NYU prof nukes student:
QuoteSent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 7:15:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Brand Strategy Feedback
Prof. Galloway,
I would like to discuss a matter with you that bothered me. Yesterday evening I entered your 6pm Brand Strategy class approximately 1 hour late. As I entered the room, you quickly dismissed me, saying that I would need to leave and come back to the next class. After speaking with several students who are taking your class, they explained that you have a policy stating that students who arrive more than 15 minutes late will not be admitted to class.
As of yesterday evening, I was interested in three different Monday night classes that all occurred simultaneously. In order to decide which class to select, my plan for the evening was to sample all three and see which one I like most. Since I had never taken your class, I was unaware of your class policy. I was disappointed that you dismissed me from class considering (1) there is no way I could have been aware of your policy and (2) considering that it was the first day of evening classes and I arrived 1 hour late (not a few minutes), it was more probable that my tardiness was due to my desire to sample different classes rather than sheer complacency.
I have already registered for another class but I just wanted to be open and provide my opinion on the matter.
Regards,
xxxx
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xxxx
MBA 2010 Candidate
NYU Stern School of Business
xxxx.nyu.edu
xxx-xxx-xxxx
—— Forwarded Message ——-
From: [email protected]
To: "xxxx"
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 9:34:02 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Brand Strategy Feedback
xxxx:
Thanks for the feedback. I, too, would like to offer some feedback.
Just so I've got this straight...you started in one class, left 15-20 minutes into it (stood up, walked out mid-lecture), went to another class (walked in 20 minutes late), left that class (again, presumably, in the middle of the lecture), and then came to my class. At that point (walking in an hour late) I asked you to come to the next class which "bothered" you.
Correct?
You state that, having not taken my class, it would be impossible to know our policy of not allowing people to walk in an hour late. Most risk analysis offers that in the face of substantial uncertainty, you opt for the more conservative path or hedge your bet (e.g., do not show up an hour late until you know the professor has an explicit policy for tolerating disrespectful behavior, check with the TA before class, etc.). I hope the lottery winner that is your recently crowned Monday evening Professor is teaching Judgement and Decision Making or Critical Thinking.
In addition, your logic effectively means you cannot be held accountable for any code of conduct before taking a class. For the record, we also have no stated policy against bursting into show tunes in the middle of class, urinating on desks or taking that revolutionary hair removal system for a spin. However, xxxx, there is a baseline level of decorum (i.e., manners) that we expect of grown men and women who the admissions department have deemed tomorrow's business leaders.
xxxx, let me be more serious for a moment. I do not know you, will not know you and have no real affinity or animosity for you. You are an anonymous student who is now regretting the send button on his laptop. It's with this context I hope you register pause...REAL pause xxxx and take to heart what I am about to tell you:
xxxx, get your shit together.
Getting a good job, working long hours, keeping your skills relevant, navigating the politics of an organization, finding a live/work balance...these are all really hard, xxxx. In contrast, respecting institutions, having manners, demonstrating a level of humility...these are all (relatively) easy. Get the easy stuff right xxxx. In and of themselves they will not make you successful. However, not possessing them will hold you back and you will not achieve your potential which, by virtue of you being admitted to Stern, you must have in spades. It's not too late xxxx...
Again, thanks for the feedback.
Professor Galloway
Young people suck.
I hope the student was sitting when he read this e-mail, because he won't be doing any more sitting in the near future.
15 minute late window? What a softie
What a dickish teacher, all of my teachers ever have had the policy of better late than never.
A: It's more of a meh-down.
B: You shouldn't showcase grumbler's mails to his students like this, they're probably confidential.
Quote from: Syt on March 04, 2010, 11:34:48 AM
B: You shouldn't showcase grumbler's mails to his students like this, they're probably confidential.
:P
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
I thought I was the only one who thought of grumbler when reading that e-mail. The professor is a dick, most assuredly, but it was still a quality smackdown.
LOL recently a professor at a Polish university got under fire for posting the following on the website, together with the exam results:
"To all the 80 people who failed the exam, I wish best of luck, a nice job at KFC and many unforgettable moments in an unemployment office.
If any of you ladies and gentlemen, in connection with the results, intends to hurt themselves, please do it outside of the faculty building, as it's a real bitch to clean blood from the floors and they are slippery enough already."
Depends on the subject area and depth. If it was something like freshman seminar, I probably wouldn't sweat a few minutes of lateness; likely, I'm only missing a roll call. On the other hand, I have classes like mechanics of property transactions, where it's pretty damn essential that right from go, I'm following along with the slew of statutes, doctrines, and explanations of reasoning that go along with practicing law in real estate transactions.
That said, the student is an ass for pulling that kind of stunt. At the core of it, he's still deciding his schedule after the beginning of the semester, and that raises all kinds of red flags to me.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
I'm not that surprised. And I can perfecly understand why more and more teachers are fed up of students who enter colleges thinking these are a diploma mill to breeze through.
Basically came with the change in perception among students, from people who are there to actually learn something worthwhile, i.e. students, to people who pay to acquire a piece of paper that will allow them to work in such and such fields, i.e. customers. And thus yes, of course their opinion is important - else they'll go study elsewhere and bring their money with them.
My teachers used to call them "étudiants mélamines" (melamine students). Because you see them only at the exams, when they come to beg for their courses' notes, or to whine about their B-.
Thus, many students behave like customers in a store in some free market, totally uncaring about the course and the teacher and focusing instead of making it easier to pass with the least effort possible to acquire their diploma. After all, they pay for it right? They are entitled to pass. Who the teacher think he is to flunk them? He is there to provide a service - the course - to allow them to get the damn diploma.
They shop around the courses in the first weeks, to see if they like the teacher and the content of the course (by that I mean, easy enough), and when they finally stay, they pressure the teacher into putting his notes in Powerpoint or printed and available, so they don't need to actually attend the classes, and even passed exams to study the answers. Nowadays, personal notes are sometimes even permitted into exams, which of course includes the notes printed directly from the teacher's PP presentation.
And (from experience) they lash out at assistants for any grade they deem insufficient for their papers that they think is so stellar when in fact it is full of grammatical errors (because they don't actually review their own text, it costs time, so they use automatic correction) and circular rhetoric (because babbling around a subject without getting to the point still gives some points, right?). And our teachers pressure the assistants as well, because they have an average ratio of good grades versus bad grades to respect so that they pass their own internal evaluation.
I took only one such contract as corrector, because I saw very quickly that I was too hard-ass (i.e. a good corrector) to do such a job full of shit, and I tend to punish ignorance rather than reward it. When the work was good and I saw the student made a worthy effort in his or her argument, however, I was very generous with the grades, so it evened out.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
He should be happy to get such a fine life lesson for free.
Quote from: Strix on March 04, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
He should be happy to get such a fine life lesson for free.
That's the problem, it isn't free. The student pay for the service, he is a customer, so I expect a complaint to the college's ombudsman within 48 hours.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 04, 2010, 12:07:50 PM
That said, the student is an ass for pulling that kind of stunt. At the core of it, he's still deciding his schedule after the beginning of the semester, and that raises all kinds of red flags to me.
Some schools encourage or even require their students to do this IIRC. I think Harvard College might actually do this. You have like a week at the beginning of each semester to audit any course you like (that fits a requirement or elective for your program) and then at the end you actually enroll in each course. They call it shopping for class or something like that.
When I was in college you could add classes without the dean's approval up to the 8th week or so. It was pretty common for students to be adding and dropping classes during the first few weeks. For some classes it was impossible of course.
Quote from: Martinus on March 04, 2010, 12:05:33 PM
LOL recently a professor at a Polish university got under fire for posting the following on the website, together with the exam results:
"To all the 80 people who failed the exam, I wish best of luck, a nice job at KFC and many unforgettable moments in an unemployment office.
If any of you ladies and gentlemen, in connection with the results, intends to hurt themselves, please do it outside of the faculty building, as it's a real bitch to clean blood from the floors and they are slippery enough already."
I feel like a class that has 80% of its students fail a test indicates that the professor may not be teaching very well. :hmm:
The professor seems to have way too much time on his hands. More normal behavior by a working person would be to send a short "thank you for your comment" e-mail (or ignore it completely) and then move on.
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 04, 2010, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 04, 2010, 12:05:33 PM
LOL recently a professor at a Polish university got under fire for posting the following on the website, together with the exam results:
"To all the 80 people who failed the exam, I wish best of luck, a nice job at KFC and many unforgettable moments in an unemployment office.
If any of you ladies and gentlemen, in connection with the results, intends to hurt themselves, please do it outside of the faculty building, as it's a real bitch to clean blood from the floors and they are slippery enough already."
I feel like a class that has 80% of its students fail a test indicates that the professor may not be teaching very well. :hmm:
That certainly applies to your math professor. :P
Quote from: DGuller on March 04, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 04, 2010, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 04, 2010, 12:05:33 PM
LOL recently a professor at a Polish university got under fire for posting the following on the website, together with the exam results:
"To all the 80 people who failed the exam, I wish best of luck, a nice job at KFC and many unforgettable moments in an unemployment office.
If any of you ladies and gentlemen, in connection with the results, intends to hurt themselves, please do it outside of the faculty building, as it's a real bitch to clean blood from the floors and they are slippery enough already."
I feel like a class that has 80% of its students fail a test indicates that the professor may not be teaching very well. :hmm:
That certainly applies to your math professor. :P
:lol: YIZZOUCH!
:face:
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
True, and professor is a moron for spending lifespan on such a petty statement to someone who isn't even a student of his.
Student = fail, and prof = epic fail.
QuoteShopping for Classes - Barnard students have a two-week window in which they may attend as many classes as they want before they finalize their schedule with their advisor, called "shopping."
http://collegeprowler.com/barnard-college/inside-scoop/ (http://collegeprowler.com/barnard-college/inside-scoop/)
I know Barnard != NYU (it's like the Radcliffe of Columbia) but I suspect that NYU business school does something similar. This is not to defend the student but rather provide some context into what the student was likely doing here.
Quote from: grumbler on March 04, 2010, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
True, and professor is a moron for spending lifespan on such a petty statement to someone who isn't even a student of his.
Student = fail, and prof = epic fail.
As usual grumbler agrees with me.
Quote from: grumbler on March 04, 2010, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
True, and professor is a moron for spending lifespan on such a petty statement to someone who isn't even a student of his.
Student = fail, and prof = epic fail.
Especially considering how much more his time is worth.
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2010, 01:55:18 PM
Especially considering how much more his time is worth.
Yes, but it sounds like he's the kind of person that enjoys berating others.
Tis similar to grumbler picking apart not only the arguments of those he disagrees with, but their grammar, punctuation, anything he can get his hands on.
grumbler is probably one of the most esteemed and respected posters here both on this board and in his real life. No doubt many young man and woman look up to him and cherish their moments in his class, but Languish is definitely an outlet for him to blow some steam.
Maybe for this professor, berating students that aren't his are his way of chilling out.
Sure, we've got the add/drop period at my college, but in general, our majors are very specific, leaving only room for a couple of options for each elective, and generally, the classes are scheduled so that one class in a department doesn't interfere with another class in the same department or elective classification.
I'm somewhere in the middle of the "obtaining an education vs. buying a certification" debate. I'm in my classes to learn, absolutely, but those classes are expensive, so I'm going to try to keep them germane to my chosen major. That doesn't preclude my gen. ed. courses, of course, since both the college and its overseeing accreditation bureau have decided they're germane to my education, if not to my major; they're a part of the cost of obtaining my degree and provide some extra education as a bonus, so I'm not about to complain about them. I do lean toward, "I'd love to take this elective if I only had money and/or room in my schedule" for a few subjects, though.
Quote from: The Brain on March 04, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 04, 2010, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
True, and professor is a moron for spending lifespan on such a petty statement to someone who isn't even a student of his.
Student = fail, and prof = epic fail.
As usual grumbler agrees with me.
I also agree. :)
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 04, 2010, 02:49:14 PM
Sure, we've got the add/drop period at my college, but in general, our majors are very specific, leaving only room for a couple of options for each elective, and generally, the classes are scheduled so that one class in a department doesn't interfere with another class in the same department or elective classification.
I'm sorry that your college is more like high school?
I think I had one quarter where I'd figured out my final schedule before classes started and that was the quarter I was abroad.
:hmm:
I'm trying to figure out what Bananas post had to do with the topic.
Or is he simply sprouting personal information out there for digestion and pity ? :wacko:
Quote from: Jaron on March 04, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
:hmm:
I'm trying to figure out what Bananas post had to do with the topic.
Or is he simply sprouting personal information out there for digestion and pity ? :wacko:
Option 3: post count and typing practice.
As this post is option 4: self-deprecating humor. :P
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
Young people suck.
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Even worse are MBA graduates who sign all of their emails as:
CountDeMoney, M.B.A.
We had one of those as a saleswoman at RHI, but then she got fired for having a low monthly GM and constantly angering clients with her lack of tact and judgment. :)
Quote from: Caliga on March 04, 2010, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Even worse are MBA graduates who sign all of their emails as:
CountDeMoney, M.B.A.
We had one of those as a saleswoman at RHI, but then she got fired for having a low monthly GM and constantly angering clients with her lack of tact and judgment. :)
She earned it! :homestar:
Whereas J-dawg has never rightfully earned anything.
We also had a guy here who signed his name:
Jaron, P.M.P.
But he got fired for trading stocks at work and running some sort of business on the side.
In fact, it seems like the more initials people list after their name, the shittier they actually are. :hmm:
Quote from: garbon on March 04, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Whereas J-dawg has never rightfully earned anything.
:huh:
What the fuck?
The truth, pass it on.
:lol:
Quote from: Caliga on March 04, 2010, 08:55:11 PM
We also had a guy here who signed his name:
Jaron, P.M.P.
But he got fired for trading stocks at work and running some sort of business on the side.
In fact, it seems like the more initials people list after their name, the shittier they actually are. :hmm:
That's why no one likes the House of Lords. :yes:
As an adjunct at two local unis (one public, one private), I try very hard to make sure that if you do not attend my class regularly or on time you fail the course. I do this not by taking attendance, but by putting important information that I will test on in the first five minutes of class.
This has paid off in students being more timely, and paying attention. I like the cut of this professor's jib. Huzzah, Prof. Galloway. I hope that you did not publish this, since it constitutes a violation of FERPA.
Quote from: Drakken on March 04, 2010, 12:09:12 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 04, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Student is an idiot for thinking anyone at his university gives a god damn shit what his opinions are.
I'm not that surprised. And I can perfecly understand why more and more teachers are fed up of students who enter colleges thinking these are a diploma mill to breeze through.
Basically came with the change in perception among students, from people who are there to actually learn something worthwhile, i.e. students, to people who pay to acquire a piece of paper that will allow them to work in such and such fields, i.e. customers. And thus yes, of course their opinion is important - else they'll go study elsewhere and bring their money with them.
My teachers used to call them "étudiants mélamines" (melamine students). Because you see them only at the exams, when they come to beg for their courses' notes, or to whine about their B-.
Thus, many students behave like customers in a store in some free market, totally uncaring about the course and the teacher and focusing instead of making it easier to pass with the least effort possible to acquire their diploma. After all, they pay for it right? They are entitled to pass. Who the teacher think he is to flunk them? He is there to provide a service - the course - to allow them to get the damn diploma.
They shop around the courses in the first weeks, to see if they like the teacher and the content of the course (by that I mean, easy enough), and when they finally stay, they pressure the teacher into putting his notes in Powerpoint or printed and available, so they don't need to actually attend the classes, and even passed exams to study the answers. Nowadays, personal notes are sometimes even permitted into exams, which of course includes the notes printed directly from the teacher's PP presentation.
And (from experience) they lash out at assistants for any grade they deem insufficient for their papers that they think is so stellar when in fact it is full of grammatical errors (because they don't actually review their own text, it costs time, so they use automatic correction) and circular rhetoric (because babbling around a subject without getting to the point still gives some points, right?). And our teachers pressure the assistants as well, because they have an average ratio of good grades versus bad grades to respect so that they pass their own internal evaluation.
I took only one such contract as corrector, because I saw very quickly that I was too hard-ass (i.e. a good corrector) to do such a job full of shit, and I tend to punish ignorance rather than reward it. When the work was good and I saw the student made a worthy effort in his or her argument, however, I was very generous with the grades, so it evened out.
tl;dr
Quote from: Korea on March 04, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't get it. :hmm:
80 students does not necessarily equal 80% of the class.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 04, 2010, 10:47:46 PM
Quote from: Korea on March 04, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't get it. :hmm:
80 students does not necessarily equal 80% of the class.
Oh, I think I wasn't paying attention.
That was my problem too, until they abruptly brought my error to my, and everyone else's attention. :sleep:
Quote from: Caliga on March 04, 2010, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Even worse are MBA graduates who sign all of their emails as:
CountDeMoney, M.B.A.
We had one of those as a saleswoman at RHI, but then she got fired for having a low monthly GM and constantly angering clients with her lack of tact and judgment. :)
Everyone with a Master's diploma in Austria adds it to their name. Austrians are title crazy, and addressing someone in a business conversation as "Herr Magister [so and so]" is absolutely normal.
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 04, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
:lol:
You know what I realized is sad? We are hardly antagonists these days. We need to fix that. :(
Quote from: Syt on March 04, 2010, 11:52:57 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 04, 2010, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Even worse are MBA graduates who sign all of their emails as:
CountDeMoney, M.B.A.
We had one of those as a saleswoman at RHI, but then she got fired for having a low monthly GM and constantly angering clients with her lack of tact and judgment. :)
Everyone with a Master's diploma in Austria adds it to their name. Austrians are title crazy, and addressing someone in a business conversation as "Herr Magister [so and so]" is absolutely normal.
The medical profession is worse. There are over 90 different associations for credentialing and certification for the nursing profession alone.
"Can I have my MAP on my ID badge?"
"What's an MAP?"
"A Master's in Acupuncture."
"No you may not."The researchers are even worse. Especially Russians.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2010, 01:41:33 AM
The researchers are even worse. Especially Russians.
Tell me a bout it. :lol:
"I'm Prof. Jerkoff from Kazanistan University, and if you don't pay till yesterday I will tell everyone you're a bad person!"
We had to change a whole lot of paperwork recently, because a doctor who had been contracted for a study found himself first in jail because of allegations of bribery (not involving us) and then in a coma.
After five years of working with a whole lot of medical doctors involved in pharma research I have to say I regard them on the same general scum level as lawyers (Languish lawyers excluded).
Quote from: Syt on March 05, 2010, 01:48:20 AM
Tell me a bout it. :lol:
What's funny is, they'll get all bent out of shape over the fact that they're not recognized as MDs, even though they got an MD from Boris University or wherever. Sorry Ivan, you should've gone to a real school.
And besides, they have researcher appointments, not clinical appointments. Just because you're on the other side of campus decapitating rabbits all day to measure how fast they blink post-mortem doesn't mean you can walk around fielding questions from cancer patients.
Russians are such high maintenance assfucks.
Quote from: Syt on March 05, 2010, 01:48:20 AMAfter five years of working with a whole lot of medical doctors involved in pharma research I have to say I regard them on the same general scum level as lawyers (Languish lawyers excluded).
Actually, I'd have to side with the lawyers on that one. Medical faculty are much, much worse.
Quote from: Scipio on March 04, 2010, 10:27:38 PM
As an adjunct at two local unis (one public, one private), I try very hard to make sure that if you do not attend my class regularly or on time you fail the course. I do this not by taking attendance, but by putting important information that I will test on in the first five minutes of class.
This has paid off in students being more timely, and paying attention. I like the cut of this professor's jib. Huzzah, Prof. Galloway. I hope that you did not publish this, since it constitutes a violation of FERPA.
Sounds a little insecure if you ask me. If someone can pass the course without attending, more power to them. Maybe your physical presence just wasn't that important to begin with.
The prof in OP was way too involved. Students don't care...about life lessons or even what they did wrong. They don't care about decorum, they don't care about acting in such as way as to cause a positive reaction. Students believe they are entitled to their crap little whiney-assed worldview that they deserve something. Watch this prof, he is likely cracking and soon will shoot up a tenure meeting.
Quote from: DGuller on March 05, 2010, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: Scipio on March 04, 2010, 10:27:38 PM
As an adjunct at two local unis (one public, one private), I try very hard to make sure that if you do not attend my class regularly or on time you fail the course. I do this not by taking attendance, but by putting important information that I will test on in the first five minutes of class.
This has paid off in students being more timely, and paying attention. I like the cut of this professor's jib. Huzzah, Prof. Galloway. I hope that you did not publish this, since it constitutes a violation of FERPA.
Sounds a little insecure if you ask me. If someone can pass the course without attending, more power to them. Maybe your physical presence just wasn't that important to begin with.
Absolutely. In humanities and social sciences especially, as a student you are basically paying for exams and library access. Most lectures quite frankly are a waste of time.
Quote from: PDH on March 05, 2010, 10:59:35 AM
The prof in OP was way too involved. Students don't care...about life lessons or even what they did wrong. They don't care about decorum, they don't care about acting in such as way as to cause a positive reaction. Students believe they are entitled to their crap little whiney-assed worldview that they deserve something. Watch this prof, he is likely cracking and soon will shoot up a tenure meeting.
Agreed that the prof was cracking. Whatever students may be like at your institution, professors who throw students out of lectures simply for entering the room at the wrong time, especially on the first day of classes, fundamentally misunderstand what they are there for.
I dunno, it's hard to get work done when you have people streaming in through the first half of the class. If it wasn't the first day of class I'd have to side with the prof on this.
Quote from: Maximus on March 05, 2010, 02:29:30 PM
I dunno, it's hard to get work done when you have people streaming in through the first half of the class. If it wasn't the first day of class I'd have to side with the prof on this.
I've never had a problem teaching even with students arriving late. Obviously, they cannot make noise or ask questions until you invite them to, but mere arrivals are no challenge to me at all.
I suppose there are some teachers who cannot concentrate with any distractions like that, but that is a problem for the teacher, not the student. Thinking that students who arrive late are committing an offense equal to "urinating on desks" is so out of line that I incline to agree that his is a man about to crack.
I would side with him if he was a surgeon or a conductor in the middle of a concert, but a teacher? Nah. No sympathy here.
Enjoy this "conversation" between an author and a pirate.
http://nancykress.blogspot.com/2010/03/dialgue-with-pirate.html
The pirate dude writes like he is a Languishite.
it is a bit long, so short attention span folks can look at this kitty:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrollcats.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fyou_will_die_friendless_and_alone_trollcat.jpg&hash=27b96a00bd861458dd5edb44c0a7818a764c9135)
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 09:57:16 AM
Enjoy this "conversation" between an author and a pirate.
http://nancykress.blogspot.com/2010/03/dialgue-with-pirate.html
The pirate dude writes like he is a Languishite.
it is a bit long, so short attention span folks can look at this kitty:
Wow. Someone should have taken the blue pill.
Quote from: Caliga on March 04, 2010, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
MBA students suck, but MBA students that refer to themselves as MBA Candidates suck even more. Way to go, Prof!
Even worse are MBA graduates who sign all of their emails as:
CountDeMoney, M.B.A.
We had one of those as a saleswoman at RHI, but then she got fired for having a low monthly GM and constantly angering clients with her lack of tact and judgment. :)
GM?
Gross margin perhaps? That's a common KPI in sales.
Correct.
Quote from: Zanza on March 30, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Gross margin perhaps? That's a common KPI in sales.
TTHTMA.
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2010, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Zanza on March 30, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Gross margin perhaps? That's a common KPI in sales.
TTHTMA.
You are SOL if your GM is not FUBAR by COB last day of Q2. :)
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2010, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Zanza on March 30, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Gross margin perhaps? That's a common KPI in sales.
TTHTMA.
There can never be too many acronyms. :contract:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 09:57:16 AM
Enjoy this "conversation" between an author and a pirate.
http://nancykress.blogspot.com/2010/03/dialgue-with-pirate.html
The pirate dude writes like he is a Languishite.
it is a bit long, so short attention span folks can look at this kitty:
I'll have to leave a comment thanking her for giving the link to the library
The library has exceeded its quota. :(
Quote from: Caliga on March 30, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2010, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Zanza on March 30, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Gross margin perhaps? That's a common KPI in sales.
TTHTMA.
You are SOL if your GM is not FUBAR by COB last day of Q2. :)
And people complain lawyers are too hard to understand... :rolleyes:
QuoteOne of the many patterns I have noticed among people who labor to excuse huge evils is that they are incredibly sensitive about minor linguistic points. ... This tendency to strain at linguistic gnats and swallow moral camels is one of the warning signs I now look for when detecting the presence of evil.
Grumbler. :(
The pirate was right, anyway, from reading that letter.
The comments section was amusing to read; alot of very self-righteous people making sputtering noises about the evils of pirating books. I wonder how many of them actually pay for their music?
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 12:39:12 PM
The pirate was right, anyway, from reading that letter.
The comments section was amusing to read; alot of very self-righteous people making sputtering noises about the evils of pirating books. I wonder how many of them actually pay for their music?
Heh, I'm trying to wrap my head around why authours and musicians ought to write books and record music for free. :D
Love how the author advertised this pirate site, he seems to have some interesting stuff on there and I will make use of it.
I'm still trying to digest a moral camel.
Joe (RIP) was moral?
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 01:00:45 PM
I'm still trying to digest a moral camel.
That won't be pretty coming back out. :x
Quote from: sbr on March 30, 2010, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 01:00:45 PM
I'm still trying to digest a moral camel.
That won't be pretty coming back out. :x
I had taco bell yesterday. So I'm used to anything.
Quote from: Tyr on March 30, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Love how the author advertised this pirate site, he seems to have some interesting stuff on there and I will make use of it.
Agreed. There is interesting stuff there.
I do not think my mother has some of the Tom Sharpe's he's listed, for example. Which will, of course, be deleted as per the site's instructions once read.
Quote from: Neil on March 30, 2010, 12:24:55 PM
QuoteOne of the many patterns I have noticed among people who labor to excuse huge evils is that they are incredibly sensitive about minor linguistic points. ... This tendency to strain at linguistic gnats and swallow moral camels is one of the warning signs I now look for when detecting the presence of evil.
Grumbler. :(
I was thinking of
you when I read that! :lol:
Quote from: grumbler on March 30, 2010, 02:34:10 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 30, 2010, 12:24:55 PM
QuoteOne of the many patterns I have noticed among people who labor to excuse huge evils is that they are incredibly sensitive about minor linguistic points. ... This tendency to strain at linguistic gnats and swallow moral camels is one of the warning signs I now look for when detecting the presence of evil.
Grumbler. :(
I was thinking of you when I read that! :lol:
:lol: What are the odds!
From Fark:
http://www.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770786
Post 1, then post #44. If real, :lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 22, 2010, 08:32:28 AM
From Fark:
http://www.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770786
Post 1, then post #44. If real, :lol:
:XD: