shipping was obscene.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 10, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2009, 06:14:46 AM
Today I was like: screw you guys, I am buying Empire of the Sun, Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Clash of Giants II, hell, even the deluxe map for B2B. End of it: $128. then checked shipping cost: $103 :bleeding:
WTF
:lol:
I warned ye the shipping was obscene.
Yes but now I am in wargame shopping mode, drooling for some new boardgame I will never ever play. :(
Whats a good shop to shop at?
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2009, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 10, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2009, 06:14:46 AM
Today I was like: screw you guys, I am buying Empire of the Sun, Blackbeard, Conquest of Paradise, Clash of Giants II, hell, even the deluxe map for B2B. End of it: $128. then checked shipping cost: $103 :bleeding:
WTF
:lol:
I warned ye the shipping was obscene.
Yes but now I am in wargame shopping mode, drooling for some new boardgame I will never ever play. :(
Whats a good shop to shop at?
www.bouldergames.com
www.bunkerhillgames.com
Both I've ordered from(Bunkerhill via their ebay auctions) and had no problems with.
Quote from: frunk on June 04, 2009, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 04, 2009, 02:19:32 AM
The Dutch game looks fun.
It's an odd game. It takes some of the mechanisms of Tresham's Civilization and complicates it. It's a couple of games before you even figure out what a reasonable plan of action is.
Playing as the burghers I immediately realised my victory conditions do not really overlap with anyone, so I cautiosly and silently (like an afterthought) expanded in the fishing towns, occasionaly conflicting for land. Nailed victory with the others (most of them also noobs) hardly noticing the danger until it was way too late. Much like England in HIS.
My currently planned humble $193 shopping list from Boulder. :blush:
AGAINST THE ODDS DELUXE #20: A FATAL ATTRACTION (LPS)
BRITANNIA (Fantasy Flight)
CONQUEST OF PARADISE (GMT)
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (Fantasy Flight)
FIELD COMMANDER: ALEXANDER (DVG)
FIELD COMMANDER: ROMMEL (DVG)
Jesus, that is some weak ass shit right there Tamas. What happened to Empire of the Sun?
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 08:59:16 AM
Jesus, that is some weak ass shit right there Tamas. What happened to Empire of the Sun?
Out of stock :P Plus I want to test it on CB first. :P
Britannia, Conq. of Paradise and Battlestar Galactica are games I actually have a chance to play face to face (as i mentioned it on old languish, I am also thinking about GMing a Languish session of BSG), the rest are solitaire games except for Fatal Attraction which is a game about Gallipoli so I simply must have it.
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
My currently planned humble $193 shopping list from Boulder. :blush:
AGAINST THE ODDS DELUXE #20: A FATAL ATTRACTION (LPS)
BRITANNIA (Fantasy Flight)
CONQUEST OF PARADISE (GMT)
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (Fantasy Flight)
FIELD COMMANDER: ALEXANDER (DVG)
FIELD COMMANDER: ROMMEL (DVG)
Plus, when I last ordered from Boulder Games, there was a ziplock baggie in the box with about 4 pieces of candy in it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 10, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
Plus, when I last ordered from Boulder Games, there was a ziplock baggie in the box with about 4 pieces of candy in it.
:lol: yes I have ordered from them a couple of times and every time there were these candies.
Space Alert. Gotta have it :D
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38453 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38453)
Well, that alexander game went out of stock by the time I arrived home, and checking some other stuff, comparing prices with Hungarian offerings, the following order has been made to Boulder:
SPACE ALERT (Rio Grande)
BRITANNIA (Fantasy Flight)
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (Fantasy Flight)
CONQUEST OF PARADISE (GMT)
BLACKBEARD: THE GOLDEN AGE OF PIRACY (2008 ed.) (GMT)
Shipping is almost as much as the games themselves, but I am still somewhat ahead than having these bought from Hungarian shops, not to mention that they don't even carry GMT titles.
Space Alert is pretty fun. Far too easy with 5 people who know what they are doing, try it with 3 or 4.
Let us know how Blackbeard plays, please.
Brittania is pretty fun.
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 10, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
Let us know how Blackbeard plays, please.
I have Blackbeard, never played it though. One of these days I have to play that, Pax Britannica, and Viceroys.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 11, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
Brittania is pretty fun.
As in the old game (AH did a version, but it was a remake of someone else's) of Britain from the Roman Invasion to 1066? I love that game. I have the AH version plus some newer one that is slightly different, and with much better graphics.
Quote from: Caliga on June 11, 2009, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 11, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
Brittania is pretty fun.
As in the old game (AH did a version, but it was a remake of someone else's) of Britain from the Roman Invasion to 1066? I love that game. I have the AH version plus some newer one that is slightly different, and with much better graphics.
I already have Hispania and Italia, love them. I figured I can make my friends play Italia, but I will sure as hell have an easier time with Britannia, hence the purchase.
I recently got rid of Blackbeard, played it once, not as fun as 20 years ago, nostalgia lasted five minutes.
Much the same can be said of Britannia. I'd much rather play the old version. Still holding on to my copy of FF's, and played it a few times, but it takes too much time for my regular friends and is much too simple for my gamer friends.
In general, I am more particular about which beer 'n pretzel games I buy these days.
Quote from: Caliga on June 11, 2009, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 11, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
Brittania is pretty fun.
As in the old game (AH did a version, but it was a remake of someone else's) of Britain from the Roman Invasion to 1066? I love that game. I have the AH version plus some newer one that is slightly different, and with much better graphics.
yeah. FFG has the rights now.
a PC version of HOTW (the same system) is available via abandonware btw: http://www.cdosabandonware.com/std_games_details.php?gameid=635
So...I've been sitting here a while today, debating...mouse prompt on the trigger...drop a few hundred dollars on Decision Games' War In The Pacific.
Cons: I'll probably never play it. 30% of the globe It's bigger than my living room and dining room, combined. 9,000+ counters. The Pacific theater on company level, for fuck's sake.
Pros: I really, really want it. Oh God, do I want it.
Result: Push.
Somebody stop me, or talk me into it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2009, 07:45:30 PM
Somebody stop me, or talk me into it.
Is this the update of the SPI game? Mile high stacks of counters in China? Lucky to every even get through one turn?
Jesus, there are some memories there...
Don't do it CdM. You will spend countless annoying hours of punching the counters out, then you will reorganize your entire living space in order to accomodate the maps, then you will spend half a day setting the game up. Then when you will be ready to start, you will realize you lack time, space, and energy to play it, and pack it all up and never take an other look at it.
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2009, 04:01:18 AM
You will spend countless annoying hours of punching the counters out, then you will reorganize your entire living space in order to accomodate the maps, then you will spend half a day setting the game up. Then when you will be ready to start,
That's not the CdM way.
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2009, 04:01:18 AM
Don't do it CdM. You will spend countless annoying hours of punching the counters out, then you will reorganize your entire living space in order to accomodate the maps, then you will spend half a day setting the game up. Then when you will be ready to start, you will realize you lack time, space, and energy to play it, and pack it all up and never take an other look at it.
:lol: I usually don't get that far.
Thanks for stopping me, people. <_<
Order shipped.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
Thanks for stopping me, people. <_<
Order shipped.
Would you really have listened to anything we said?
Hell you'd probably decide to do the opposite of whatever I said.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2009, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
Thanks for stopping me, people. <_<
Order shipped.
Would you really have listened to anything we said?
Hell you'd probably decide to do the opposite of whatever I said.
I can't lie. WE HAS TO HAVE IT.
Bought the expansion kit, too. :Embarrass:
The problem with such a game is that you know, by mere virtue of its size, that it has never been playtested more than once or twice--and both times by the designer, rather than someone objectively judging it for game quirks. I can't buy a game where there is not even a pretense of quality-control involved.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
The problem with such a game is that you know, by mere virtue of its size, that it has never been playtested more than once or twice--and both times by the designer, rather than someone objectively judging it for game quirks. I can't buy a game where there is not even a pretense of quality-control involved.
Some of the chinks in the armor have been exposed on CSW. But, in the end, I just needed it.
Now, thinking about it, my head hurts just thinking about all the ASL stuff I could've bought instead.
And how that stuff is actually playable PBEM/Vassal. ;)
Don't worry, though. Judging by all the other monster games that I own and have never played ( DAK 2, Case Blue, etc.) the resale value is going to be pretty good. Hell, I bought both DAK 2 and CB on a lark and they're already profitable, if I were to sell them.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
And how that stuff is actually playable PBEM/Vassal. ;)
Those things never concern him
lol :nerd:
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:23:20 PM
Don't worry, though. Judging by all the other monster games that I own and have never played ( DAK 2, Case Blue, etc. the resale value is going to be pretty good. Hell, I bought both DAK 2 and CB on a lark and they're already profitable, if I were to sell them.
Yeah, this was the last of the "Must Haves" on my list that I went crazy with the last year.
Now, I'm pretty much sated until "Where Eagles Dare" comes out.
The only thing to do now is 1) keep up with the OCS releases that interest me as they come along, and 2) jump into ASL, which I never did.
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
And how that stuff is actually playable PBEM/Vassal. ;)
Those things never concern him
Shush yo mouf.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 05:30:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
And how that stuff is actually playable PBEM/Vassal. ;)
Those things never concern him
Shush yo mouf.
My gringo map is sitting under inches of dust waiting for our game to start!
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2009, 05:33:35 PM
My gringo map is sitting under inches of dust waiting for our game to start!
will you play with me
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 05:30:36 PM
The only thing to do now is 1) keep up with the OCS releases that interest me as they come along, and 2) jump into ASL, which I never did.
Go to WBC with Berkut and me and he'll learn you on the latter.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 05:30:36 PM
The only thing to do now is 1) keep up with the OCS releases that interest me as they come along, and 2) jump into ASL, which I never did.
Go to WBC with Berkut and me and he'll learn you on the latter.
Berkut told me he was ASL-ed out.
Then you can play the starter-kits with me, since I have never done much with them. :P
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:45:11 PM
Then you can play the starter-kits with me, since I have never done much with them. :P
That reminds me, I need #3.
I would play ASL with someone who wanted to learn.
Woohoo, the Big Brown Truck is on its way!
Quote
Location Date Local Time Description
BALTIMORE US 06/23/2009 06:24 IN TRANSIT TO
LEXINGTON US 06/23/2009 06:23 DEPARTURE SCAN
I like to receive lots of colorful boxes in the mail, even if they costed a fortune. ^_^
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
I can't lie. WE HAS TO HAVE IT.
Bought the expansion kit, too. :Embarrass:
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Did I still have the boardgame itch, I would have gotten it as well.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2009, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
Thanks for stopping me, people. <_<
Order shipped.
Would you really have listened to anything we said?
Hell you'd probably decide to do the opposite of whatever I said.
I can't lie. WE HAS TO HAVE IT.
Bought the expansion kit, too. :Embarrass:
The original covered the entire Pacific theater and had 9,000 counters, what was in the expansion kit?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 11:49:50 AM
The original covered the entire Pacific theater and had 9,000 counters, what was in the expansion kit?
The war in Europe on the same scale.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 11:49:50 AMThe original covered the entire Pacific theater and had 9,000 counters, what was in the expansion kit?
Little tiny Japanese people. They're flammable, you know.
Seriously, extra counters, etc., carrying the war into 1946 if necessary.
Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2009, 09:49:57 AM
I like to receive lots of colorful boxes in the mail, even if they costed a fortune. ^_^
Bastards at UPS called me; it's going to require a signature. They won't leave it unattended at the door.
Then again, at that price, I suppose I should applaud them for being proactive.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2009, 09:49:57 AM
I like to receive lots of colorful boxes in the mail, even if they costed a fortune. ^_^
Bastards at UPS called me; it's going to require a signature. They won't leave it unattended at the door.
Then again, at that price, I suppose I should applaud them for being proactive.
:nelson:
Quote from: katmai on June 23, 2009, 06:50:23 PM:nelson:
That's OK, I know where they hang out. And they're open late.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 06:53:39 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 23, 2009, 06:50:23 PM:nelson:
That's OK, I know where they hang out. And they're open late.
I luck out that Brown doesn't deliver till after 6:30 in my neighborhood.
Woohoo!
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Quote from: katmai on June 23, 2009, 06:50:23 PM
:nelson:
Maybe you could fix the smiley codes to include the second colon at some point?
Quote from: Habbaku on June 23, 2009, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 23, 2009, 06:50:23 PM
:nelson:
Maybe you could fix the smiley codes to include the second colon at some point?
Careful. He'll raise your warning level.
Got it at the UPS depot tonight. Weighed in at 12 lbs.
"My God...it's full of counters..."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 11:49:50 AMThe original covered the entire Pacific theater and had 9,000 counters, what was in the expansion kit?
Seriously, extra counters, etc., carrying the war into 1946 if necessary.
I wouldn't worry about that, the Japs 'll make you throw in the towel way before that. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
Got it at the UPS depot tonight. Weighed in at 12 lbs.
"My God...it's full of counters..."
pics please
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:lol: What a great site.
I wish goddamned Avalanche would send my War Plan Red.
So, I've been playing a couple of games of Imperial (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24181) lately.
Anyone else try it? We're having a blast playing it.
Quote from: bogh on June 25, 2009, 08:56:32 AM
So, I've been playing a couple of games of Imperial (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24181) lately.
Anyone else try it? We're having a blast playing it.
Yep. That's one of our default "to play at the conventions" games. Best Diplomacy mod ever!
Yeah, Imperial is a lot of fun.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
The problem with such a game is that you know, by mere virtue of its size, that it has never been playtested more than once or twice--and both times by the designer, rather than someone objectively judging it for game quirks. I can't buy a game where there is not even a pretense of quality-control involved.
After further review, and nearly killing the cat with the whole damned thing, I've come to the conclusion that this is perhaps the most unplayable game ever invented.
Not by rules, mind you; just in logistics alone.
Quote from: katmai on June 24, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
Got it at the UPS depot tonight. Weighed in at 12 lbs.
"My God...it's full of counters..."
pics please
Cat added for scale.
Nice Barney blanket there Seedy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2009, 09:49:57 AM
I like to receive lots of colorful boxes in the mail, even if they costed a fortune. ^_^
Bastards at UPS called me; it's going to require a signature. They won't leave it unattended at the door.
Then again, at that price, I suppose I should applaud them for being proactive.
I wish they always required a signature. I've had stuff left out in the rain by the idiots. And aa ordered a cuckoo clock a while back; when they delivered it, they knocked once, then left it on the front steps where I knocked the package over when I opened the door. Dumbasses.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 25, 2009, 08:48:48 AM
I wish goddamned Avalanche would send my War Plan Red.
*grumble*
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2009, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 25, 2009, 08:48:48 AM
I wish goddamned Avalanche would send my War Plan Red.
*grumble*
lol, you could've rolled all those dice by now.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2009, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
The problem with such a game is that you know, by mere virtue of its size, that it has never been playtested more than once or twice--and both times by the designer, rather than someone objectively judging it for game quirks. I can't buy a game where there is not even a pretense of quality-control involved.
After further review, and nearly killing the cat with the whole damned thing, I've come to the conclusion that this is perhaps the most unplayable game ever invented.
Not by rules, mind you; just in logistics alone.
You merely have to put as much time and effort as Admirals Leahy and King put into.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2009, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
The problem with such a game is that you know, by mere virtue of its size, that it has never been playtested more than once or twice--and both times by the designer, rather than someone objectively judging it for game quirks. I can't buy a game where there is not even a pretense of quality-control involved.
After further review, and nearly killing the cat with the whole damned thing, I've come to the conclusion that this is perhaps the most unplayable game ever invented.
Not by rules, mind you; just in logistics alone.
You merely have to put as much time and effort as Admirals Leahy and King put into.
you'd need a turn timer clock so as to better mirror the RL decision cycles.
We played 3 years of War in Europe in 9 months of weekend playing...then everyone but Mike discovered girls and the war ended.
Quote from: PDH on July 03, 2009, 12:13:15 PM
We played 3 years of War in Europe in 9 months of weekend playing...then everyone but Mike discovered girls and the war ended.
We did three years of Drang Nach Osten/Unentshieden back in college, but the fucking Germans quit when they realized they were going to be defending for the rest of the war. :mad:
It was: total madness.
Quote from: grumbler on July 03, 2009, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: PDH on July 03, 2009, 12:13:15 PM
We played 3 years of War in Europe in 9 months of weekend playing...then everyone but Mike discovered girls and the war ended.
We did three years of Drang Nach Osten/Unentshieden back in college, but the fucking Germans quit when they realized they were going to be defending for the rest of the war. :mad:
It was: total madness.
:lol: Wargamers playing krauts can be a hoot.
You mean I can't has blitzkrieg in 1944?
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 03, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
:lol: Wargamers playing krauts can be a hoot.
You mean I can't has blitzkrieg in 1944?
If you can even find one anymore.
Today's German gamer probably wouldn't use anything greater than 2-1 on the CRT, because that wouldn't be fair.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 03, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
If you can even find one anymore.
Today's German gamer probably wouldn't use anything greater than 2-1 on the CRT, because that wouldn't be fair.
Back in the day, we had to adopt rules to stop the counter-sifters from spending hours just looking at opposing and own stacks to get that magical 5-1 +2 over-run.
They drove me fucking berserk. You could fuck their wives whilest they just calculated their 22 June '41 moves, and they would not even be surprised to get home and find out they had a five-year-old daughter they didn't remember seeing before.
Quote from: grumbler on July 03, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
You could fuck their wives whilest they just calculated their 22 June '41 moves, and they would not even be surprised to get home and find out they had a five-year-old daughter they didn't remember seeing before.
:lol:
LOLZ Tochter aus Elysium pwn3d.
Quote from: grumbler on July 03, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 03, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
If you can even find one anymore.
Today's German gamer probably wouldn't use anything greater than 2-1 on the CRT, because that wouldn't be fair.
Back in the day, we had to adopt rules to stop the counter-sifters from spending hours just looking at opposing and own stacks to get that magical 5-1 +2 over-run.
They drove me fucking berserk. You could fuck their wives whilest they just calculated their 22 June '41 moves, and they would not even be surprised to get home and find out they had a five-year-old daughter they didn't remember seeing before.
:lmfao:
One of the touches I love about OCS/SCS - you are not allowed to examine stacks before deciding attacks. Not even your own.
I read in Cosmo that if a man gets what he wants all the time you risk losing the spark.
Watch for the grumbling to pick up again when MB realizes he bought a game from AVP.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 11, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
Watch for the grumbling to pick up again when MB realizes he bought a game from AVP.
Have no problems with their games. Sure the rules look like they are organized by a blind leper, but what wargame rules don't look like that?
Plus, I can get my wife to roll all the dice and play the games.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 12:20:44 PMGrumbling canceled.
June 25th to July 10th? Where'd you order it from? Overseas?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2009, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 12:20:44 PMGrumbling canceled.
June 25th to July 10th? Where'd you order it from? Overseas?
AVP is notorious on CSW right now for failing at basic functions of being a business. Namely, giving customers an item in exchange for the money paid.
Some people have started making bets as to whether it'll survive to see 2010.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 11, 2009, 02:01:36 PM
AVP is notorious on CSW right now for failing at basic functions of being a business. Namely, giving customers an item in exchange for the money paid.
Some people have started making bets as to whether it'll survive to see 2010.
Well, with the titles they pour out every year, they seem to be doing fine. Then again, I haven't bought one of their games in years.
I don't know why Mr. Perfect Life needs to order from AP anyway, they've peppered the landscape with their games. Other than GMT, they're really the only titles you'll find in hobby stores.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2009, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 12:20:44 PMGrumbling canceled.
June 25th to July 10th? Where'd you order it from? Overseas?
Home. Slow, but it did ship media mail.
Hilariously, packages sent home from Ireland was arriving within 7 days.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Hilariously, packages sent home from Ireland was arriving withing 7 days.
What the fuck would anyone want from Ireland?
Quote from: The Brain on July 11, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Hilariously, packages sent home from Ireland was arriving withing 7 days.
What the fuck would anyone want from Ireland?
I was shipping home a leprechaun in 10 parts.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 11, 2009, 02:01:36 PM
AVP is notorious on CSW right now for failing at basic functions of being a business. Namely, giving customers an item in exchange for the money paid.
Some people have started making bets as to whether it'll survive to see 2010.
Well, with the titles they pour out every year, they seem to be doing fine. Then again, I haven't bought one of their games in years.
I don't know why Mr. Perfect Life needs to order from AP anyway, they've peppered the landscape with their games. Other than GMT, they're really the only titles you'll find in hobby stores.
Sadly, the Dayton area's hobby stores are gone or totally shit. If I want Fagmaster 40k, I can get that but anything with a board better be Risk or it isn't around.
And a second copy of War Plan:Red plops into my mailbox. Har har.
Another GMT sale:
https://www.gmtgames.com/news.aspx?showarticle=134
Two weeks until WBC.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 17, 2009, 10:20:29 PM
Two weeks until WBC.
Historicon is today.
Driving up to Lancaster, gonna see what grumbler is up to.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 17, 2009, 10:20:29 PM
Two weeks until WBC.
:lol: By the way, I love the team logo.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 07:26:47 AM
Driving up to Lancaster, gonna see what grumbler is up to.
Say hello.
Are you buying or, you know, playing now? :huh:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 08:29:02 AM
:lol: By the way, I love the team logo.
:D Team name was my idea, but the logo is all Burdett's work.
Quote from: Norgy on July 18, 2009, 12:31:03 PM
Say hello.
Are you buying or, you know, playing now? :huh:
Saw grumbler, doing well as ever; unfortunately, a sudden issue with his People's Car sullied his expo experience a bit.
Spent a pissload of money today. Man, if I had a wife, she'd be pissed, and would bludgeon me with the book I bought from grumbler.
Bought Atlantic Navies (http://www.clashofarms.com/AtlanticNavies.html), since they're retooling the Command at Sea rules to adhere to the Admiralty Trilogy better.
Ordered a copy of Tanker War (http://www.casematepublishing.com/cgi/titleinfo.pl?sku=9781932033847), which will be a fantastic resource for my ongoing work on US foreign policy in the Gulf since the Carter Doctrine.
Just for shits and giggles, I bought a miniatures rules system based loosely on Egyptian mythology, WarGods (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13667), mainly because I'm a closeted Egyptologist, and the salesgirl was a cute Brit brunette.
But the haul of the day was picking up The Hell of Stalingrad (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/42560), after playing a few demo rounds with the designer, Steve Cunliffe--who I promptly smoked, 2-0.
Man, what a great fucking game. At first I thought it would be a chromed up version of
Up Front! from back in the day, but I was wrong. It's so much better. Fluid, fast, assymetrical and side-specific game mechanics, gorgeous production value...a total and complete blast to play. I was hooked. My buddy Joey and I played a few rounds when we got back, had tons of laughs. I mean, the Soviet player can actually improve his side's value during the round by executing his own troops. How fucking cool is that?
I highly recommend this game. Totally and completely playable.
The first game in the War Is Hell card game series, Steve showed me prototype components of the next one they're already playtesting,
Midway. Even showed me the F2A Buffalo card. Awesome.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 18, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 08:29:02 AM
:lol: By the way, I love the team logo.
:D Team name was my idea, but the logo is all Burdett's work.
I'll probably be stopping by up there sometime to check out the dealers, maybe the auction. Maybe we can score dinner one night.
Did you pick up any solitaire games? :)
Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
Did you pick up any solitaire games? :)
They're all solitaire games here at the bunker.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 11:22:11 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
Did you pick up any solitaire games? :)
They're all solitaire games here at the bunker.
Allow me to rephrase: did you get any games that were designed for solitaire play?
Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2009, 11:43:58 PM
Allow me to rephrase: did you get any games that were designed for solitaire play?
Nope.
Seedy really needs a visit from me PeeDee and me.
We'll bring anti-tank mines and Molotovs.
Seedy, you know how sad it is to buy boardgames you'll never play?
That's as if I was buying books, computer games or DVDs and never used them.
Oh, wait.
:blush:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 18, 2009, 12:31:03 PM
Say hello.
Are you buying or, you know, playing now? :huh:
Just for shits and giggles, I bought a miniatures rules system based loosely on Egyptian mythology, WarGods (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13667), mainly because I'm a closeted Egyptologist, and the salesgirl was a cute Brit brunette.
I got that recently on a whim. Have just started reading it (I read the rules I buy). Good value I think.
Quote from: The Brain on July 19, 2009, 06:16:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 18, 2009, 12:31:03 PM
Say hello.
Are you buying or, you know, playing now? :huh:
Just for shits and giggles, I bought a miniatures rules system based loosely on Egyptian mythology, WarGods (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13667), mainly because I'm a closeted Egyptologist, and the salesgirl was a cute Brit brunette.
I got that recently on a whim. Have just started reading it (I read the rules I buy). Good value I think.
Yeah, I thought it was quite an interesting subject, and as far as minis rules go, it looks very digestible.
Of course, I'm all about the Basti, baby.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2009, 06:24:00 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 19, 2009, 06:16:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 18, 2009, 12:31:03 PM
Say hello.
Are you buying or, you know, playing now? :huh:
Just for shits and giggles, I bought a miniatures rules system based loosely on Egyptian mythology, WarGods (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13667), mainly because I'm a closeted Egyptologist, and the salesgirl was a cute Brit brunette.
I got that recently on a whim. Have just started reading it (I read the rules I buy). Good value I think.
Yeah, I thought it was quite an interesting subject, and as far as minis rules go, it looks very digestible.
Of course, I'm all about the Basti, baby.
I'm more of an Anubi person myself.
Been reading more of Wargods. It is very well written and the many illustrations are great.
Quote from: The Brain on July 21, 2009, 05:25:55 PMBeen reading more of Wargods. It is very well written and the many illustrations are great.
Yeah, I've been very impressed as well. Hell of a deal for $30-something.
It's got some interesting mechanics as well; I particularly like the concept of how your Harbinger can generate more Ka Points killing another Harbinger.
Some very interesting combat units as well. I like the Embalmers.
:yes:
Maybe we can not play it together some time.
Play? A game? Are you kidding?
http://www.worthingtongames.com/CaesarsGallicWar.html
Daddy want.
Hey EdButt; Avalanche Press just did a total overaul of all their destroyer counters. For every game.
GWAS: DESTROYERS
New from Avalanche Press. A special download of 420 destroyers covering all the games in the Great War at Sea series. The small, multiple ship counters have now been expanded to full size with glorious top-down views. And it's FREE with any purchase of a naval game or two supplements. Already have them all? Write us, we'll make a deal.
http://www.consimworld.com/archives/002260.html
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Hey EdButt; Avalanche Press just did a total overaul of all their destroyer counters. For every game.
GWAS: DESTROYERS
New from Avalanche Press. A special download of 420 destroyers covering all the games in the Great War at Sea series. The small, multiple ship counters have now been expanded to full size with glorious top-down views. And it's FREE with any purchase of a naval game or two supplements. Already have them all? Write us, we'll make a deal.
http://www.consimworld.com/archives/002260.html
Considering my art skills, I'd slit my wrist with safety scissors mounting counters.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Hey EdButt; Avalanche Press just did a total overaul of all their destroyer counters. For every game.
GWAS: DESTROYERS
New from Avalanche Press. A special download of 420 destroyers covering all the games in the Great War at Sea series. The small, multiple ship counters have now been expanded to full size with glorious top-down views. And it's FREE with any purchase of a naval game or two supplements. Already have them all? Write us, we'll make a deal.
http://www.consimworld.com/archives/002260.html
Considering my art skills, I'd slit my wrist with safety scissors mounting counters.
:x
The Kaiser's Pirates is a fun card game about WW1 commerce raiding that can be fun for non-wargamers as well.
Which is part of the reason I like it, actually. Tell me a more obscure theme you can have non-grognards sit down and enjoy.
Shit. I've got about 250 spare and I want some boardgames I likely never play. Like SPQR. :(
Now I've got that shopping headache when I can't decide of what to get.
Give me an era/battle and I'll be happy to make some recommendations (though I can't promise that some won't be CDGs).
Quote from: Habbaku on July 26, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
Give me an era/battle and I'll be happy to make some recommendations (though I can't promise that some won't be CDGs).
Ancients. Medieval.
Problem is, my mind is bouncing around right now and I'm hitting that indecision loop.
I spazzed out and ordered SPQR and War Galley. :blush:
Command and Colors : Ancients has a hojillion expansions and is easily playable with the missus, if you're up for playing a block game. The second expansion has some of Sertorius' men to kick around in it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 26, 2009, 06:16:34 PM
I spazzed out and ordered SPQR
I suggest printing out the living rules, then.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 26, 2009, 06:18:10 PM
Command and Colors : Ancients has a hojillion expansions and is easily playable with the missus, if you're up for playing a block game. The second expansion has some of Sertorius' men to kick around in it.
The core game itself is OOP, but there's still tons of merchants that have it in stock from what I've seen.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 04:26:18 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 26, 2009, 06:18:10 PM
Command and Colors : Ancients has a hojillion expansions and is easily playable with the missus, if you're up for playing a block game. The second expansion has some of Sertorius' men to kick around in it.
The core game itself is OOP, but there's still tons of merchants that have it in stock from what I've seen.
GMT had some white box versions in stock as of last week.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 27, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
MT had some white box versions in stock as of last week.
Bet your buddy Dr. Gates wouldn't buy one.
Gallic war repeatedly refers to itself as a game between the Roman player and the..German
Such a heinous offense, I decided against trying it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 27, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
MT had some white box versions in stock as of last week.
Bet your buddy Dr. Gates wouldn't buy one.
Course not. Ancients aren't his thing. He only plays postmodern.
Actually there are a number of professors at Harvard and MIT who are consimmers. B)
was leary consimmer
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 26, 2009, 06:16:34 PM
I spazzed out and ordered SPQR and War Galley. :blush:
I got a package. Time to rub the numbers off the Scipio counter during our alone time.
Got Rome at War: Queen of the Celts for 75% off retail. I will rape the Boudicca counter.
Command and Colours (sic) is a good game :thumbsup:
My gaming partner just received APTO and AOI to go with AETO. We're planning a combined/conjoined game starting in -35 in Abbesinia, moving on to -36 in Spain, -37 in China then -39 for the whole shebang. See you in four years time.
http://www.decisiongames.com/html/adv_pacific_theater.html (http://www.decisiongames.com/html/adv_pacific_theater.html)
Quote from: Delirium on August 14, 2009, 11:22:35 AM
My gaming partner just received APTO and AOI to go with AETO. We're planning a combined/conjoined game starting in -35 in Abbesinia, moving on to -36 in Spain, -37 in China then -39 for the whole shebang. See you in four years time.
http://www.decisiongames.com/html/adv_pacific_theater.html (http://www.decisiongames.com/html/adv_pacific_theater.html)
How's the APTO production value? Is it pretty?
It is, mostly because AETO looked like crap.
The rule books have improved dramatically (although they're still remarkably chaotic in content at least now they don't make you nauseous when you read them). Map is nice and counter art is slightly improved. The charts now look professional and there's a nice summary of air unit capacity and status. The OOB cards are still a nightmare.
Overall I'd say this is a game that is worth buying but if you never had to experience AETO you wouldn't rate it as high as I do.
Quote from: Delirium on August 15, 2009, 03:17:09 AMOverall I'd say this is a game that is worth buying but if you never had to experience AETO you wouldn't rate it as high as I do.
Never been impressed with Decision Games' production value, except recently. War In The Pacific and Wacht Am Rhein notable exceptions.
I bought A Touch Of Evil. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35815
I am not sure why they bother with an original music CD (just like in Last Night On Earth), but the game itself should be cool.
Of these games, which two should I get:
The Hell of Stalingrad
Unhappy King Charles
Pursuit of Glory
THoS and Pursuit.
How difficult (rules-wise) are THoS and PoG? Is UKC easier than either?
UKC is the middle of the three, Pursuit being the most difficult by far.
THoS is pretty easy to grasp, but Pursuit is definitely a chrome-filled behemoth for anyone not used to CDG mechanics or wargames.
Hmm. Is Pursuit comparable to Paths of Glory in its complexity? What don't you like about UKC?
Quote from: Kleves on August 15, 2009, 05:02:25 PM
Of these games, which two should I get:
The Hell of Stalingrad
Unhappy King Charles
Pursuit of Glory
Can't speak for the other two, but The Hell of Stalingrad is a fucking hoot. Fast, bloody, easy to grasp, and nothing makes me giggle more than playing the "Collecting Tongues" card.
:huh: Collecting Tongues assumes command?
Quote from: The Brain on August 15, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
:huh: Collecting Tongues assumes command?
I think he is recommending buying some books at militaryhistorypress.com (http://militaryhistorypress.com) :mellow:
I can't find THoS cheap enough for my taste, so I'll go with PoG for now. Thanks for the input, guys. :thumbsup:
Quote from: grumbler on August 16, 2009, 12:06:23 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 15, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
:huh: Collecting Tongues assumes command?
I think he is recommending buying some books at militaryhistorypress.com (http://militaryhistorypress.com) :mellow:
I am not a discriminating reader. :(
I've played A Touch of Evil a few times. Looks much better on the inside than what is given away by the hideous box and is a pretty fun game, although we feel it is a bit over-produced, a lot of different card decks that are only used a few times per game and game play itself is a bit repetitive. I recommend staying away from co-op play, unless you consort with casual gamers only.
Quote from: Kleves on August 16, 2009, 01:15:35 AM
I can't find THoS cheap enough for my taste, so I'll go with PoG for now. Thanks for the input, guys. :thumbsup:
BoulderGames was selling it for less than $45. :huh:
Quote from: grumbler on August 16, 2009, 12:06:23 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 15, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
:huh: Collecting Tongues assumes command?
I think he is recommending buying some books at militaryhistorypress.com (http://militaryhistorypress.com) :mellow:
"Books as pretty as the times they portray. Don't let children touch them."
Just ordered the updated countersheet 11 for A World At War, and the expansion set for Gringo!.
Fahdiz did not.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2009, 06:33:46 AM
BoulderGames was selling it for less than $45. :huh:
That's where I was going to buy it, but they're out of stock.
Quote from: Kleves on August 15, 2009, 07:10:30 PM
Hmm. Is Pursuit comparable to Paths of Glory in its complexity? What don't you like about UKC?
No, not at all. It has a few new concepts added entirely (national collapse, Jihad, naval invasions) and lots of exceptions loaded into the game, along with varying troop strengths, which PoG only dabbled in.
UKC is a fun game, but if I had the opportunity to play one of the other two I would do so. It's a bit too "non-wargamey" for me, but I still like it.
I am still waiting for Caliga to start a VASSAL game of PuG :(
Which is I think is my favourite game in my collection.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Just ordered the updated countersheet 11 for A World At War, and the expansion set for Gringo!.
Fahdiz did not.
Tuesday night, and it's still not shipped. :mad: GMT Games drops a notch. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 18, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
Tuesday night, and it's still not shipped. :mad: GMT Games drops a notch. :mad:
GMT never updates their shit on the shipping status side of things. You'll get it in a couple of days and then it'll update to "in the mail."
I get shipping updates from them about stuff I received three days prior all the time.
Hey, Habby: you're a CDG cardshark, you see this news?
QuoteNew England Simulations is pleased to announce that it has agreed to publish John Firer's game of the unification of Germany and Italy, Age of Bismarck.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.consimpress.com%2Fageofbismarck%2FAoB_title.jpg&hash=4d309c8085fb0d34fcb4c3f764dbd0d6e8e41cd5)
The map:
http://talk.consimworld.com/
[email protected]@.1dcdf52f!enclosure=.1dd06d47
If NES's other productions are anything to go by, it should be a lights out product.
Yeah, I've been keeping my eyes on that one for a while. I actually pre-ordered several months ago based on the playtest map.
As excited/interested I am in it, I'm wary about the designer (John Firer). The guy is definitely hit and miss, but when paired with a good developer he can do a good job. Neil Randall, for example, would let him get away with too much.
That the posts about it from the NES guys indicated that they'd "make any changes pre-publication that they considered necessary" encourages me quite a bit more, though.
Quote from: Habbaku on August 19, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
That the posts about it from the NES guys indicated that they'd "make any changes pre-publication that they considered necessary" encourages me quite a bit more, though.
Yes, they've managed to maintain quality work. Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't published more.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 18, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Just ordered the updated countersheet 11 for A World At War, and the expansion set for Gringo!.
Fahdiz did not.
Tuesday night, and it's still not shipped. :mad: GMT Games drops a notch. :mad:
The Big Brown Truck better show on Saturday, dammit. :mad:
Broke down and bought some Federation Commander shit. Klingon Border, Romulan Border, Klingon Attack and Romulan Attack expansions.
Star Fleet Battles, how I've missed you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 21, 2009, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 18, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Just ordered the updated countersheet 11 for A World At War, and the expansion set for Gringo!.
Fahdiz did not.
Tuesday night, and it's still not shipped. :mad: GMT Games drops a notch. :mad:
The Big Brown Truck better show on Saturday, dammit. :mad:
Stupid GMT. :mad:
CERRITOS, CA, US 08/20/2009 4:31 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
Scheduled Delivery Date:
08/25/2009
Is Europe Engulfed/Asia Engulfed any good?
Yes/Yes.
Cool. If I'm gonna get an RL friend to play WW2 the game can't have 150 pages of rules.
I played AE for the first time at WBC - the rules seem very hard to grasp until you play a turn, then they click and you realize they are actually very easy.
I really want to play AE more - I think there is a very interesting dilemma there for the Japanese.
While browsing I happened to spot a block game covering the Great Northern War, newly released. Pax Baltica: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/42328
I have no idea if it is playable. I ordered it for completeness if nothing else.
Has anyone here played "Friedrich (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12891)"? I picked it up in a bargain bin for $15.00 recently.
Friedrich's one of my favorites. The rules are pretty easy, only a few exceptions, games take 2 1/2-5 hours each, but expect some lopsided victories the first few times you play. If you are looking for a wealth of historical detail in the battles you won't find it, combat is heavily abstracted. The map is a beautiful thing in and of itself. Playing as Friedrich is a stressful but rewarding experience, you are continually under pressure from every player.
Check and see if you have first or second edition, the major differences are that the second edition fixed a couple of errors on the map, uses better counters for marking control, and has both a German and English Deck of Fate.
Quote from: frunk on August 25, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Friedrich's one of my favorites. The rules are pretty easy, only a few exceptions, games take 2 1/2-5 hours each, but expect some lopsided victories the first few times you play. If you are looking for a wealth of historical detail in the battles you won't find it, combat is heavily abstracted. The map is a beautiful thing in and of itself. Playing as Friedrich is a stressful but rewarding experience, you are continually under pressure from every player.
Check and see if you have first or second edition, the major differences are that the second edition fixed a couple of errors on the map, uses better counters for marking control, and has both a German and English Deck of Fate.
Thanks, that's good to hear. I don't know what edition I have, i'll have to check later.
New game (due out in November) for Seedy to buy and never play. I think I'll be getting this. Battalion-level, team game for Normandy!
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-213-the-battle-for-normandy.aspx
Of course, a King Tiger on the sample counters...
Quote from: Habbaku on August 28, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
New game (due out in November) for Seedy to buy and never play. I think I'll be getting this. Battalion-level, team game for Normandy!
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-213-the-battle-for-normandy.aspx
Hmmm, veddy interestink. The map layout is practically the same one from
The Longest Day--
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.boardgamegeek.com%2Fimages%2Fpic445883_md.jpg&hash=c3d3c3e59c90e5035a379d91a6abdc67ccca1682)
--which, while an oldie but a goodie, suffers from age. And those goddamned German unit designations I could never get a handle on.
Did you ever get The Killing Ground and the Overlord expansion? FWIW, a top notch production by NES on the same scale.
It does have that map layout...I wonder if has those hidden little Ost-Battalion setup sites on the map that one can never find?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 28, 2009, 11:07:43 PM
Did you ever get The Killing Ground and the Overlord expansion? FWIW, a top notch production by NES on the same scale.
Nope. Certainly on the radar, though. I'm hoping to get a look at a copy up close (and maybe read the rules) before I buy.
Quote from: The Brain on August 15, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
I bought A Touch Of Evil. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35815
I am not sure why they bother with an original music CD (just like in Last Night On Earth), but the game itself should be cool.
Which of the two is better, IYHO?
Quote from: Scipio on August 30, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 15, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
I bought A Touch Of Evil. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35815
I am not sure why they bother with an original music CD (just like in Last Night On Earth), but the game itself should be cool.
Which of the two is better, IYHO?
I have only played Earth twice and Evil once, but I would say Earth. There is more player interaction in Earth (since the bad guys are player controlled) and Evil is a bit like a simplified version of Arkham Horror (not
necessarily a bad thing, but for instance the challenges encountered on the cards feel samey compared to the more varied cards in Arkham).
They are both fun games, though probably not with extreme replayability.
Just got Space Hulk. Heavy box. Great new game smell. Nice detailed figures, but obviously the Space Marines are packed with GW's patented OTT accessories. "I'm going into combat in space, of course I must look like a christmas tree"
Never played Space Hulk back in the day, haven't read the rules yet.
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 12:32:20 PM
Just got Space Hulk. Heavy box. Great new game smell. Nice detailed figures, but obviously the Space Marines are packed with GW's patented OTT accessories. "I'm going into combat in space, of course I must look like a christmas tree"
Never played Space Hulk back in the day, haven't read the rules yet.
are they pre-painted? are the rules solitaire-friendly?
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2009, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 12:32:20 PM
Just got Space Hulk. Heavy box. Great new game smell. Nice detailed figures, but obviously the Space Marines are packed with GW's patented OTT accessories. "I'm going into combat in space, of course I must look like a christmas tree"
Never played Space Hulk back in the day, haven't read the rules yet.
are they pre-painted? are the rules solitaire-friendly?
No. I know dick about the rules.
If it's a remake of the original Space Hulk (of which I played the C64 version called Space Crusade) then yes, it should be. The enemies are controlled by a set of rules and chances. Only the space marines are human controlled IIRC. So in single player you can go in with a single squad. Of course the game is much more fun when you have to compete for the objective. :menace:
Wasn't there a free version of this posted online somewhere, complete with decent graphics?
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 01:02:39 PM
If it's a remake of the original Space Hulk (of which I played the C64 version called Space Crusade) then yes, it should be. The enemies are controlled by a set of rules and chances. Only the space marines are human controlled IIRC. So in single player you can go in with a single squad. Of course the game is much more fun when you have to compete for the objective. :menace:
Wasn't Space Crusade slightly different from Space Hulk? Anyway, in Space Hulk one player plays the marines and one player plays the stealers.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 07, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
Wasn't there a free version of this posted online somewhere, complete with decent graphics?
Yes and IIRC GW finally closed them down. Maybe when the current Space Hulk project got the go-ahead.
I think I have it on my other computer.
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
Yes and IIRC GW finally closed them down. Maybe when the current Space Hulk project got the go-ahead.
I think I have it on my other computer.
:( I had fun with it for several days. If you find it, please let me know.
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 01:02:39 PM
If it's a remake of the original Space Hulk (of which I played the C64 version called Space Crusade) then yes, it should be. The enemies are controlled by a set of rules and chances. Only the space marines are human controlled IIRC. So in single player you can go in with a single squad. Of course the game is much more fun when you have to compete for the objective. :menace:
Wasn't Space Crusade slightly different from Space Hulk? Anyway, in Space Hulk one player plays the marines and one player plays the stealers.
There was later a real time version with 3D tile based movement (like Eye of the Beholder) IIRC for Amiga and PC. You had four little windows for the four marines.
This is the Space Crusade version, faithful to the board game:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/space-crusade
And this was Space Hulk:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/space-hulk
Yes but wasn't Space Crusade (the boardgame) slightly different from Space Hulk (the boardgame)?
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 01:49:08 PM
Yes but wasn't Space Crusade (the boardgame) slightly different from Space Hulk (the boardgame)?
No idea.
It was. :smarty:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1568
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2163
Here's something interesting on the horizon from CoA...
QuoteLegion of Honor - is an innovative card game that recreates the personal drama of the Napoleonic Wars.
Using a quick playing, card-driven game system, each player assumes the role of a French soldier - or grognard- starting out as a young sergeant or sous-lieutenant trying to make it in life starting in 1792. Fortunately for the enterprising grognard, he can look forward to over twenty years of continuous war provided courtesy of the Directory and Napoleon!
Against the historical backdrop of major historical events that span the period from the Brunswick Manifesto to The Hundred Days, grognards take advantage of the opportunities that Fate provides to advance their station in life. Or not!
Winning the game is achieved in a number of ways: having the highest award in the Legion of Honor, having the highest military rank or having the most glory or wealth.
The game is entirely suitable solitaire play through six players.
Components:
* 200 color playing cards;
* 140 cardboard counters;
* Exclusive rulebook with Rules Summary Sheet;
* 6 Grognard/Ledger sheets;
* 1 Campaign Sheet;
* 1 Opportunity Sheet;
* 1 History Sheet
* 1 Fate Sheet & Fair Sex Sheet.
Okay, that does seem pretty cool.
Bernadotte wins.
Oh, and good sex is never fair.
The Hell of Stalingrad is on its way. ^_^
I just cut out and assembled the Space Hulk terminators.
Pros: The sculpts are excellent with dynamic and individual poses and great detail, especially considering that they are 2-4 piece push-together-no-glue-necessary minis. A triumph of the technical side of miniature design.
Cons: You do need to be VERY careful when cutting them out since the little chains and skulls and whatnot are just dying to snap. I managed to avoid any accidents but I can certainly see stuff like the sergeants' prom queen thingies coming off during transport. They also accessorize like crazy, the most flaming fag would think twice before dressing up like they do (and the typical fag isn't even going into combat in dirty and cramped corridors). The models also have a lot of Blood Angels symbols on them so if you want to paint them up like other chapters you have some explaining to do.
Other: the plastic is a little bit softer than the GW standard I think (but still hard plastic, no problem painting them).
Gonna start on the Genestealers, they should be a little easier since they don't have the same amount of tiny shit all over them.
I assembled the genestealers and punched out the counters and corridors/rooms. Very thick cardboard with high quality print.
In addition to the terminators and genestealers there's 3 other models: a scouting bot thing, a holy artefact and my favorite a long dead terminator sitting on a throne. Pretty cool.
There are no compartments in the box for storing the stuff so everything just goes in a royal mess. They should have solved the storage better I think for this price and considering the somewhat fragile models.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
Here's something interesting on the horizon from CoA...
QuoteLegion of Honor - is an innovative card game that recreates the personal drama of the Napoleonic Wars.
Using a quick playing, card-driven game system, each player assumes the role of a French soldier - or grognard- starting out as a young sergeant or sous-lieutenant trying to make it in life starting in 1792. Fortunately for the enterprising grognard, he can look forward to over twenty years of continuous war provided courtesy of the Directory and Napoleon!
Against the historical backdrop of major historical events that span the period from the Brunswick Manifesto to The Hundred Days, grognards take advantage of the opportunities that Fate provides to advance their station in life. Or not!
Winning the game is achieved in a number of ways: having the highest award in the Legion of Honor, having the highest military rank or having the most glory or wealth.
The game is entirely suitable solitaire play through six players.
Components:
* 200 color playing cards;
* 140 cardboard counters;
* Exclusive rulebook with Rules Summary Sheet;
* 6 Grognard/Ledger sheets;
* 1 Campaign Sheet;
* 1 Opportunity Sheet;
* 1 History Sheet
* 1 Fate Sheet & Fair Sex Sheet.
That looks like great fun. :)
I just ordered 1805: Sea of Glory (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/23685) along with Endeavor (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33160) and the reprint of Ra (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12).
Quote from: PRC on September 20, 2009, 09:47:58 PM
I just ordered 1805: Sea of Glory (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/23685) along with Endeavor (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33160) and the reprint of Ra (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12).
I goofed around with Ra at my local game store not too long ago. Fun times.
Quote from: PRC on September 20, 2009, 09:47:58 PM
I just ordered 1805: Sea of Glory (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/23685)
Ah,
Sea of Mauve. Looks like fun, but I think I'll hold off until decent reviews come in, if they ever do. The map is damned ugly, though.
On my side of things, I've purchased a lot of solitaire stuff lately. Specifically two games by John Butterfield :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29603 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29603)
D-Day at Omaha Beach.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40209 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40209)
RAF : The Battle of Britain.
And a third that I'll probably get played at some point in the near future which is for four players : http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12891 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12891)
Friedrich.
Thus far, I think the D-Day game is a bit of a slog (yuk yuk) and am not sure if it's worth the effort. The RAF game, however, is proving to be pretty damned fun by itself. Add in the fact that it's actually 3 games in one (RAF : Eagle, RAF : Lion and a 2-player version that combines them both, albeit with different rules) and I think I definitely got a bargain on that one.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2009, 09:52:21 PM
I goofed around with Ra at my local game store not too long ago. Fun times.
Very tense little auction game, it's a very fun filler for sure.
I got Chaos in the Old World from FFG. Haven't read the rules or played it yet.
Lot of empty space in the box that could have been filled with more plastic figures. :mad:
Quote from: Habbaku on September 20, 2009, 10:55:03 PM
Ah, Sea of Mauve. Looks like fun, but I think I'll hold off until decent reviews come in, if they ever do. The map is damned ugly, though.
Having received it and played (soloed) it I can say it's very good, I like it a lot. But i'm a big fan of the period / naval theme and I think that really helps. For someone who isn't interested in the naval theme of that day, blockade, evasion, it might be a little dull.
MMP added a whole mess of stuff to their pre-order lists yesterday. Predictably, most of it looks like shit, but a few caught my eye :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/31790
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.boardgamegeek.com%2Fimages%2Fpic437142_lg.jpg&hash=f6ed7bd5a030d908a26f8bc2f32215d0d4c5b494)
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/42783
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Quote from: Habbaku on October 07, 2009, 09:31:43 PM
MMP added a whole mess of stuff to their pre-order lists yesterday. Predictably, most of it looks like shit, but a few caught my eye :
I really, really, really want
Angola.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2009, 10:02:09 PM
I really, really, really want Angola.
You and me, both. Too bad the developer's a fuckhead.
Quote from: Habbaku on October 07, 2009, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2009, 10:02:09 PM
I really, really, really want Angola.
You and me, both. Too bad the developer's a fuckhead.
:lol:
Well, I chalk him up to being artistic and snarky. But he's not as bad as the Berg Collective.
I am doing my part by boycotting any further Berg games.
I've been laying off buying any new games, anticipating the year end Christmas sales.
I'm gonna rape my credit card.
The Here I Stand sequel, Virgin Queen, is now in beta testing. Forum here: http://talk.consimworld.com/
[email protected]@.1dd437e5
Played hellgame. It's a good alternative to diplomacy for college kids, I think. At least, they'll play this, but not diplomacy.
Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2009, 09:15:21 AM
The Here I Stand sequel, Virgin Queen, is now in beta testing. Forum here: http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.1dd437e5
Bookmarked that. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 08, 2009, 04:17:53 PM
I've been laying off buying any new games, anticipating the year end Christmas sales.
I'm gonna rape my credit card.
And the sales start, but the one retailer starting early doesn't use an online order form. :lol:
Quote from: garbon on October 10, 2009, 12:28:15 AM
Bookmarked that. :blush:
The playtest group that's been formed on Yahoo-Groups has some pretty interesting chatter on it. Unfortunately, it also has the usual cadre of people who want to design a game by proxy and so don't quite get that the designer has already laid down the basis of the game and just wants people to kick the tires where necessary.
Still, it looks to be pretty neat thus far.
Quote from: Habbaku on October 10, 2009, 10:20:15 PM
Unfortunately, it also has the usual cadre of people who want to design a game by proxy and so don't quite get that the designer has already laid down the basis of the game and just wants people to kick the tires where necessary.
Well I suppose that naturally follows when you see things like this on Consim:
Quote
It may be that after the death of Henry III it is assumed the Valois dynasty is over and France operates with a 0 Admin Rating and no card bonuses. But I'm up for suggestions on how to untangle that web if anyone has some.
Quote from: The Brain on September 07, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 07, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
Wasn't there a free version of this posted online somewhere, complete with decent graphics?
Yes and IIRC GW finally closed them down. Maybe when the current Space Hulk project got the go-ahead.
I think I have it on my other computer.
Found it : http://www.teardown.se/
:)
This looks pretty neat : http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38309
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.boardgamegeek.com%2Fimages%2Fpic581821_lg.jpg&hash=32777559aca8d3c2e20ac07dddfdf2bd12a88563)
Not sure if I will buy a copy or not, but I'm certainly considering it.
Quote from: Habbaku on October 19, 2009, 07:48:03 PM
Not sure if I will buy a copy or not, but I'm certainly considering it.
I couldn't find a "Eradicate Martinus' Forefathers" option, so I'd pass.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 19, 2009, 08:34:08 PM
I couldn't find a "Eradicate Martinus' Forefathers" option, so I'd pass.
You could just lose on purpose by using the "Liberum Veto" option over and over again each turn. Poland then sinks into the swamp 100 years early. Win-win, as far as I can tell.
God certainly has a sense of humor.
Quote from: The Brain on October 20, 2009, 09:51:47 AM
God certainly has a sense of humor.
At least until God's recess is over and she has to leave God's Playground to go back to God's Kindergarten Class and use God's Fingerpaint Set.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 19, 2009, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 19, 2009, 07:48:03 PM
Not sure if I will buy a copy or not, but I'm certainly considering it.
I couldn't find a "Eradicate Martinus' Forefathers" option, so I'd pass.
That is in the expansion,
God's Slip and Slide.
I ordered OCS Burma yesterday, will make a solid effort to finally get my head wrapped around that system, people keep going on about it.
Plus I've played a lot of Twilight Struggle recently. Fucking hell, that is a good game.
Quote from: Delirium on October 21, 2009, 10:22:26 AM
I've played a lot of Twilight Struggle recently. Fucking hell, that is a good game.
:yes:
It's an RPG but whatever, I bought Rogue Trader.
It's a nice volume similar to all the other Warhammer 40k RPG books. Some lack of proofreading though: sacred/scared, sight/site... running spellcheck doth not proofreading make. Some strange use of "contemporaries", seems to mean colleagues.
I was going to be money conscious, what with the Xmas season coming up, but fuck it. I'm selfish.
Ordered OCS Baltic Gap and the ASL Starter Kit #1 Expansion.
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-213-the-battle-for-normandy.aspx
Might as well drop a clicker in the box. One click if your opponent is a rules lawyer, 2 clicks if he counts every fucking factor before deciding an attack.
Games like that are perfect for PBEM. -_-
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 04, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-213-the-battle-for-normandy.aspx
Might as well drop a clicker in the box. One click if your opponent is a rules lawyer, 2 clicks if he counts every fucking factor before deciding an attack.
Yeah, I'm pulling the trigger on that one when it's ready. Exact same map and scale as The Longest Day. Without the fruity non-NATO German unit designation.
WTF IS WITH THESE FLAGS MAN
As long as they have my Ost Bicycle Battalions setting up way the fuck over on the lower left corner of the map I am happy.
The Big Brown Truck arrived today. God, I never get over the thrill of seeing that box on my doorstep. :D
OCS Baltic Gap is another sweet production. And, after Case Blue and GBII, it's nice to finally see some Red Army units with some serious shit behind them for a change, tear assing through Latvian SS wannabes with the 4th Shock.
Fucking Bagration was no joke.
Speaking of production values...
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22420
:bowler: :frog:
Wow.
And a dice tower only a grumbler grognard could love:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.boardgamegeek.com%2Fimages%2Fpic450924_md.jpg&hash=81b825658cb19fb10340cacfa03e1bc5628f7760)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.boardgamegeek.com%2Fimages%2Fpic450926_md.jpg&hash=2442f5a1123221ea0fa0f40b3529d4a445655675)
I expect i'll soon be playing Stronghold- a polish game a friend of mine has been following.
I am moderately enthused.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 07:14:49 PM
Wow.
And a dice tower only a grumbler grognard could love:
(snip)
No "grumbler grognard" would have that dice tower with "Battles of Napoleon" plastered on it. One can get a much better game and figures by buying some miniatures rules and plastic figures. I cannot imagine why anyone would pay $150 for a game with a board that looks to be about 12 hexes by 24.
It appears I have a 50% discount for one GMT boardgame. Which one should it be? Before anyone says Pursuit of Glory or Kaiser's Pirates, I own those already.
What a helpful crowd this is. <_<
I'm trying to resist the urge to get SPQR : Deluxe, myself. It is a Berg game, but it is also a Herman game...and, shockingly, it seems to have good marks from a lot of people.
Wouldn't Berg + Herman be worse than either of them alone???
Strangely, it seems that they somehow balance each other out. Their games alone seem to all blow chunks, but their collaborative efforts have worked out, as far as I can tell.
I own SPQR Deluxe, haven't played it. Likely never will. :lol:
Mark Simonitch's The Caucasus Campaign came today and I've already punched and set it up. Looks good and the rules aren't too long, but seem complex enough to make it enjoyable.
The Russian opening position looks fucked...
Still having trouble deciding on what, if anything, I want to buy from GMT with their 50% off sale. I qualify for three or four games or something, but don't really, really want anything.
Tamas, do you want to work out something for us both to buy so that we can do PBEM? I'm looking, specifically, at Carthage or SPQR : Deluxe, since BGG gives them both decent rankings. I'm open to suggestion, though.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 19, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
I'm looking, specifically, at Carthage
Very nice game, IMHO. Not too big considering what it covers.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 19, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
Still having trouble deciding on what, if anything, I want to buy from GMT with their 50% off sale. I qualify for three or four games or something, but don't really, really want anything.
Tamas, do you want to work out something for us both to buy so that we can do PBEM? I'm looking, specifically, at Carthage or SPQR : Deluxe, since BGG gives them both decent rankings. I'm open to suggestion, though.
Sure. I am covered with lightweight games for my slightly-gamer RL friends, so I would indeed prefer some more serious stuff for pbem. Will look into the options.
I have been eyeing Carthage for a while now. It looks both extremely tempting and extremely intimidating. With a 50% pricecut, it might just worth it. But, it is on sale I think anyhow :D For $35. If thats a general sale of it, I'll be ordering it beside my 50% pick.
As for SPQR Deluxe, I am not big on tactical simulations. Especially that Slitherine will soon be coming out with a ancient-era miniature rules conversion that previewers seem to like.
So, any other suggestions?
If Flying Colors was available from GMT i'd be all over it.
Quote from: Tamas on November 20, 2009, 04:08:14 AM
I have been eyeing Carthage for a while now. It looks both extremely tempting and extremely intimidating. With a 50% pricecut, it might just worth it. But, it is on sale I think anyhow :D For $35. If thats a general sale of it, I'll be ordering it beside my 50% pick.
It is, indeed, on sale at the moment--but the extra discount also applies to it. Basically, it's $17.50 before shipping or anything else is applied, which is why I considered it.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 20, 2009, 12:26:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 20, 2009, 04:08:14 AM
I have been eyeing Carthage for a while now. It looks both extremely tempting and extremely intimidating. With a 50% pricecut, it might just worth it. But, it is on sale I think anyhow :D For $35. If thats a general sale of it, I'll be ordering it beside my 50% pick.
It is, indeed, on sale at the moment--but the extra discount also applies to it. Basically, it's $17.50 before shipping or anything else is applied, which is why I considered it.
Well, for that price you're getting a lot of game.
Yep, which is why I will, in the end, make an order of it. Just trying to decide whether I want to add Blue vs. Gray or another ancients game or not.
I'm not going to buy it but I got hard when I saw the Adolf Hitler counter in BERLIN - Fall of the 3rd Reich (ASL).
Today in the mail : Carthage and... Maria! :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40354
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Meanwhile, my investment scheme into DAK2 ( http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12234 ) worked out great. I bought it when it originally came out for the pre-order price and have just traded it off to some OCS-tard for a trio of games that are all in great condition (one even unpunched!).
Hammer of the Scots :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3685
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Liberte! :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2507
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And the unpunched one--another game from Azure Wish :
Rossyia 1917 :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/288
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Now I just need time to play some of them...
Hammer is simple enough for a chick to play.
Yeah, that's actually the one I'm likely to play first with a friend of mine. His dad is also due in town for the holidays, too, so we're probably going to swing a game of Maria near Christmas, as well.
I'm really looking forward to Maria. I'm hoping it'll smooth out some of the problems of Friedrich while maintaining the elegance of the original game.
i'm very new to boardgames (aside from your usual: monopoly, risk, scrabble, life, etc), and i thought i would introduce myself by purchasing one for a friend for her upcoming birthday. her interests are evolution, genetics, animals, and really anything scientific (she thinks space is silly, though, go figure). complexity isn't a problem, but the number of players might be. i don't have any sort of gaming group, so it would likely be just us plus maybe the occasional third. american megafauna seems the way to go, from what i've read on this boardgamegeek site. would anyone have any experience with it, good or bad, or any other suggestions?
:lol: Who's sockpuppet?
Quote from: Habbaku on December 02, 2009, 10:25:58 PM
:lol: Who's sockpuppet?
i don't know which is worse.. "wtfau" or that. "wtfau" at least implies i'm a person! :lol:
i would deny that i'm sockpuppet, but i don't know if it would help. either way, would you have any ideas? unless i'm mistaken, you know your boardgames.
Yes Jaron, Megafauna is a good idea :lol:
Oh, and Carthage has been ordered
Quote from: Habbaku on December 02, 2009, 04:27:34 PM
and have just traded it off to some OCS-tard
They certainly have become their own breed, now haven't they?
Lacroix is not me. I wouldnt even play your crap evolution games on a sockpuppet, Tamas.
Twilight Struggle has got to be one of my favourite games ever.
Stopping communism in its tracks feels so monumentally satisfying. The game itself is gripping, because at all points im watching the communists TAKE OVER THE WORLD. There's an incentive to stick with it, the game is fast and non-repetitive. I am definetely pleased.
Edit: I cant prove anything, but I am fairly sure I know who Lacroix is. Not a sock puppet, in that case. Used to go by Zhouvas in the old forum- maybe 50 posts the whole run.
what's the problem with american megafauna? :unsure:
Quote from: Lacroix on December 03, 2009, 08:55:34 AM
what's the problem with american megafauna? :unsure:
Mostly the fact Tamas recommends it.
Quote from: Jaron on December 03, 2009, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 03, 2009, 08:55:34 AM
what's the problem with american megafauna? :unsure:
Mostly the fact Tamas recommends it.
and that you abandoned a game of it :P
Lacroix, its a nice game but interest in the subject matter is very much required.
if that's the case, perfect. looks like i'll be picking it up. thanks! :)
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
And dont play with ulmont or Tamas. They never finish games with me. <_<
Quote from: Jaron on December 04, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
And dont play with ulmont or Tamas. They never finish games with me. <_<
:lmfao:
Yes, I suppose that's true...when
you abandon the game and don't make a move before ACTS auto-deletes the game, we never finish.
But we have finished a lot of games, mostly by me cutting all the French OOS by Fall 1914.
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Jaron on December 04, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
And dont play with ulmont or Tamas. They never finish games with me. <_<
:lmfao:
Yes, I suppose that's true...when you abandon the game and don't make a move before ACTS auto-deletes the game, we never finish.
But we have finished a lot of games, mostly by me cutting all the French OOS by Fall 1914.
:pinch:
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
also: does anyone recommend paths of glory?
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
nice, i'll consider it for future purchase.. :shifty:
thanks
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
nice, i'll consider it for future purchase.. :shifty:
You should return American Megafauna and get Paths of Glory instead.
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 04, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 04, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Paths of Glory is a great game. Watch your supply lines.
nice, i'll consider it for future purchase.. :shifty:
You should return American Megafauna and get Paths of Glory instead.
Kind of sad to really have those two games in the same sentence, really.
i haven't purchased either. the problem is.. it's for my friend. she is obsessed with evolution, animals, and etc. i asked her what her favorite war is, ever, not wanting to allude to what i am getting her for her birthday, and she said ww1. so, though paths of glory might be a better game, i think american megafauna might be more to her liking
If your female friend likes Paths of Glory, you should probably go ahead and marry her.
:lol:
she's not exactly the marriageable type, but the recommendations here might just persuade me to get paths rather than twilight struggle for my own sake. a nice, two player game would be good to have around :)
Nude pics?
No of the girl, katmai. :bleeding:
My birthday is in a few days but I opened my present from my girlfriend tonight. She bought me: Hellenes - Campaigns of the Peloponnesian War (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/10788) Going to play a game with her in the next few hours here.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 20, 2009, 06:04:38 PM
Well, for that price you're getting a lot of game.
So many charts. :lol:
Quote from: Habbaku on December 09, 2009, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 20, 2009, 06:04:38 PM
Well, for that price you're getting a lot of game.
So many charts. :lol:
lol, Big Brown Van showed up, huh?
Yeah, there's a lot of paper product in that puppy. The chart density definitely exceeds the counter density.
We played "Revolution: The Dutch Revolt 1568-1648" (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9215/revolution-the-dutch-revolt-1568-1648 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9215/revolution-the-dutch-revolt-1568-1648)) last Monday, with a new member of our gaming group (a CdM kind of guy, has tons of games and until now almost nobody to play them with). So, so funny. We had a blast, and laughed a lot. Very recommended if you have a 5 people gaming group.
Quote from: The Larch on December 09, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
(a CdM kind of guy, has tons of games and until now almost nobody to play them with).
LOL, I'm rearranging my gaming closet. Wait till you guys see the pics.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 09, 2009, 06:52:10 PM
lol, Big Brown Van showed up, huh?
Yeah, there's a lot of paper product in that puppy. The chart density definitely exceeds the counter density.
USPS, actually. It came last week, but I didn't really get around to digging through all my stuff until today. I read a decent amount of the scenario book for the usual Bergian commentary, though.
Played Maria over the weekend. Excellent game, I think it's a big improvement over Friedrich.
Quote from: frunk on December 09, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
Played Maria over the weekend. Excellent game, I think it's a big improvement over Friedrich.
:) Good to hear. How'd it go? What strategies and such did you learn about the respective powers?
Quote from: Habbaku on December 09, 2009, 10:46:02 PM
:) Good to hear. How'd it go? What strategies and such did you learn about the respective powers?
I played Prussia/Pragmatic Army and the schizophrenia of playing positions both for and against Austria isn't that bad. It helped that Austria abandoned their position in Flanders quite early, so I didn't have to worry about helping them get vps by beating up on France. I think the Prussians have to take Silesia quickly and/or make sure Saxony stays on their side. Saxony went neutral and I failed to conquer Silesia. Prussia deteriorated rapidly. I barely managed to keep Austria from winning. On the 9th turn Austria needed one vp, France needed one and my Pragmatics needed two. Prussia was hopeless. I fended off Austria, France wasn't in position to collect another and I flagged one more fortress while getting a big enough victory in battle to collect the last vp necessary.
The political deck works very well, ignore it at your peril. Austria has the tiebreak advantage and the extra cardflow so can most easily leverage it. If playing the other positions make sure they don't get it cheaply. Austria starts card poor and in a lousy position to defend, but can rapidly change that if the opponents are slow in attacking.
France has to maintain pressure on Austria and the Pragmatic Army. If they get distracted by one they'll almost certainly lose to the other.
Hussars make supply train placement painfully important. Controlling fortresses is not only a way to win but can protect your flanks from sudden force marches. Losing big battles is even more costly than in Friedrich, be confident of victory or getting a -1 or -2 retreat before fighting. Losing by 3 or more can be a 2-4 vp swing when countries need 3-13 vps to win at the start of the game.
Habs, considering that I will not read through the myriad of rules of Carthage in the foreseeable future, I say we finally should give Spartacus a try. I think that game could be really good and interesting, but I have yet to play it against an opponent. Here is the vassal module:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/avxlnyw43tw/Spartacus-v1.0
I have given Spartacus several tries. It is a terrible game.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
I have given Spartacus several tries. It is a terrible game.
:(
Why?
Might be interesting:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=98&esem=1
Quote from: Tamas on December 12, 2009, 10:02:46 AM
:(
Why?
Where do I start?
The combat system is ripped off from
Sword of Rome, a game in which it works. For those that aren't aware, SoR's combat system is, essentially, roll 3d6--5s and 6s inflict a certain amount of step losses. There are then some modifiers based upon the type of units involved, leadership and force disparity, but the modifiers don't affect the losses except for purposes of determining which side loses/routs. The losing side then has to undergo a potential rout where they have to roll against their leader's rating to see if they then lose another die roll worth of steps. In SoR, this works out quite well, judging from what players of it tell me, because the amount of troops you get is not anemic.
It doesn't work in Spartacus because, while the amount of replacement steps the Sertorian player gets is related to the amount of territory they control (2 steps per province of Spain, plus legions for controlling Italian provinces) while, on the other side, the Romans get a single die-roll of steps per turn. Legions, at full strength, are 2-step units (meaning if you roll a 6, you'll get 3 new legions or replacements for 6) that are 4-4 combat/movement units. The average Sertorian unit is a 2-6 unit that can be trained to better units. At their worst, the Sertorians will get 6 steps from turn 1 (maybe 8 if they do well enough), then, most likely, 10-12+ for the remainder of the game, and that's assuming they control no spaces in Italy, which unlocks their legionary units.
Now, taking all that into account, things might work out well enough, except that the way activations work allows the Sertorian player to simply play a 4 ops card and literally to send his 2-6 Spanish light units on suicide charges against the Romans. Since step-losses are determined by die-roll (1 step lost for a 5, 2 for a 6), then Sertorian player has no real reason to give a damn if he loses one of his weak units--he will be getting 10-12+ of them at the end of the turn and if he rolls a 6 on either of his 4 battles, he's effectively "won," because, again, the Romans simply can't afford the losses.
On the non-combat-related side of things, the game has a "Crisis Track" which allows the possible collapse of the Roman Republic by internal strife. Various things affect it, such as losing provinces, losing legions, raising legions, events, the retirement and death of Sulla, etc. The only problem with the Crisis Track is that it doesn't actually matter. Never, in any of the games I have played, has the thing gone anywhere near the -30 side of the scale because of the way the Romans regain stability. They do so, primarily, by controlling provinces. That wouldn't be so bad except, at its worst, the Romans are "only" gaining 6 points a turn due to the difference in provinces. Since the game starts out with them at +25/30 and effectively gaining 10+ points a turn until the Sertorians really start to get moving, they are incentivized to never really worry about the negative effects of their "home cards," nor the number of legions they have on the board--the game simply doesn't go on enough turns to force them to care, since there are no negative effects beyond hitting the magical -30 mark.
Lastly (though I have other qualms about it that I'm getting too tired to type about) is the event system of the game. Either events are over-powered (White Stag, for example) or are simply meaningless. The biggest of these is the event chain of the Lepidus/Perpenna. The event chain has three cards that must be played before it is "completed," and two of them are random with the third being a home/resource card of one of the players. This, of course, means that the events will likely never happen because to even begin the chain requires that Lepidus' revolt starts--something that could happen as early as turn 2, or even never happen. Once that starts, one of the events must be played, then the second event played, then the
third event played before it is all complete. Since only one of the players really wants the event to cycle through completely, that further raises the unlikeliness of it ever coming to fruition. That being the case...I have to wonder why it's even in the game to begin with.
Then again, the whole mess was "developed" by Neil Randall, who is one of Richard H. "I-Was-A-Lawyer-Once-You-Know" Berg's cronies so I can't be too surprised that I got a stinker. The guy pretty much lets the designers do as they please, which results in wildly divergent quality for the games he develops (see :
Pursuit of Glory, compare to
Onward, Christian Soldiers).
Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2009, 12:00:27 PM
Might be interesting:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=98&esem=1
Only two-player = lame.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2009, 12:13:38 PM
Richard H. "I-Was-A-Lawyer-Once-You-Know" Berg's cronies
:lol: There are pretentious assholes, and then there's Richard H. Berg, Esq.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
I have given Spartacus several tries. It is a terrible game.
Good thing I never punched my copy.
There's a guy at P'dpx doing an AAR of a board game: Der Weltkrieg.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442205
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Quote from: sbr on December 13, 2009, 03:42:29 AM
There's a guy at P'dpx doing an AAR of a board game: Der Weltkrieg.
I'm not big into WW1 strategy-level games, but a buddy of mine swears by the Weltkrieg system. Apparently, the last module on the Eastern Med and the Levant is coming out in the next year.
Twilight in the East is getting some good reviews over here.
Carthage: cheap, impossible to stay awake.
Quote from: Delirium on December 14, 2009, 12:18:03 PM
Carthage: cheap, impossible to stay awake.
The game seems well-suited for PBEM.
Yeah, I mean it looks really interesting and I bought it too when it was not quite so cheap but I never managed to keep myself focused during those long rules paragraphs. But it's definitely on my list of "I swear to play this before I die" games.
I've played a couple of Richard III games (Columbia's new block game), really neat. It is my first block game though, so I might just be infatuated with the system.
'Tis the season... to ask for board game recommendations. Anyone have any? Generally, the easier to play, the better.
Quote from: Kleves on December 14, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
'Tis the season... to ask for board game recommendations. Anyone have any? Generally, the easier to play, the better.
SPI's Campaign For North Africa.
Quote from: PDH on December 14, 2009, 06:31:38 PM
SPI's Campaign For North Africa.
The pasta thing is a rule too far for me.
Anybody have any experience using the Vassal module for Flat Top? Or is Cyberboard the only option for a double-blind game?
Habbaku when are you getting Republic of Rome? I am very in the mood of playing it but I have no desire to GM. Why do you need the new edition for it anyways? :P
The game will get to me when Valley Games proves that they're a real company by shipping relatively on time.
They are, thus far, stating that they'll get the shipment in when US Customs finishes poking through the container holding all the stuff. I suspect the game will actually get to me in early January.
Meanwhile, the rules have been posted online. Anyone interested in playing should go ahead and read them :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50461
Hellenes is pretty sweet! Good game.
Just got Conflict of Heroes for my roommate. we'll see how it is.
Quote from: Tamas on December 17, 2009, 07:06:30 AM
Habbaku when are you getting Republic of Rome? I am very in the mood of playing it but I have no desire to GM. Why do you need the new edition for it anyways? :P
I remember that Languish had a really fun game of that...
Quote from: garbon on December 20, 2009, 12:39:57 AM
I remember that Languish had a really fun game of that...
It was on par with our Diplomacy games.
Well it was BB's fault. :P
For this one I would prefer players from among the grognards. Habbaku will be GM, so I am not sure there is enough of us to fill the ranks. :P
Quote from: Tamas on December 20, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
Well it was BB's fault. :P
For this one I would prefer players from among the grognards.
Well there is your problem, we don't have any French here really.
Quote from: Tamas on December 20, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
Well it was BB's fault. :P
For this one I would prefer players from among the grognards. Habbaku will be GM, so I am not sure there is enough of us to fill the ranks. :P
Not sure I qual as a grognard, but I have the name for it. I might be able to get a player or two from our old group, if people here are willing to tolerate some n00bs to Languish to get some grogs at RoR.
Battle for Normandy is due out soon. Should prove fun. Some yuckster already modded the map in true, fanboi fashion :
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Quote from: Habbaku on December 18, 2009, 06:51:11 PM
The game will get to me when Valley Games proves that they're a real company by shipping relatively on time.
They are, thus far, stating that they'll get the shipment in when US Customs finishes poking through the container holding all the stuff. I suspect the game will actually get to me in early January.
Meanwhile, the rules have been posted online. Anyone interested in playing should go ahead and read them :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50461
I was in a gaming group meetup last weekend and Torben from Valley Games was there and he was griping about the game being held up. Sounded like he was working hard at trying to get it resolved but that the issue was out of his control.
While I believe them when they say that the shipping stuff is out of their control and that Customs is messing them up at the moment, I am not really inclined to give them much slack or even necessarily believe them at face-value on some of the other delays that the game has gone through due to their mishandling of the other games they've made.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 21, 2009, 09:16:57 PM
Battle for Normandy is due out soon.
CSW says its available now. Gonna get it next week. Merry Xmas to me.
Well, it is technically available. I'm awaiting that and Battle Above the Clouds.
Played Conflict of Heroes, great fun. Really happy with it.
I haven't finished reading the Carthage rules (is there a lot of them or what), but I must say I am mildly intriqued. It's been a while I attempted a theme>gameplay game.
Any expert opinion on the game system in general?
Habbaku, I am just about ready to try a PBEM of Carthage.
Carthage is actually quite fun :D
The game uses a chit-drawing activation system which is quite good I think because not only it makes the game quite solitaire friendly, it eliminates much of the lack-of-FOW problems.
I am running a solitaire 1st Punic War game, after getting a taste in the Mercenary War scenario.
After 6 years of back-and-forth fighting the Carthage-Syracuse alliance seemed to get the upper hand, having defeated both Consular Armies, one being locked up in Messana under siege of Hiero, Tyrant of Syracuse, and attriting away under Carthagian blockade, the other only a shell of it former self, waiting for disbandment hiding behind the walls of one of the minor cities.
A third force of 2 legions was about to besiege Syracuse, but a punic fleet drove away the Roman blockade which made the whole affair just about hopeless, even without the victorious Carthagian army full of elite Numidian cavalry coming upon them from western Sicily.
And this is when, in a hurry to use Messana as a hiding place while the Puns deal with the 2 legions in his back, Hiero attempted Treachery to finish the job on Messana. However, I roll an extremely bad roll for him and he ended up being trapped by the assumed conspirators and killed :D Now the Syracuse forces are basically immobilized and Rome still has a safe foothold on Sicily.
We tried Caylus yesterday. Had lots of fun, but my brain hurt by the end of the game. Curiously enough, I think it's a game better suited for a small group (2-3 people) rather than the usually recommended 4-5 group.
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2010, 07:48:11 AM
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
:)
Hilarious, a argument over the title of one game. Thanks Tamas, I would have missed the hilarity. :D
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2010, 07:48:11 AM
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
Games about American history = fail.
I'll order Pax Baltica, okay?
Damn Swedes.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 08, 2010, 10:23:37 AM
I'll order Pax Baltica, okay?
Damn Swedes.
Seems fair. For every game about America you get you have to get one about Sweden.
I am not ordering the ball bearing game. Or IKEA, the experience.
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2010, 07:48:11 AM
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
I'd love Black and Tan, but I don't want to fight it in the 20's, I want to fight it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
I mean, really now, how could you NOT want a counter representing a Volkswagen van with the roof cut off for a mortar??? GO IRISH BEAT SC
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2010, 07:48:11 AM
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
I'd love Black and Tan, but I don't want to fight it in the 20's, I want to fight it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
I mean, really now, how could you NOT want a counter representing a Volkswagen van with the roof cut off for a mortar??? GO IRISH BEAT SC
:lol:
26 + 6 = 1
The one I am most looking forward is labyrinth, already have it preordered.
For me, Rome vs. Rome.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37836/rome-vs-rome
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 10, 2010, 10:31:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2010, 07:48:11 AM
So many games to look forward to:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50061/your-most-anticipated-wargames-of-2010/page/1)
I'd love Black and Tan, but I don't want to fight it in the 20's, I want to fight it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
I mean, really now, how could you NOT want a counter representing a Volkswagen van with the roof cut off for a mortar??? GO IRISH BEAT SC
:lol:
26 + 6 = 1
Ironically, I believe that's also the USC/Notre Dame W/L record. :(
The games I'm definitely doling out for in 2010:
MMP's Where Eagles Dare (Devil's Cauldron addition) and the other game in the series, No Question of Surrender
MMP's The Tide at Sunrise: The Russo-Japanese War 1904-1905
MMP's Angola (which probably won't come out until 2011)
COA's Triumph of Fascism (if it's even released)
COA's next Battles of The Age or Reason game on Prague
COA's Fires of Midway (I'm telling you, you carrier warfare fans will enjoy this)
MMP's King Philip's War (Scalping English colonists? I'm so there)
Still have to pick up Decision Games' PTO.
I would exert some patience on PTO if I were you. There are just too many issues with the rules and play aids right now that you'd develop an ulcer trying to make sense of it. If you can get it at around half price second hand it's probably worth it though.
<<boner>>
http://www.criticalhit.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_40&products_id=288
But it is Critcal Hit. :(
Quote from: Delirium on January 11, 2010, 09:47:27 AM
I would exert some patience on PTO if I were you. There are just too many issues with the rules and play aids right now that you'd develop an ulcer trying to make sense of it. If you can get it at around half price second hand it's probably worth it though.
Really? That broken?
We've ran a global campaign since August and we would have packed it up after two sessions if our rules guru hadn't been equipped with superhero patience (he has three daughters, it might have something to do with it). Regular folk, like you and me, not so much.
The designer is on CSW to answer questions, but it's along the lines of "if I remember correctly, you're supposed to..." and "I usually play that like..." and "I don't want to tell you about that, it would spoil your experience in the late game". It took us three months to figure out if Chinese units could stack with one another.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 11, 2010, 06:02:26 PM
<<boner>>
http://www.criticalhit.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_40&products_id=288
But it is Critcal Hit. :(
And if the Germans win, they remain at strength, lose 2 random units to dysentery and lack of food, while the Russians resurrect all the attackers and have another go?
Quote from: Lucidor on January 12, 2010, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 11, 2010, 06:02:26 PM
<<boner>>
http://www.criticalhit.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_40&products_id=288
But it is Critcal Hit. :(
And if the Germans win, they remain at strength, lose 2 random units to dysentery and lack of food, while the Russians resurrect all the attackers and have another go?
Hitler becomes a god and strikes down every communist with his flaming sword.
To be serious, Berlin '45 games are usually a hoot. Lots of killin'.
Speaking of Berlin games, me and one of my friends are going to get a game of Fortress Berlin going one day.Whenever the Navy stops taking all his time, that is.
http://www.atomagazine.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=40
<<boner #2>>
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-299-kawanakajima-1561.aspx
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
<<boner #2>>
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-299-kawanakajima-1561.aspx
Not enough Zeros.
Try this then:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3772/opcoronetmap.jpg
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 06:28:02 PM
Try this then:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3772/opcoronetmap.jpg
Much better than that leather and arrow bullshit. Medieval conflict is bad enough in Europe, in Japan it's even worse. ZOMG WHERES MY ORIENTAL ADVENTURES HANDBOOK
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 06:28:02 PM
Try this then:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3772/opcoronetmap.jpg
Much better than that leather and arrow bullshit. Medieval conflict is bad enough in Europe, in Japan it's even worse. ZOMG WHERES MY ORIENTAL ADVENTURES HANDBOOK
:lol:
The japs at least have their head collecting fetish. Although I don't think I've ever seen a game with that.
Anybody have GMT's Wilderness War? I have a chance to score a copy since it's OOP, wondering what people thought about it.
I have it and it's a fun game, but not really all that deep. I prefer POG or TOC to it, but, then, playing WW takes all of a couple of hours.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 14, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
I have it and it's a fun game, but not really all that deep. I prefer POG or TOC to it, but, then, playing WW takes all of a couple of hours.
Just looking for something 7 Years War in NA; I'd prefer something operational, but not too many options out there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 10:42:05 PM
Anybody have GMT's Wilderness War? I have a chance to score a copy since it's OOP, wondering what people thought about it.
I would rank it as not as good as POG or PUG, but better than FTP.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 14, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
I have it and it's a fun game, but not really all that deep. I prefer POG or TOC to it, but, then, playing WW takes all of a couple of hours.
Just looking for something 7 Years War in NA; I'd prefer something operational, but not too many options out there.
Get
Clash of Monarchs, instead. It's not NA, but it's a pretty damn fun operational game of the period. :)
Quote from: Habbaku on January 14, 2010, 11:20:40 PMGet Clash of Monarchs, instead. It's not NA, but it's a pretty damn fun operational game of the period. :)
Yeah, I was thinking about that one, but gosh darnit, no Magua counters. LULZ TEH WHITE HAIR PWND
Quote from: Habbaku on January 14, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 14, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
I have it and it's a fun game, but not really all that deep. I prefer POG or TOC to it, but, then, playing WW takes all of a couple of hours.
Just looking for something 7 Years War in NA; I'd prefer something operational, but not too many options out there.
Not really comparable though - WW is a LOT lighter. CoM is pretty "heavy", while WW is one of the simpler CDGs. I think WW is very good, myself.
Get Clash of Monarchs, instead. It's not NA, but it's a pretty damn fun operational game of the period. :)
Yeah, but instead of Magua you get Frederick putting the fear of God into people whenever he pays a visit to a theatre.
Your are up in Battle for Normandy.
Quote from: Berkut on January 14, 2010, 11:46:48 PM
Your are up in Battle for Normandy.
You've internalized the rules to that monster already?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 11:48:48 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 14, 2010, 11:46:48 PM
Your are up in Battle for Normandy.
You've internalized the rules to that monster already?
It is a monster in counter count only - rules wise it is pretty simple, actually.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 06:46:32 PM
The japs at least have their head collecting fetish. Although I don't think I've ever seen a game with that.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpictureisunrelated.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F12%2F129065810283836230.jpg&hash=3e98eeb13fb58636cb4f7fc327522ba1f89861c7)
I may have asked this before, but did anybody (Berk, Habs?) try GMT's Great War in Europe from a few years ago? I've managed to cut through all the map and counter errata and have the rules down pretty good now, starting a ftf test next week.
Me and Habs started a game, but it languished - my fault, and we never got it going again.
I see. It really is errata heavy, found even more stuff. Did they have a bad day over at GMT?
Tried two new games today, Shogun and the new edition of Republic of Rome. Great fun with both.
There is some cheap games at the Troll and Toad sale:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/Board-Games-%26-Card-Games/5611-1321p1n10.html
The GMT stuff is mostly picked over. *cough*
Lots of stuff lately, some of which I've already mentioned.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1513/the-republic-of-rome
Republic of Rome, which I'm still reading the rules to, but seems like fun. Political back-biting combined with competitive-cooperative play seems a good mixture.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33665/battle-above-the-clouds
Battle Above the Clouds, the latest in the GCACW series. Not sure how this one will work out, but the system itself is rock solid. The rules for insubordination and the give-and-take of the actual campaign lead me to believe this will be a nice game, overall.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/32838/the-battle-for-normandy
The Battle for Normandy, a "mini-monster" or playable monster-game from GMT. The rules are somewhat weird at first, but there aren't many of them and exceptions/special cases seem to be in relatively short supply. I'm in a game with Berkut and a couple of others right now and it's starting to become enjoyable for me. Unfortunately, Berkut has pretty much slowed us down at every turn.
As Tamas mentioned, I will likely run a Republic of Rome game here before too long...
Quote from: Habbaku on January 18, 2010, 09:52:44 PM
The Battle for Normandy, a "mini-monster" or playable monster-game from GMT. The rules are somewhat weird at first, but there aren't many of them and exceptions/special cases seem to be in relatively short supply. I'm in a game with Berkut and a couple of others right now and it's starting to become enjoyable for me. Unfortunately, Berkut has pretty much slowed us down at every turn.
:ultra:
the truth hurts eh berkie?
Also just wanted to say thanks for this thread guys some interesting games, none I'll ever play probably but good to see what is out there these days.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 18, 2010, 09:52:44 PMhttp://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1513/the-republic-of-rome
Republic of Rome, which I'm still reading the rules to, but seems like fun. Political back-biting combined with competitive-cooperative play seems a good mixture.
The new edition or the old one? BGG is down, so I can't check the link. If it's the new one, we've played that in my group last week, we made a warm up/tutorial in which we played the Early Republic phase, and will soon start the whole campaign. We also have experience with the old edition, which is much nastier and difficult IMO. If you have doubts or need tips, just ask. :)
So new RoR is less difficult than old RoR? :(
BTW I am looking for an European time-zone PBEM opponent who can do turns during office hours so I am less bored. I am flexible in regards game to be played.
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 02:32:29 AM
So new RoR is less difficult than old RoR? :(
They tweaked the rules just a little bit, though all of the changes listed in the back of the rules seem to just be including the errata and improving the thematic stuff, which is a good thing. I don't know if anything was actually made easier on the players, though.
I will check it out later.
Early Republic -altough being the best learning scenario since you dont have to worry much about provinces or internal intrique since you are fighting for mere survival- with noobs used to gravitate heavily toward either total defeat, or Scipio Africanus just pwning everyone in terms of influence.
Well, the new edition (and maybe the old one, too?) offers the chance to play a "campaign game" that just continues right on from the Early Republic, so I would think that would prevent someone from running away with things easily.
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 02:32:29 AM
So new RoR is less difficult than old RoR? :(
BTW I am looking for an European time-zone PBEM opponent who can do turns during office hours so I am less bored. I am flexible in regards game to be played.
The old RoR is way too hard in the Early Republic phase, IMO the changes improve playability. The new edition is still tough, don't get me wrong, it's simply not agonic anymore.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 19, 2010, 02:52:38 AM
Well, the new edition (and maybe the old one, too?) offers the chance to play a "campaign game" that just continues right on from the Early Republic, so I would think that would prevent someone from running away with things easily.
That's the way it should be played. The Early Republic phase is survival and building your base for the rest of the game.
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 02:48:40 AM
I will check it out later.
Early Republic -altough being the best learning scenario since you dont have to worry much about provinces or internal intrique since you are fighting for mere survival- with noobs used to gravitate heavily toward either total defeat, or Scipio Africanus just pwning everyone in terms of influence.
The problem with noobs is that they also don't realize the real danger that some situations pose at that point. We lost one game once because a noob got pissed because his general was being passed over in favour of Scipio for the Punic wars, so he assasinated him, with the 2nd Punic War and Hannibal active and overrunning Rome. Of course, the Republic collapsed.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 19, 2010, 02:52:38 AM
Well, the new edition (and maybe the old one, too?) offers the chance to play a "campaign game" that just continues right on from the Early Republic, so I would think that would prevent someone from running away with things easily.
yeah the real meat is the campaign game, its just it takes (took) a game-aware crowd: in the old game having a guy of yours reach 35 Influence meant auto-victory, and Scipio has no trouble accumulating that unless he is taken care of promptly after he does his job.
I once played a PBEM game where one of the players was a really cool mathematics professor from Barcelona. Every turn he sent us these detailed probability analysises in terms of army/fleet building and war-waging options, it was pretty neat and helpful. :D
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 03:07:47 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 19, 2010, 02:52:38 AM
Well, the new edition (and maybe the old one, too?) offers the chance to play a "campaign game" that just continues right on from the Early Republic, so I would think that would prevent someone from running away with things easily.
yeah the real meat is the campaign game, its just it takes (took) a game-aware crowd: in the old game having a guy of yours reach 35 Influence meant auto-victory, and Scipio has no trouble accumulating that unless he is taken care of promptly after he does his job.
IMO, Scipio can be "saved" just for the 2nd Punic war, which is the real monster. The 1st Punic can be dealt with by a generic Field Consul, one of my guys with 4 Military dealt with it without many problems. The real danger is when Hamilcar or Hannibal appears and stack with one of the first two Punics. Then it's panic mode.
IMO, the best way to play the Early Republic is by having a tacit agreement not to piss at each other at the beginning, and total cooperation until at least the 2nd Punic is dealt with, while at the same time avoiding the accumulation of Influence by Scipio or having a certain faction becoming too powerful. After that, it's each faction by itself and business as usual in the Senate.
This can of course go out of the window in many ways, and a mortality chit in the wrong moment can change a whole game.
Yeah, the old RoR usually meant a collapse of Rome due to an overload of Puns, and if not came down to a chance of assassinating Scipio before he reached 35 influence to keep it going. In my opinion the design is flawed, it takes several games worth of experience and the ability to convince your group that the game has to be played in a certain way to extend it beyond the first hour, campaign or no campaign. Of course we usually played it getting warmed up before parties so nobody gave a damn.
Republic of Rome is one of those games that sound much better when you talk about it afterwards than when actually played, much like Mel Brooks movies.
Mid-republic starts should work better, no? :unsure:
Quote from: Delirium on January 19, 2010, 04:11:26 AM
Yeah, the old RoR usually meant a collapse of Rome due to an overload of Puns, and if not came down to a chance of assassinating Scipio before he reached 35 influence to keep it going. In my opinion the design is flawed, it takes several games worth of experience and the ability to convince your group that the game has to be played in a certain way to extend it beyond the first hour, campaign or no campaign. Of course we usually played it getting warmed up before parties so nobody gave a damn.
Republic of Rome is one of those games that sound much better when you talk about it afterwards than when actually played, much like Mel Brooks movies.
IMO, besides the Puns, the other real killer is the Unrest table. A bad roll can send things to hell and back. We were very careful with that, and managed to cap it at 4 during all the Early Republic, which is good, but in other games it can skyrocket easily, with very few options to lower it. It's very easy to get into a vicious cycle of military defeats and growing unrest.
The new edition is tweaked, though. Wars don't accumulate so easily, or at least that was my impression, so they can be dealt with in a better way. You still need a playing group with a team mentality, though.
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 04:14:17 AM
Mid-republic starts should work better, no? :unsure:
Personally, I think that lacks in "flavour", so to speak. I must be a massochist, but I actually like the Early Republic. :lol:
Quote from: The Larch on January 19, 2010, 04:18:37 AMThe new edition is tweaked, though. Wars don't accumulate so easily, or at least that was my impression, so they can be dealt with in a better way. You still need a playing group with a team mentality, though.
I believe that it is an improvement, but team mentality is one thing and "Okay. Stevie, you have the one guy that can beat these wars and keep us from losing the game but if you do you'll almost certainly win, so how about not winning and going into voluntary exile instead, okay?" is another.
Quote from: Delirium on January 19, 2010, 05:17:29 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 19, 2010, 04:18:37 AMThe new edition is tweaked, though. Wars don't accumulate so easily, or at least that was my impression, so they can be dealt with in a better way. You still need a playing group with a team mentality, though.
I believe that it is an improvement, but team mentality is one thing and "Okay. Stevie, you have the one guy that can beat these wars and keep us from losing the game but if you do you'll almost certainly win, so how about not winning and going into voluntary exile instead, okay?" is another.
IMO, the way to solve that is through "panic management", so to speak. That is, you don't want to give Scipio the reins of everything from the first moment he's in the game. The 1st Punic can be dealt with without him, as well as Hamilcar. In the worse moments, a combination of some other guy as Dictator with an able Master of Horse can work well, and there's another general available, Cuncator, that can also be used. You need Scipio to void the Disaster/Standoff results, and those get dangerous only if the two Punics stack up and/or Hannibal appears. If you limit Scipio's involvement to just the key moments, he won't get enough influence to automatically win.
I don't disagree, but I remember it as very difficult to avoid all those special results and sooner or later you find yourself calling on Scipio's door once again.
There was a house rule posted on BGG I think that causes secondary wars to not become active immediately so you had time to fix them one at a time, it worked reasonably well.
Quote from: Delirium on January 19, 2010, 06:14:07 AM
I don't disagree, but I remember it as very difficult to avoid all those special results and sooner or later you find yourself calling on Scipio's door once again.
There was a house rule posted on BGG I think that causes secondary wars to not become active immediately so you had time to fix them one at a time, it worked reasonably well.
Yup, the problem is when the special results stack up. 1st Punic has two, Hamilcar has another two, the 2nd Punic has three and IIRC Hannibal gives another two. Up to 3-4 can be managed, but more than that and you need Scipio no matter what.
As for that house rule, that's actually what I felt was tweaked in the new edition. Wars are more gradual, they don't come all at once. We only had two simultaneous wars in our last game, the 2nd Punic + Hannibal and the Syrian war, although the 2nd Illyrian and one of the Macedonians were around. We were lucky with the New Aliance event as well, which allowed us to postpone the Macedonian War.
Quote from: Tamas on January 19, 2010, 02:32:29 AMBTW I am looking for an European time-zone PBEM opponent who can do turns during office hours so I am less bored. I am flexible in regards game to be played.
I guess that would be me?
Let me think this over though, I might be ready to embark on another CB adventure, I don't know.
Thanks for the discussion by the way, Larch. I wasn't aware that you had this much experience with gaming.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 19, 2010, 06:15:49 PM
Thanks for the discussion by the way, Larch. I wasn't aware that you had this much experience with gaming.
I do play a lot of boardgames, but most of the time not the kind of games that are discussed here. That is, monsters with shitloads of counters that are never taken out of the box (@CdM :P).
Dammit, you faggits have gotten me wanting to order more games. ACK
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 19, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
Dammit, you faggits have gotten me wanting to order more games. ACK
2 orders.
Highway to the Reich and some shit from Avalanche's clearance sale that my wife will play.
Hey Ed, is that the SS GD marching band counter?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2010, 07:46:29 PM
Hey Ed, is that the SS GD marching band counter?
The Imperial Guard.
From the
La Bataille de Ligny game.
The geeklist over at Boardgamegeek inspired it:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50894/wargames-before-we-deploy-the-infantry-well-send-i
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 19, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
Dammit, you faggits have gotten me wanting to order more games. ACK
How large would you say your collection is?
Quote from: Delirium on January 21, 2010, 04:11:50 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 19, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
Dammit, you faggits have gotten me wanting to order more games. ACK
How large would you say your collection is?
I'd say around 75.~ 100 if you count old magazine games I didn't sell off back in the 90's.
A respectable sum, Sir.
It would have been much larger if I didn't sell off a bunch to make house payments in the mid 90's. Needs must when the devil drives.
And the late 90's-early '00's sell off when I discovered e-bay. 70 bucks for a punched copy of the Gamers' Afrika? 100 bucks for Nato, Nukes and Nazi's? SOLD! That part was pure greed. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 21, 2010, 03:00:49 PM
It would have been much larger if I didn't sell off a bunch to make house payments in the mid 90's. Needs must when the devil drives.
And the late 90's-early '00's sell off when I discovered e-bay. 70 bucks for a punched copy of the Gamers' Afrika? 100 bucks for Nato, Nukes and Nazi's? SOLD! That part was pure greed. :blush:
Greed is g... oh fuck it, you suck.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 21, 2010, 03:00:49 PM
And the late 90's-early '00's sell off when I discovered e-bay.
Yeah, my collection grew exponentially when I discovered eBay. Not only did I buy the games I always wanted, combined with my competitive nature of I WILL NOT LOSE, bids were a bit crazy. I don't like to lose, whether it's fucking Candyland or an eBay bid.
My bidding style is bid once and ignore it until the auction is over. :D
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 24, 2010, 11:13:46 AM
My bidding style is bid once and ignore it until the auction is over. :D
Mine is too, but using the nuclear option.
Bidding is currently at $4. Your current bid is $145. Is this correct? YES FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE
Anyone (Berk/Habs) tried Twilight in the East? I'm in the WW1 mood but I've seen differing opinions to say the least about this one...
Speaking of ebay...there is a mint copy of This Hallowed Ground up for sale right now...
And Liberte as well!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170435710620&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170435700787&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
Quote from: Delirium on January 25, 2010, 08:12:59 AM
Anyone (Berk/Habs) tried Twilight in the East? I'm in the WW1 mood but I've seen differing opinions to say the least about this one...
That's strange; what differing opinions have you seen of it? The only things I've heard have been universally positive, that the game's clean, well-made, that the rules work out of the box and have minimal errata and that it is, most importantly,
fun.
Quote from: Berkut on January 25, 2010, 09:30:46 AM
And Liberte as well!
Told you you'd make money off that.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 25, 2010, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 25, 2010, 09:30:46 AM
And Liberte as well!
Told you you'd make money off that.
Yeah, that is a no-brainer.
I am worried about THG though - I am really hoping it goes for at least $200. Only 1 bid (for the min of course) but 14 people are watching it.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 25, 2010, 10:51:45 AMThat's strange; what differing opinions have you seen of it? The only things I've heard have been universally positive, that the game's clean, well-made, that the rules work out of the box and have minimal errata and that it is, most importantly, fun.
Internationally almost only positive but I know some guys (hardcore gamers) in Stockholm played it over almost a year and some qualms with it, mainly that the rules were unnecessarily complicated for what they tried to achieve, in particular that each combat took some amount of time even to administer single step losses.
But as you say there are lot of positive vibes so I'm working to get my hands on a reduced price copy.
Speaking of EBay...
In cleaning out the basement on Sunday I came across my rather extensive set of Illuminati: New World Order cards. I'm positive I have every one of the cards from the original set, plus several unique German cards, and I had most of th cards from the expansion.
Do you think that kind of stuff would sell? I know they don't make INWO anymore, so people probably don't play it, but still...
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 12:13:39 PM
Do you think that kind of stuff would sell? I know they don't make INWO anymore, so people probably don't play it, but still...
Yeah, but probably not for a lot. Go to ebay and search to see how comparable auctions are running:
http://bit.ly/66yazL
Speaking of eBay... came across this geeklist on BGG: http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/9600/games-worth-gold-they-easily-sell-for-about-s100/page/1 about games that have gone from some good dollar amounts...
List Item # 80 is "Trafalgar", a 1968 title self-published, which this thread says went for $1,035.00 on eBay. http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/284353/the-mighty-trafalgar-s1035-on-ebay Yikes!
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And Liberte as well!
Told you you'd make money off that.
Yeah, that is a no-brainer.
Is it because it is good, or because it has a horde of devoted players ? I am tempted to pick it up at the local game store.
It's not bad, nothing earth shattering and the victory conditions are nicely funky. I prefer playing where you can draw or play two single block cards on your turn, it keeps the card display from clogging with garbage and makes for more interesting choices on each person's turn.
Quote from: Delirium on January 25, 2010, 08:12:59 AM
Anyone (Berk/Habs) tried Twilight in the East? I'm in the WW1 mood but I've seen differing opinions to say the least about this one...
Read the BoardGameGeek thread on that one; it's an interesting critique...sort of a positive negative one...and decide for yourself.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/432997/a-negative-review-of-1914-twilight-in-the-east
I have it; haven't played it of course(duh), but if it's monster games you want on the WW1 Eastern Front, this is the one. Shitload of off-map counter and chart management, though.
Yeah. I don't know, it might be too heavy but East Front WW1 just feels so 2010. :Canuck:
Just bought Twilight in the East, but it won't be delivered for a few weeks.
My next game I just got to have is The Killing Ground, but people seem generally reluctant to give up their copies...
Quote from: Delirium on January 29, 2010, 04:47:22 PM
My next game I just got to have is The Killing Ground, but people seem generally reluctant to give up their copies...
I'd taunt you with my copy, but that would be cruel.
Quote from: Delirium on January 29, 2010, 04:47:22 PM
My next game I just got to have is The Killing Ground, but people seem generally reluctant to give up their copies...
The Battle for Normandy is probably better. Not as pretty, though.
Quote from: Habbaku on January 29, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
The Battle for Normandy is probably better. Not as pretty, though.
If by better you mean more playable, probably. And definitely not as pretty.
Quote from: PRC on January 25, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
List Item # 80 is "Trafalgar", a 1968 title self-published, which this thread says went for $1,035.00 on eBay. http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/284353/the-mighty-trafalgar-s1035-on-ebay Yikes!
I owned that game at one time. It was actually a pretty good game.
I recently placed a P500 order for the Here I Stand reprint. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on February 02, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
I recently placed a P500 order for the Here I Stand reprint. :cool:
You're welcome to join the next Languish game when that inevitably comes to being. :)
Quote from: Habbaku on February 02, 2010, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 02, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
I recently placed a P500 order for the Here I Stand reprint. :cool:
You're welcome to join the next Languish game when that inevitably comes to being. :)
Which should be, like, soon, if you don't start that goddamn' RoR game! :mad:
Aight. My usual M.O. is to try to learn a game solitaire first, so I don't get my ass kicked too badly. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on February 03, 2010, 08:25:39 AM
Aight. My usual M.O. is to try to learn a game solitaire first, so I don't get my ass kicked too badly. :blush:
You cant really learn Here I Stand alone, dude.
Quote from: Tamas on February 03, 2010, 08:32:28 AM
You cant really learn Here I Stand alone, dude.
I'm talking about the rules and shit, not the strategy.
String them along Cal. Then don't play with them.
Easiest way to learn is to just jump into a game.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 02, 2010, 06:40:11 PMYou're welcome to join the next Languish game when that inevitably comes to being. :)
As long as you don't play Turkey. Or Habsburgs. Or...eh.
I'm fine playing anyone but the English, honestly.
:bowler:
Did a trial session with Twilight in the East. Goddammit, that's a game for hardcore :nerd:. Chances are I'll never have the patience to play it, but it looks so good I'm happy just to own it.
Quote from: Delirium on February 07, 2010, 04:39:27 AM
Did a trial session with Twilight in the East. Goddammit, that's a game for hardcore :nerd:. Chances are I'll never have the patience to play it, but it looks so good I'm happy just to own it.
Yes, it's a keeper, if only to say that you now own the largest WW1 east-front game since, well, the east front.
:perv:
Quote from: Berkut on February 03, 2010, 09:35:11 AM
Easiest way to learn is to just jump into a game.
Agree. That's how I learned that Napoleonic game.
I want my goddamn packages.
Which should I pick ?
Richard III or Republic of Rome ?
Depends on if you have a reliable group or not. If so, RoR is a good buy, otherwise Richard III.
I am tempted to take RoR, as I already have a couple of 2-player games: Wilderness Wars, Hammer of the Scots and Warriors of God. My multiplayer games are more of the euro variety. But I like RIII's theme. Hmmm.
Apparently, the new version of RoR includes solitaire play and a 2-player version. Though I am not holding my breath for actual playability...
If you have time to wait and decide, or are interested, I'll be running an RoR game on Languish starting in a couple of weeks (after I get back from the NBW convention). You're welcome to play and decide for yourself whether it's worth buying.
Habby/Berkut---what's the final verdict on GMT's Battle For Normandy. A keeper?
Berkut implements the chess clock on my moves, so I think he's rather into the game.
I like it, but want to restart our campaign now that I know what I'm doing. :P
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 06:19:52 PM
Berkut implements the chess clock on my moves,
:lol:
Imagine that.
Definitely hilarious considering how he tends to drag his heels on just about every other game we play.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 06:21:31 PM
Definitely hilarious considering how he tends to drag his heels on just about every other game we play.
I think it's the basketball ref in him. He counts off the seconds you're in the key.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 04:40:08 PM
If you have time to wait and decide, or are interested, I'll be running an RoR game on Languish starting in a couple of weeks (after I get back from the NBW convention). You're welcome to play and decide for yourself whether it's worth buying.
So, which day should we circle in our calendars? When do we start the dedicated thread? :lol:
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 06:21:31 PM
Definitely hilarious considering how he tends to drag his heels on just about every other game we play.
Horsehit. The problem is you and Jeff simply don't make a move until someone prods you. and we all signed up for this with the idea that we would be playing quickly, not taking two days to decide how to spend 3 replacement points.
The real problem is that Habs thinks his partner sucks (he does), and his partner doesn't want to play because they think they are losing.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 06:19:52 PM
I like it, but want to restart our campaign now that I know what I'm doing. :P
Then just say so.
Any of you guys have any experience with GMT's "Combat Commander" series? I want opinions.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2010, 10:46:36 PM
Any of you guys have any experience with GMT's "Combat Commander" series? I want opinions.
I like it - it is pretty fun. Very chaotic, which is kind of cool, but it doesn't feel very "real" a lot of the time.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2010, 10:46:36 PM
Any of you guys have any experience with GMT's "Combat Commander" series? I want opinions.
I recommend CC : Pacific over the earlier iterations. More fun to be had, I think, as the action builds up a lot faster and there are more "neat" things in the decks.
Quote from: Berkut on February 11, 2010, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 10, 2010, 06:19:52 PM
I like it, but want to restart our campaign now that I know what I'm doing. :P
Then just say so.
Burdett wouldn't play any more if we started over and you know it.
Only played CC:E but the chaos is a lot of fun once you get used to it.
Quote from: Delirium on January 29, 2010, 04:47:22 PM
Just bought Twilight in the East, but it won't be delivered for a few weeks.
My next game I just got to have is The Killing Ground, but people seem generally reluctant to give up their copies...
You should have gotten March to Victory/Over There and played WWI in the West instead. Of course, I'm biased on that, and MtV is out-of-print, so you'd have to get a copy on e-bay or something. OTOH, OT is playable without MtV, so it's still a good buy even if you can't get MtV. And you get the campaigns in Africa and Pershing Expedition, too.
Is that the insanely detailed WW1 game that makes Twilight in the East look like Snakes and Ladders?
Quote from: Delirium on February 14, 2010, 04:20:11 AM
Is that the insanely detailed WW1 game that makes Twilight in the East look like Snakes and Ladders?
Yes. MTV/OT is standard Europa fare; the counter density is so thick, you can actually see soldiers going over the top if you look closely enough. There's more offmap charts than CENTCOM uses, and I think Beglium is 1:1 scale.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 14, 2010, 08:41:53 AM
Quote from: Delirium on February 14, 2010, 04:20:11 AM
Is that the insanely detailed WW1 game that makes Twilight in the East look like Snakes and Ladders?
Yes. MTV/OT is standard Europa fare; the counter density is so thick, you can actually see soldiers going over the top if you look closely enough. There's more offmap charts than CENTCOM uses, and I think Beglium is 1:1 scale.
Lol. Belgium is actually at 16 miles to the hex, just like the rest of the European maps. (The non-European maps are at 64 miles to the hex.)
I don't actually ave Twilight in the East, so I can't make a direct comparison, but my impression is that The Great War series (which so far is just MtV/OT) overall is more complex, though basic combat resolution is more straightforward than in Twilight in the East. Combat in TGW series has tons of modifiers, but except for the artillery rules, 90% of the time, the only ones you have to deal with are the ones for terrain, fortifications, and supply, which is pretty standard wargame stuff. Well, national will, too, but that only changes occasionally, so it's not that big a factor. Most of the complexity is in the production and replacement systems, and there's a simplified production system that I'd recommend if you're playing one of the scenarios and not the full war. And you can play the full war in the West with the MtV/OT package if you want, and it doesn't necessarily end in 1918--there are hypothetical OBs to play past then if the Central Powers haven't collapsed yet (though of course, it's possible that they'll collapse earlier, or even win in 1914 by taking out France).
The advanced air rules are pretty complex (basically Europa air rules, but
more detailed), but there are very few air units until late in the game, so you can kind of ease into them, and they're optional anyway--the basic air rules are pretty simple.
There's a 3-tiered naval system. The basic system is really simple; it doesn't use any counters and just gives the Allies some transport capacity and a little bit of naval gunfire support. The intermediate naval game uses counters to represent groups of ships, and is fairly complex, though if the players are smart, the High Seas Fleet will just stay in harbor and the Allies will keep everything except their transports and escorts on patrol/dedicated reastion in case the Germans sortie. (A daring and very lucky German player can really screw up the British by coming out to fight and beating the Royal Navy, but it's a huge gamble.) The advanced naval rules go to individual ship counters for captial ships, but it's still in design and will be an expansion (and propbably the last thing releases in the series, or close to it).
Beyond that, there's rules for
everything. If it played a part in WWI, even marginally, it's probably in the game. Includiing, but not limited to: cavalry charges (usually a bad idea even in 1914, and almost always a really bad idea by 1918), gas warfare, engineering and trenches (d'uh), irregular units and guerilla warfare (mostly restircted to Africa), leadership, early tank warfare, zepplins, observation balloons, etc.
I have a friend who's been telling me about a really complex game he's involved in, playing the Caporetto scenario. I think that may be it...
There
Quote from: Delirium on February 14, 2010, 12:12:43 PM
I have a friend who's been telling me about a really complex game he's involved in, playing the Caporetto scenario. I think that may be it...
There is a Caporetto scenario, so that's likely.
The Italian secnarios are good, especially if space is a concern, because they can be played on one map.
The series rules are available for free download from the the HMS/GRD website (http://www.hmsgrd.com/download_page.html (http://www.hmsgrd.com/download_page.html)) if you're interested. The OB's, charts, and game-specific rules aren't available on-line, but the series rules should give you a good general idea what the game is like if you're interested.
Just ordered Ici, C'est la France!
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29379/ici-cest-la-france-the-algerian-war-of-independenc
The Ali-la-Pointe counter closed the deal. (but where is petit Omar)?
If your looking for players online, there is an ongoing game in the French Village.
Great extended preview of Spearpoint 1943 coming out soon.
http://www.frontlinegeneral.com/FG_News_Jan_10.pdf
Met this guy at last year's Historicon. Sharp dude. Works as a consultant for DoD, does this stuff in his spare time.
Spear time?
Speer :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 17, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
Just ordered Ici, C'est la France!
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29379/ici-cest-la-france-the-algerian-war-of-independenc
The Ali-la-Pointe counter closed the deal. (but where is petit Omar)?
CB box and living rules online? :mmm: Can I: PBEM this?
Quote from: Tamas on February 18, 2010, 02:39:58 AM
CB box and living rules online? :mmm: Can I: PBEM this?
If you don't mind a leisurely pace, I'll give it a shot once the game arrives.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 18, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 18, 2010, 02:39:58 AM
CB box and living rules online? :mmm: Can I: PBEM this?
If you don't mind a leisurely pace, I'll give it a shot once the game arrives.
Ok :)
Hey Board gaming nerds of Languish
Any input on http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22604/the-halls-of-montezuma (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22604/the-halls-of-montezuma) would be appreciated.
I played Avalon Hill's 1979 version of Dune this weekend. Damn fine game, but very grinding. Ended up the second game of the session with a splitting headache.
Quote from: The Larch on February 22, 2010, 06:46:35 AM
I played Avalon Hill's 1979 version of Dune this weekend. Damn fine game, but very grinding. Ended up the second game of the session with a splitting headache.
Ah, the wargame headache. I hate those.
COA's Fires of Midway is complete; playtesting is wrapped up. Placement on the production table is next.
I think you guys will get a kick out of it when it comes out.
Nice, did you: playtest it.
Quote from: katmai on February 19, 2010, 12:56:21 AM
Hey Board gaming nerds of Languish
Any input on http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22604/the-halls-of-montezuma (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22604/the-halls-of-montezuma) would be appreciated.
You rang?
Sorry, haven't played it, only seen it laid out, it looks good, but it's all I can say.
I just ordered Republic of Rome and should have a copy later in the week. Habs if you're still going to run a pbem game and the players aren't maxed I'd love to give it a go.
Ok need some more advice about board games. The boys - now 13 and almost 11 - want to go to the boardgame shop and pick up a new game(s).
The board games we currently play most often are Settlers of Catan, Carcassone and Age of Empires III. Also, we have a nice big room downstairs to devote to gaming so keeping games out between play sessions wont be a problem.
All your suggestions are welcome.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
Ok need some more advice about board games. The boys - now 13 and almost 11 - want to go to the boardgame shop and pick up a new game(s).
The board games we currently play most often are Settlers of Catan, Carcassone and Age of Empires III. Also, we have a nice big room downstairs to devote to gaming so keeping games out between play sessions wont be a problem.
All your suggestions are welcome.
If they're playing Age of Empires III they're ready for pretty much anything. What do they enjoy the most?
If they're really into Carcassone and Settlers then i'd suggest more games like that... Agricola (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/31260/agricola), Stone Age (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/34635/stone-age), Smallworld (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40692/small-world). If they're more into Age of Empires then i'd suggest Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25613/through-the-ages-a-story-of-civilization) which is pretty good fun. The full game clocks in around 4 hours. Other options in that vein could be Imperial (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24181/imperial) or Twilight Struggle (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12333/twilight-struggle).
Quote from: PRC on March 01, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
Ok need some more advice about board games. The boys - now 13 and almost 11 - want to go to the boardgame shop and pick up a new game(s).
The board games we currently play most often are Settlers of Catan, Carcassone and Age of Empires III. Also, we have a nice big room downstairs to devote to gaming so keeping games out between play sessions wont be a problem.
All your suggestions are welcome.
If they're playing Age of Empires III they're ready for pretty much anything. What do they enjoy the most?
If they're really into Carcassone and Settlers then i'd suggest more games like that... Agricola (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/31260/agricola), Stone Age (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/34635/stone-age), Smallworld (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40692/small-world). If they're more into Age of Empires then i'd suggest Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25613/through-the-ages-a-story-of-civilization) which is pretty good fun. The full game clocks in around 4 hours. Other options in that vein could be Imperial (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24181/imperial) or Twilight Struggle (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12333/twilight-struggle).
Agricola is great, but may be a bit too complex, especially for the younger one. It has the positive side in that it can be played by varying numbers of people, from 3 to 5, without it loosing much in the way of playability.
I'd try Puerto Rico (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3076/puerto-rico) or Ticket to Ride (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9209/ticket-to-ride) first.
I agree with Small World and Through the Ages. Imperial is more of a stock market game than a wargame, it could be disappointing.
Others I'd recommend:
Race for the Galaxy (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28143/race-for-the-galaxy) - This can be a bear to get into by reading the rules, but it's well worth it. Here's (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/375249/video-a-rules-tutorial-for-rftg) a video tutorial that should help out a lot.
Tales of the Arabian Nights (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/34119/tales-of-the-arabian-nights) - Great storytelling game, a bridge between full-fledged rpgs and boardgames. Works very well with 2 or 3, with more it can drag.
Quote from: frunk on March 01, 2010, 07:02:52 PM
Race for the Galaxy (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28143/race-for-the-galaxy) - This can be a bear to get into by reading the rules, but it's well worth it.
As I understand it, Race and Puerto Rico have very similar rules, so if you get through one you might be able to switch to the other for a different flavor experience.
Here is a great little 1 Player vs. AI program of Race for the Galaxy that includes options for using both expansions. It's a pretty fun: http://www.keldon.net/rftg/
Quote from: ulmont on March 01, 2010, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: frunk on March 01, 2010, 07:02:52 PM
Race for the Galaxy (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28143/race-for-the-galaxy) - This can be a bear to get into by reading the rules, but it's well worth it.
As I understand it, Race and Puerto Rico have very similar rules, so if you get through one you might be able to switch to the other for a different flavor experience.
It is close, and will help. What helps even more is San Juan, which is halfway in between the two.
You pick roles like in Puerto Rico except in RftG everyone can potentially pick the same role. It's easy enough once you've played a few times... I found the hardest part of learning Race for the Galaxy is understanding all the little symbols on the cards.
Quote from: PRC on March 01, 2010, 09:01:10 PM
You pick roles like in Puerto Rico except in RftG everyone can potentially pick the same role. It's easy enough once you've played a few times... I found the hardest part of learning Race for the Galaxy is understanding all the little symbols on the cards.
Yeah. There's a Race server here:
http://genie.game-host.org/main.htm
It has a text mode that explains the cards in text rather than the symbols, quite useful.
Fuck that eurofamilygerman bullshit.
They're ready to cut their teeth on Tide of Iron
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22825/tide-of-iron
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
Fuck that eurofamilygerman bullshit.
They're ready to cut their teeth on Tide of Iron
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22825/tide-of-iron
Yeah, a whole life of buying games and never playing them with anyone is ahead of them, and you shouldn't keep them from it!
:P
Quote from: The Larch on March 02, 2010, 04:44:23 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
Fuck that eurofamilygerman bullshit.
They're ready to cut their teeth on Tide of Iron
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22825/tide-of-iron
Yeah, a whole life of buying games and never playing them with anyone is ahead of them, and you shouldn't keep them from it!
:P
Blah, blah, blah. Don't make me get Marty to tackle you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2010, 06:54:35 AM
Quote from: The Larch on March 02, 2010, 04:44:23 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
Fuck that eurofamilygerman bullshit.
They're ready to cut their teeth on Tide of Iron
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22825/tide-of-iron
Yeah, a whole life of buying games and never playing them with anyone is ahead of them, and you shouldn't keep them from it!
:P
Blah, blah, blah. Don't make me get Marty to tackle you.
Face it, German games have a clear advantage against traditional wargames: You can actually get other people to play them. :P
Quote from: The Larch on March 02, 2010, 07:55:47 AMFace it, German games have a clear advantage against traditional wargames: You can actually get people who aren't real gamers to play them. :P
I fixed your post for you.
I'm with Money here. Not that many of the suggestions aren't well and good, but I think you limit yourselves to just the old wooden block games. I know a guy who plays Conflict of Heroes and Wings of War ceaselessly with his sons.
Quote from: Delirium on March 02, 2010, 08:09:54 AM
Quote from: The Larch on March 02, 2010, 07:55:47 AMFace it, German games have a clear advantage against traditional wargames: You can actually get people who aren't real gamers to play them. :P
I fixed your post for you.
I'm with Money here. Not that many of the suggestions aren't well and good, but I think you limit yourselves to just the old wooden block games. I know a guy who plays Conflict of Heroes and Wings of War ceaselessly with his sons.
The bottom line is that to play games you need other people. Hard core grognards are few and far between, and largely speaking a dying breed. My experience in my gaming group is that you can only get 3-4 committed people to play a wargame (World in Flames is our drug of choice in that case), thus you need to trick or fool new people almost every time, which normally don't come back because the game is too complex, and the logistics for playing are considerable, mainly regarding commitments for playing time. A German game has the considerable advantages of being able to gather more than enough people at almost any given time.
Why should I care if someone is a "real gamer" as long as they are playing games that aren't Monopoly or Life?
There's a lot of different games out there, and I enjoy a number of them. I've faded out of the harder core wargames partly due to a lack of interest, being tired of dealing with fiddly rules that make me wonder if I've played the last 4 hours right or not. I think I've lost the desire for simulation at that level as a gaming goal. To me it's more about interesting dynamics between the game and the players. With that as a goal wargames are a bigger timesink than sitting down for an easier to learn but still rich game.
I find I can occasionally goad friends into playing Arkham Horror, but them not being versed in the Lovecraftian lore makes them often go, "WTF is this stuff??"
Quote from: Syt on March 02, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
I find I can occasionally goad friends into playing Arkham Horror, but them not being versed in the Lovecraftian lore makes them often go, "WTF is this stuff??"
In our gaming group "Ticket to Ride" is the most successful game amongst the light gamer demographic, most importantly among the gamer-girlfriend subsector. A sample dialogue could go like this:
Gamer A: "What if we play some boardgame?"
Gamer B: "Sweet, which one can we play?"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "You're going to start yet another game? I thought we would be home by now!"
Gamer B: "Don't worry dear, it'll be just a short game"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Yeah, you said that last weekend and we ended up going home at 3 in the morning! No way you're staying this time!"
Gamer A: "We can play Ticket to Ride..."
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Oooh, may I join?"
I'm confused, who suggested World in Flames and the other hard core wargames? :huh:
Quote from: Delirium on March 02, 2010, 12:07:39 PM
I'm confused, who suggested World in Flames and the other hard core wargames? :huh:
I only mentioned it because it's the wargame of choice in our group. There have been talks of a Fatal Alliances, but the recruiting pitch is not working too well.
Tick
Quote from: The Larch on March 02, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
In our gaming group "Ticket to Ride" is the most successful game amongst the light gamer demographic, most importantly among the gamer-girlfriend subsector. A sample dialogue could go like this:
Gamer A: "What if we play some boardgame?"
Gamer B: "Sweet, which one can we play?"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "You're going to start yet another game? I thought we would be home by now!"
Gamer B: "Don't worry dear, it'll be just a short game"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Yeah, you said that last weekend and we ended up going home at 3 in the morning! No way you're staying this time!"
Gamer A: "We can play Ticket to Ride..."
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Oooh, may I join?"
Ticket to Ride is good fun, a great intro game. I'd suggest going for the Europe map (adds a few game elements - tunnels & stations) or if you think you'll have a small group 2-3 then the Scandavian map. Avoid Swiss map at all costs.
American map ftw.
My girlfriend also likes Ticket to Ride. Can't get her to play Memoir 44.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 02, 2010, 12:40:39 PM
American map ftw.
My girlfriend also likes Ticket to Ride. Can't get her to play Memoir 44.
The America map is good... it just doesn't have those extra features that are added to the game with the Euro map.
Quote from: PRC on March 02, 2010, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 02, 2010, 12:40:39 PM
American map ftw.
My girlfriend also likes Ticket to Ride. Can't get her to play Memoir 44.
The America map is good... it just doesn't have those extra features that are added to the game with the Euro map.
The lack of those features makes the game faster paced and more cutthroat in the American map, which for some people is more interesting. The European map is mellower in that aspect, but also more sophisticated, as you have more ways to achieve your goals.
Going to have to try the European map then. I didn't know the rules were different, I just thought it was a different map.
I gave a friend Munchkin for birthday, because he always wanted something RPGish, but not too heavy. Haven't had time to play with him yet, but he and other friends seems to love it.
Apparently you can play Ticket to Ride online.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 02, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
Going to have to try the European map then. I didn't know the rules were different, I just thought it was a different map.
It¡s been a while since I played the American map, but I have the European one fresh in my mind. IIRC, there are three main differences:
1) Ferries: In order to build some routes that cross the sea (Britain - Continental Europe; Around Scandinavia; Greece - Turkey and so on), you may need to use a locomotive.
2) Tunnels: In order to cross mountains or difficult terrain, you may need to spend aditional cards to build a route.
3) Stations: You may place stations in certain cities, allowing you to use another player's route in order to win your cards.
Quote from: Syt on March 02, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
I gave a friend Munchkin for birthday, because he always wanted something RPGish, but not too heavy. Haven't had time to play with him yet, but he and other friends seems to love it.
Munchkin (and all its variants) is great fun, but may get over used too soon. It's better to play it with one or two suplements, IMO.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 02, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
Apparently you can play Ticket to Ride online.
:shifty:
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 02, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
Apparently you can play Ticket to Ride online.
You can play through Boardgamegeek.com or Day's of Wonders website. I think you have to register that you own the game (or at least any Day's of Wonder game - they come with codes on the instruction books).
You can also play online (non-pbem) Settlers of Catan (with the expansions Cities & Knights or Seafarers) and Carcassone (with a couple expansions) at games.asobrain.com - though they've called them Xplorers and Toulouse for copyright issues.
Then theres all the ones on xbox live (Catan, Carcassone, Panzer General AA, ticket to ride, a few others.)
Thanks for all the suggestions. I could be we end up purchasing more then one. :cool:
I happened to be in the store so I bought Runewars. In the best FFG tradition it's an enormous box that is almost completely empty.
:yes: I wargamed with a friend of mine on Saturday and he had it over there. I wanted to take a look, so I went to take it off his shelf and was rather amused to find that it weighed next to nothing.
I'll be playing it, hypothetically, this Saturday. Looks like fun.
That was the nice thing about Twilight Imperium.
You could not complain that you didn't get anything for your $80.
of course not.
You got space cats, miu.
Miu Miu
Washington's War is "out for delivery". Go Big Brown Truck!
Quote from: Habbaku on March 08, 2010, 05:45:07 PM
:yes: I wargamed with a friend of mine on Saturday and he had it over there. I wanted to take a look, so I went to take it off his shelf and was rather amused to find that it weighed next to nothing.
I'll be playing it, hypothetically, this Saturday. Looks like fun.
I like how FFG have researched: dial technology. And will use them in every game now.
Today I got the Game of Thrones LCG Core Set. Me and my buddies are eager to play.
FFG is going to be doing a "Battlelore" game on Westeros. Although judging from the QA, it isn't really going to be based on Battlelore at all, really.
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1121
Some pretty amusing questions, actually.
:rolleyes:
-We are releasing a BattleLore game.
-Does it have anything at all to do with BattleLore?
-No.
Quote from: The Brain on March 10, 2010, 02:25:43 PM
:rolleyes:
-We are releasing a BattleLore game.
-Does it have anything at all to do with BattleLore?
-No.
Indeed, although I am glad they are not just doing a BL expansion with some Westeros figures/scenarios.
Quote from: The Brain on March 10, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
Today I got the Game of Thrones LCG Core Set. Me and my buddies are eager to play.
I played that not too long ago. I had fun, though I am biased towards liking any game that has mechanics similar to Magic : The Gathering (which this does). I think it'd be more fun with the full complement of four, however.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 10, 2010, 02:40:36 PM
though I am biased towards liking any game that has mechanics similar to Magic : The Gathering (which this does).
That's all well and good but ghey CCG talk, just like ghey Euro-Germanic pacifist game talk, doesn't belong in this thread.
My groups' take when we set up "Ticket to Ride":
- "How do we screw other players?"
Sums up well the general mindset. One of the reasons why half the people won't play Arkham Horror: "What do you mean, we
cooperate?"
Quote from: The Larch
Gamer A: "What if we play some boardgame?"
Gamer B: "Sweet, which one can we play?"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "You're going to start yet another game? I thought we would be home by now!"
Gamer B: "Don't worry dear, it'll be just a short game"
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Yeah, you said that last weekend and we ended up going home at 3 in the morning! No way you're staying this time!"
Gamer A: "We can play Ticket to Ride..."
Gamer B's girlfriend: "Oooh, may I join?"
:D
Things are a problem when some players are in the "boyfriend/girlfriend" phase.
It kinda goes like this:
Me: "Your girlfriend is attacking you"
Gamer A: "That's ok".
Me: "Now she's attacking ME! I'll give you a good deal, help me out"
Gamer A: "I'll pass"
Me: "I repelled her. Now she's eating YOU alive! Defend yourself better!"
Gamer A: "Huh... fate is against me"
Things usually work MUCH better when couples are already married. Husbands and wives fight each other fiercely without problems.
German games are quite good. Loved "Imperial" and "Imperial2030" (but changed the wooden pieces for better plastic minis). I found it showed well how International Bankers control nations and create conflict just for profit.
(I won't be mean to the Germans and say that the players could easily be said to be representing Jewish bankers).
"Funkenschlag" was also good, mostly because you could screw other players by blocking their access to cities.
Twilight Imperium is a great game that gets everyones' eye. But get the expansion to fix the "Imperial" card. I highly recommend it.
Grand strategy wargames are pretty much disliked by women, but I think kids can handle them from ages 14 and onwards.
I suppose what is important is to know if one wants his kids to learn to cooperate with others or instead to destroy them.
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Quote from: The Larch on March 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Would love to be a part of the game if possible - just got my copy last week. I hate the Faction Vote tuckboxes...
I just got my copy of NES' Overlord from overseas and I got hold of a Killing Ground copy as well (I had to find and buy a Space Hulk copy and trade it to a guy in Stockholm).
Other than that, we're just setting up a campaign game of GMT's 1914:Twilight in the East at the club, I'm on the Russian side, we have five or six players and will likely spend a year or so playing once a week.
And I just noticed that GMT will release the remake of Wilderness War pretty soon, I like that.
This is a good game year.
Del, why don't you play ACTS/CDG games? Or do you?
After our last HIS game I set up another game on a Swedish forum. Bad move. People could take four days to make a move and when I complained about it and tried to up the pace I got "hey, I got a life, I'm playing as fast as I can" in response. Turn two took almost two months to complete and that's when I bailed.
Anyway, if the right game with the right people shows up I'm game. Do you have any ideas?
Quote from: Delirium on March 12, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
After our last HIS game I set up another game on a Swedish forum. Bad move. People could take four days to make a move and when I complained about it and tried to up the pace I got "hey, I got a life, I'm playing as fast as I can" in response. Turn two took almost two months to complete and that's when I bailed.
Anyway, if the right game with the right people shows up I'm game. Do you have any ideas?
Well, I am almost always up for another game of PoG/BtB/Wilderness War/TS etc., etc.
Quote from: The Larch on March 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Sorry about the lack of response on this (I think you made a couple of other posts asking, as well). I've been rather preoccupied the past couple of weeks, but am much freer now. I expect to start a recruiting thread Saturday night and we'll go from there.
Quote from: Delirium on March 12, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
I just got my copy of NES' Overlord from overseas and I got hold of a Killing Ground copy as well
Be sure to download the living rules for Killing Ground; there are some changes in there that aren't in Overlord.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 10, 2010, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 10, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
Today I got the Game of Thrones LCG Core Set. Me and my buddies are eager to play.
I played that not too long ago. I had fun, though I am biased towards liking any game that has mechanics similar to Magic : The Gathering (which this does). I think it'd be more fun with the full complement of four, however.
Played it with three people today. We had a blast. I got pwnd but then I'm pretty much an LCG n00b. I played House Lannister against Stark and Baratheon.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: Delirium on March 12, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
I just got my copy of NES' Overlord from overseas and I got hold of a Killing Ground copy as well
Be sure to download the living rules for Killing Ground; there are some changes in there that aren't in Overlord.
You sure? They both say 2.0...?
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 03:34:49 PMWell, I am almost always up for another game of PoG/BtB/Wilderness War/TS etc., etc.
Let me get back to you, Twilight Struggle is a fairly new acquaintance of mine, that would be fun.
Quote from: Berkut on March 09, 2010, 10:29:14 AM
Washington's War is "out for delivery". Go Big Brown Truck!
:mmm:
Quote from: Delirium on March 13, 2010, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: Delirium on March 12, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
I just got my copy of NES' Overlord from overseas and I got hold of a Killing Ground copy as well
Be sure to download the living rules for Killing Ground; there are some changes in there that aren't in Overlord.
You sure? They both say 2.0...?
IIRC, they've incorporated some late errata online. Not that big of a deal, but something to look for.
Hey Habs/anybody else; anyone know anything about Decision Games' Storm of Steel? It looks like Totaler Krieg! for World War 1.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 14, 2010, 09:05:38 AMIIRC, they've incorporated some late errata online. Not that big of a deal, but something to look for.
Okay, I'll check on Consimworld, thanks.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 12, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Sorry about the lack of response on this (I think you made a couple of other posts asking, as well). I've been rather preoccupied the past couple of weeks, but am much freer now. I expect to start a recruiting thread Saturday night and we'll go from there.
No worries, I was just curious on which were your plans about it. :)
Quote from: The Larch on March 15, 2010, 07:24:18 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 12, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Sorry about the lack of response on this (I think you made a couple of other posts asking, as well). I've been rather preoccupied the past couple of weeks, but am much freer now. I expect to start a recruiting thread Saturday night and we'll go from there.
No worries, I was just curious on which were your plans about it. :)
how do you play boardgames online? I've watched several games being played by languishites online but how do you manage a game from a software standpoint (and a content standpoint)?
I bought "Republic of Rome" twenty years ago when it first came out and have never been able to play it. I'd love to try someday.
Quote from: Hansmeister on March 15, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Quote from: The Larch on March 15, 2010, 07:24:18 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 12, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Habs, how are the plans for the "Republic of Rome" game going? Any timeframe in mind?
Sorry about the lack of response on this (I think you made a couple of other posts asking, as well). I've been rather preoccupied the past couple of weeks, but am much freer now. I expect to start a recruiting thread Saturday night and we'll go from there.
No worries, I was just curious on which were your plans about it. :)
how do you play boardgames online? I've watched several games being played by languishites online but how do you manage a game from a software standpoint (and a content standpoint)?
I bought "Republic of Rome" twenty years ago when it first came out and have never been able to play it. I'd love to try someday.
PBEM, I guess. Some games have platforms devoted to them, as well.
Check this for RoR: http://www.yxklyx.com/thecolosseum/ror/ (http://www.yxklyx.com/thecolosseum/ror/)
Hansie:
http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php (http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php)
There's also another tool called CyberBoard: http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/ (http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/)
Quote from: Caliga on March 15, 2010, 05:50:03 PM
Hansie:
http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php (http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php)
There's also another tool called CyberBoard: http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/ (http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/)
there is another one called ZunTsu:
http://www.zuntzu.com/
Never used it though.
Lol : indians
http://www.projo.com/news/content/INDIAN_WAR_GAME_03-15-10_46HKPR8_v28.3a62f30.html
QuoteA new board game that pits 17th-century Colonists against New England's Indian tribes is sparking a 21st-century skirmish between the publisher and Native American leaders.
The game, called King Philip's War, allows players to defeat Colonial or Indian forces in "a momentous example of New England frontier savagery," says Multi-Man Publishing, a military game company in Millersville, Md.
The game features a New England map, dice, tokens and historic figures from the 14-month-long conflict, including King Philip or Metacomet, sachem of the Wampanoag Indian tribe, and Indian fighter and Little Compton resident Benjamin Church.
Publisher Brian Youse says the game mixes military strategy with history — and tells a story that many people outside of New England don't know.
But tribal historians say it is in poor taste and perpetuates stereotypes of Native Americans as savages.
"It clearly demonstrates how — sadly — racism and misconceptions continue to exist in America, even in the 21st century," says Rae Gould, tribal historic preservation officer for the Nipmuc Nation.
"I don't know whether to laugh, cry or be angry," adds John Brown, historic preservation officer for the Narragansett Indian tribe. "The message seems to be, it's still OK to kill Indians."
Colonial players win by gathering points or eliminating King Philip and other Indian leaders. Indian players win by accumulating points or seizing the settlements of Boston and Plymouth.
Game designer John Poniske, who teaches social studies at a Maryland middle school, created the game after reading an article about King Philip in the magazine Military History.
"I immediately saw the gaming potential in the historical situation," says Poniske, who has designed games based on the Vietnam War, the Civil War and the teachings of Jesus.
"The New England tribes were a military force to reckon with, and this conflict destroyed their power base," he says.
"It slowed and, in some cases, stopped Colonial expansion, and more importantly, it set a strong precedent for future relations with Native Americans."
But Paula Peters, a member of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe, says the game "seems to trivialize a very tragic event in our history."
As a boy, King Philip grew up in a world where he was free to practice his beliefs in his ancestral land, says Peters, marketing director for Plimoth Plantation.
But as an adult "he and his people were pushed out."
During an earlier conflict in Mystic, Native women and children were burned in their beds, she says. "It was no game."
But Poniske argues that his game shows that "Indians were fighting for the survival of their culture. I indicate that atrocities were committed on both sides, and I have brought to light something that seems to have been swept under the rug, what I consider to be the horror of the war's outcome — the hunting down of Indians to be shipped to the Caribbean as slaves."
The 11-year-old company publishes a number of military games, including Beyond Valor, Storm over Normandy and Panzerblitz Hill of Death.
The three principals include former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, who also designs games.
The owners hope to garner enough preorders –– 560 at $30 an order –– to publish the game later this year.
In 1675, Indians attacked the town of Swansea, killing several men, women, and children. The Colonists retaliated by attacking area tribes, including Narragansett men, women and children encamped in the Great Swamp.
More than 5,000 people died in the war, more than three-quarters of them Indians. Half of New England's towns were burned or pillaged. Philip was drawn, quartered and beheaded, and some Indian captives were shipped to the Caribbean as slaves.
"That a game would be based on this really bothers me," says Peters. "Would we play a game called The Holocaust?"
Shit, I would.
Ordered. :)
Quote from: Caliga on March 15, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Ordered. :)
The current chatter on CSW about the article is that it probably got the game ~20 preorders.
I was just kidding, but that is indeed a pretty interesting period of history that is rarely or ever covered by wargaming.
The town I used to live in up in Mass. was actually burned down during King Philip's War.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 15, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 15, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Ordered. :)
The current chatter on CSW about the article is that it probably got the game ~20 preorders.
I preordered it, like, almost two months ago. First thing I thought of was, "Massacres against colonists? Coooool!"
That one and Angola.
QuoteBut Paula Peters, a member of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe, says the game "seems to trivialize a very tragic event in our history."
Funny, but his ass ain't got shit to say about the, oh, roughly 2 dozen+ published games on The Little Bighorn.
All WW2 games that do not include the Holocaust are lame and misrepresent history. That being said I think it is reasonable for the Indians to see themselves and their history as totally unique and different and following special rules.
One item worth mentioning is that the tribes being quoted in that article are a bit dubious in terms of recognition IIRC. I don't think any pure blooded Wampanoags are left... and suddenly when Indian gaming became all the rage these folks all magically came out of the woodwork. :)
Boulder Games is shutting down. :(
Quote from: Habbaku on March 16, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Boulder Games is shutting down. :(
They having a sale, or anything?
Quote from: Habbaku on March 15, 2010, 07:03:57 PM
"I immediately saw the gaming potential in the historical situation," says Poniske, who has designed games based on the Vietnam War, the Civil War and the teachings of Jesus.
:lol:
Oh, and the Holocaust game would not be much fun for the Jewish player, would it? "Roll 1d6. On a roll of 1,2,3,4,5, or 6, Jews die." Though I suppose you could have a multiplayer game where the players are all running their own camps, and trying to rack up the highest score before the Russians come.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 16, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Boulder Games is shutting down. :(
I figured that. it seemed like nothing older was ever in stock.
Where will I get my little bag of candy with my orders now?
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 16, 2010, 04:56:06 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 16, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Boulder Games is shutting down. :(
I figured that. it seemed like nothing older was ever in stock.
Where will I get my little bag of candy with my orders now?
Fuck BoulderGames anyway. They ship like old people fuck. I'd get shit from SentryBox in Canada faster.
www.trollandtoad.com is where I order my shit now. They are tha bombz indeed.
Played a friend yesterday using actual blocks in Commands and Colours. Battle of Akragas. I had wonderful luck with my heavy chariots chewing through his flank.
Funny how the cards rule the game. If you don't get any "move center" cards, there is no way you can move the center, ever. :hmm:
Quote from: Lucidor on March 17, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
Played a friend yesterday using actual blocks in Commands and Colours. Battle of Akragas. I had wonderful luck with my heavy chariots chewing through his flank.
Funny how the cards rule the game. If you don't get any "move center" cards, there is no way you can move the center, ever. :hmm:
I'm not a fan of board CDGs. I prefer my wargames to be designed bottom-up or up-bottom. CDG gives me the feeling of a eurogame with a theme slapped on.
I don't have a problem with pure cardgames though.
Quote from: The Brain on March 17, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
Quote from: Lucidor on March 17, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
Played a friend yesterday using actual blocks in Commands and Colours. Battle of Akragas. I had wonderful luck with my heavy chariots chewing through his flank.
Funny how the cards rule the game. If you don't get any "move center" cards, there is no way you can move the center, ever. :hmm:
I'm not a fan of board CDGs. I prefer my wargames to be designed bottom-up or up-bottom. CDG gives me the feeling of a eurogame with a theme slapped on.
I don't have a problem with pure cardgames though.
C&C is gamey, but good, I think. The blocks lure you into thinking it's a wargame, but it's really closer to Robo Rally.
Quote from: Lucidor on March 17, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
Played a friend yesterday using actual blocks in Commands and Colours. Battle of Akragas. I had wonderful luck with my heavy chariots chewing through his flank.
Funny how the cards rule the game. If you don't get any "move center" cards, there is no way you can move the center, ever. :hmm:
I think it states in the rules that you can sacrifice any card to move a single unit anywhere on the board. So even if you have a hand of entirely "move 3 left", you can still use one of those cards to move a single unit in the centre or the right.
Played AGoT LCG again, three people. Amazingly enough I managed to win! I played Baratheon vs Lannister and Targaryen. It was really close and great great fun. I recommend this game.
To celebrate my new gig, I ordered GMT's Battle of Normandy.
Any kind of excuse to buy a game works these days.
I've seen the components laid out, the game does look good, it may be our new project after our 1914:Twiligh in the East campaign.
Quote from: Delirium on March 21, 2010, 02:13:19 PM
I've seen the components laid out, the game does look good, it may be our new project after our 1914:Twiligh in the East campaign.
Berkie and Habs say it's a very playable monster.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 21, 2010, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: Delirium on March 21, 2010, 02:13:19 PM
I've seen the components laid out, the game does look good, it may be our new project after our 1914:Twiligh in the East campaign.
Berkie and Habs say it's a very playable monster.
They are lying. I saw the rules and some of the opening CB moves; it's a stone cold motherfucker.
Quote from: ulmont on March 21, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 21, 2010, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: Delirium on March 21, 2010, 02:13:19 PM
I've seen the components laid out, the game does look good, it may be our new project after our 1914:Twiligh in the East campaign.
Berkie and Habs say it's a very playable monster.
They are lying. I saw the rules and some of the opening CB moves; it's a stone cold motherfucker.
Well, in their defense, they just sorta set it up and play as they go along. Didn't say they follow the rules or anything.
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Quote from: Tamas on February 18, 2010, 02:39:58 AM
CB box and living rules online? :mmm: Can I: PBEM this?
If you don't mind a leisurely pace, I'll give it a shot once the game arrives.
Ok :)
Got it and downloaded the CB Module. Still have to read the rules. Also note I have never used CB before so you will need to be patient with me. :)
Quote from: ulmont on March 21, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
They are lying. I saw the rules and some of the opening CB moves; it's a stone cold motherfucker.
So they're actually playing the game and you've glanced at the rules and a few moves. Hmm, whose opinion could possibly be more valid in this case...
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
I've played it a fair amount. There are some good variants for it, I liked the Age of Empire variant. I find it plays best with a smaller group of 4 than a larger group just because of the time involved.
Quote from: PRC on March 23, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
I've played it a fair amount. There are some good variants for it, I liked the Age of Empire variant. I find it plays best with a smaller group of 4 than a larger group just because of the time involved.
That's a big point. We've always played it with 6 people, and we were only able to finish it once, with somebody leaving mid-way the first game because it was so damn long. How does the "Age of Empire" variant work?
The Age of Empire variant is basically all the objectives for the game are made visible and available from the game start. Gives players some more focus in the early game.
Quote from: PRC on March 23, 2010, 12:22:13 PM
The Age of Empire variant is basically all the objectives for the game are made visible and available from the game start. Gives players some more focus in the early game.
Doesn't that actually take away power to the Imperial role card? BTW, we played with it nerfed to 1 VP only, instead of 2 VPs.
Age of Empire is an official variant and here is the rules direct from the TI3 rule book:
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The victory point system of TI, as written, rewards
players that seek a balance of planning and flexibility.
Some players, however, may desire that the victory
objectives of TI be more predictable (which was the
case in the two previous editions of TI) so that they
may form a more stable long term strategy. This is
accomplished in the following way:
After creating the Public Objective Deck as normal,
start to draw its cards, starting from the top. After
drawing a card, place it face up in the common play
area, creating a straight line of cards starting to the
left. After drawing and placing the "Game Over" card,
if there are any additional cards remaining in the
deck, place those cards back in the box (you will not
need them).
Now you should have a line of Public Objective Cards
somewhere between 7 and 10 cards long with the
"Game Over" card in the rightmost position.
During the game, players may qualify for the victory
points of any of the revealed Objective Cards from
Turn one. No further Public Objective Cards will
enter the game. In this way, players know exactly
which objectives will give them victory points for the
duration of the game.
After the end of the Status Phase of the first game
round, place a Turn token (a glass bead, a thimble, a
quarter, etc.) on the leftmost card. After every Status
Phase is finished, move the Turn token one card to
the right. When the Turn token moves onto the Game
Over card, the game ends immediately, and the player
with the highest number of victory points is the winner
(as described in the core rules). In this way, your
row of Objective Cards also act as a Turn track.
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
Get the expansion with a better card system.
Quote from: The Brain on March 23, 2010, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
Get the expansion with a better card system.
We tried the role cards in our second game, I remain unconvinced as a whole, even if some are indeed better.
OK I'm spent.
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
I think it's a horrendous waste of time. It's Axis and Allies made even more pointless by throwing in a mix of Civilization, Puerto Rico and 20 pounds of plastic. And once the game gets fun and you want to start to use your technology, it's over after 20 minutes. Never again.
Quote from: Delirium on March 23, 2010, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
We have been playing Twilight Imperium (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12493/twilight-imperium-3rd-edition)) for the last couple of weekends, and although I really want to like the game, I must say that it has some serious-ish design flaws. Has somebody else played it?
I think it's a horrendous waste of time. It's Axis and Allies made even more pointless by throwing in a mix of Civilization, Puerto Rico and 20 pounds of plastic. And once the game gets fun and you want to start to use your technology, it's over after 20 minutes. Never again.
Heh, the ones hat shelled the 70€ for it wouldn't like to hear that. :lol:
Finally, something interesting hits GMT's P500. Ordered both of these :
https://www.gmtgames.com/p-307-bloody-april-air-war-over-arras-france-1917.aspx
Bloody April, "Air War Over Arras, 1917."
https://www.gmtgames.com/p-306-next-war-korea.aspx
Next War : Korea, which you can guess the subject matter of.
When is that thing coming out? The one where you play like an officer in Napoleon's army or something like that?
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2010, 04:56:24 PMHeh, the ones hat shelled the 70€ for it wouldn't like to hear that. :lol:
To be fair, I know quite a few people who enjoy the game, but they don't generally like wargames.
Quote from: Tamas on March 24, 2010, 03:20:16 AM
When is that thing coming out? The one where you play like an officer in Napoleon's army or something like that?
According to the guys at Cold Wars, hopefully this summer, but not surprising if it doesn't until the fall.
http://victorypointgames.com/details.php?prodId=119
heh.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 02, 2010, 06:22:12 PM
http://victorypointgames.com/details.php?prodId=119
heh.
:lol:
Pffft, Nuclear War was better.
Is anyone else getting sexed up for Horus Heresy?
http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=98&enmi=Horus%20Heresy
Quote from: chipwich on April 06, 2010, 03:32:54 AM
Is anyone else getting sexed up for Horus Heresy?
http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=98&enmi=Horus%20Heresy
:bleeding: Dunno why writers think purple prose actually sells.
Quote from: chipwich on April 06, 2010, 03:32:54 AM
Is anyone else getting sexed up for Horus Heresy?
http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=98&enmi=Horus%20Heresy
That'll be a big nuh-uh.
found this link that some here may like. enjoy (it's olde lighthearted Soviet boardgames scanned in... descriptions are in Cyrillic.)
http://babs71.livejournal.com/355037.html (http://babs71.livejournal.com/355037.html)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg-fotki.yandex.ru%2Fget%2F3803%2Fbabs71.102%2F0_27885_8f0da339_L.jpg&hash=f0a824d1679f3159cdada0be522d8c05b5323300)
OK, I just got my check for all my personal time from my previous employer, so now I've got a shitload of money to drop on wargames I don't play.
I will update you on the purchases of wargames I won't play in short order.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
OK, I just got my check for all my personal time from my previous employer, so now I've got a shitload of money to drop on wargames I don't play.
I will update you on the purchases of wargames I won't play in short order.
You should buy a few for me :) I won't play them, I promise.
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2010, 04:31:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
OK, I just got my check for all my personal time from my previous employer, so now I've got a shitload of money to drop on wargames I don't play.
I will update you on the purchases of wargames I won't play in short order.
You should buy a few more me :) I won't play them, I promise.
One is quite enough, thank you very much.
Quote from: The Brain on April 17, 2010, 04:47:32 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2010, 04:31:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
OK, I just got my check for all my personal time from my previous employer, so now I've got a shitload of money to drop on wargames I don't play.
I will update you on the purchases of wargames I won't play in short order.
You should buy a few more me :) I won't play them, I promise.
One is quite enough, thank you very much.
:lol: typo fail
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
OK, I just got my check for all my personal time from my previous employer, so now I've got a shitload of money to drop on wargames I don't play.
I will update you on the purchases of wargames I won't play in short order.
Here is a crazy thought.
Save some of that money, and come to WBC for a couple days. Or NBW. Or hell, inaugurate the first Annual CountDeMoney Languish Wargmaing Weekend, and we can come to you.
Actually play some games.
Too much effort.
I really wonder what this game is. It appears to be "Gas the Peasants".
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg405.imageshack.us%2Fimg405%2F8130%2Fgasthepeasants.jpg&hash=b9e210060857a753c3ac59cd71f561cc4d0e2ac2) (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/gasthepeasants.jpg/)
Title reads "Khimicheskaya Voina" which, I guess, means Chemical War(fare).
Russians are big Dead Kennedys fans?
Played Twilight Struggle yesterday for the first time. I really liked it, although knowing the card stack well is essential.
Yeah, TS is a game that is a lot of fun when you have no idea what the cards are, but requires you to know the cards well to play the game well.
Playing it blind those first couple of times is amusing though.
Quote from: Berkut on April 19, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
Yeah, TS is a game that is a lot of fun when you have no idea what the cards are, but requires you to know the cards well to play the game well.
Playing it blind those first couple of times is amusing though.
Hehe, yeah, the way I infected Africa with the red virus was amusing (I played the USSR) and left my buddy, who already played a few times open mouthed at the easiness with which I claimed the continent. Then I pushed the envelope too far by not knowing well the cards and ended up declaring nuclear war by accident after a summit and lost the game accordingly. :blush:
Quote from: The Larch on April 19, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
ended up declaring nuclear war by accident after a summit and lost the game accordingly. :blush:
You mean won?
Quote from: The Brain on April 19, 2010, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 19, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
ended up declaring nuclear war by accident after a summit and lost the game accordingly. :blush:
You mean won?
In TS the player in whose turn nuclear war is declared loses the game, as he's considered to be the one responsible for it.
Anyone played Clash of Monarchs? It any good with two players?
I've played it a good deal and enjoyed it quite a bit. I would say that two players is not ideal, but it is a good game with them. The "best" version of the game is the 3-player version, in my opinion, because it removes the perfect coordination of the Austrians and their Franco-Russian allies while sweeping the somewhat less-playable Anglos into the Prussian player's control.
After four or five games (that admittedly were not completed) I agree with Habs, it's a good game, and probably best with three players.
However, none of us folks here have enjoyed it ftf, I think it's because it's way too complicated for what people expect of a cdg (and somewhat repetitive), but too simple for the effort people want to place in a real wargame. It's an admirable effort with some cool design features but falls short of both marks, I don't think I could find two players down at the club who would be ready to give it another shot.
It may be more suited as a convention game using a one-year scenario though.
Thanks, guys. I'll definitely take a look, but usually complex + best with more than 2 means that I won't be playing it. <_<
What about Maria, or Espana 1936? Any good?
:lol: Maria was designed, at the outset, as a 3-player game, so I don't think you'll be okay with that one.
I can highly recommend Espana 1936, however, as a 2-player game. It's not a heavy simulation but has enough sim-elements to be very fun and catch the flavor of the war. Of course, with both GMT and MMP releasing SCW games in the future, it will probably become outdated as both of them are supposed to be "heavier" treatments.
Is there any interest in a Languish CB game of anything? I have some extra time on my hands.
I would play something. I've not got anything on my plate at the moment other than a few PBEM games of Pursuit of Glory.
Suggestions?
Del, are you thinking something MP, or just a 2 player game?
Me and Habs talked it over, he'll present our findings to you shortly. :smarty:
Quote from: Habbaku on April 26, 2010, 10:18:53 AM
I would play something. I've not got anything on my plate at the moment other than a few PBEM games of Pursuit of Glory.
Suggestions?
What about the "Republic of Rome" game that you mentioned a while ago?
Quote from: The Larch on April 27, 2010, 03:55:23 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 26, 2010, 10:18:53 AM
I would play something. I've not got anything on my plate at the moment other than a few PBEM games of Pursuit of Glory.
Suggestions?
What about the "Republic of Rome" game that you mentioned a while ago?
Yeah, start it already!
Like, on Tuesday when I return from Istanbul.
It's on the backburner for me for the time being. I'll get the drive to want to play it soon enough, I'm confident. Especially since I'm not really playing much these days. Seems like all my PBEM games ended at the same time...Conspiracy!