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Title: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Martinus on February 28, 2010, 05:06:38 AM
Quote» 02/27/2010 11:38
PAKISTAN
Karachi, a Christian sentenced to life imprisonment for blasphemy
by Fareed Khan
Qamar David was in prison since 2006. In the weeks after his arrest police failed to find any concrete evidence against him. Muslim co-defendant acquitted, for lack of evidence. Christian activists: verdict result of "influences and prejudices" and motivated by " external pressures ".

Karachi (AsiaNews) - Qamar David, a Christian in the dock on charges of blasphemy, was sentenced to life imprisonment. The basis of the ruling, issued on Feb. 25, the fact that the man "hurt the religious feelings" of Muslims; however, the co-defendant was acquitted for lack of evidence. The police had arrested the man in 2006, although there was no evidence against him.   

Additional District and Sessions Judge found Qamar David guilty of using blasphemous remarks about the Islamic Prophet  and Quran and pronounced the verdict after hearing final arguments from both sides, daily Dawn reported yesterday.   

According to the verdict, a SIM phone card was found in possession of the convict and the data produced by the cellular company established that messages were sent from the seized  phone card, which they claim belonged to the Christian.

A contact close to the accused is of the opinion that the facts, evidence and law were in his favour. The evidence against him is said to be based on hearsay, and an accused Muslim in a parallel case was fully acquitted on the same facts. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source described the final judgement as "biased and prejudiced," and believes that external pressure on the court may have played a part in distorting the outcome, a news release issued by Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) states.

CSW is deeply concerned over news that a Pakistani Christian from Lahore was sentenced to life imprisonment for blasphemy against the Prophet Mohammed, the communiqué. The Christian man was arrested in May 2006 for allegedly spreading blasphemous messages through his cellphone. During that time both Mr David and his lawyer, Parvez Choudhry, were regularly subjected to assassination attempts and threats of violence from abusive mobs.

CSW's National Director Stuart Windsor said: "This alarming verdict is yet further illustration of the urgent need for the government of Pakistan to repeal its blasphemy laws. The legislation continues to be abused for the satisfaction of personal vendettas against Pakistanis of all faiths. It is a dangerous tool in the hands of those seeking to persecute or discriminate against religious minorities."

Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) is a human rights organisation which specialises in religious freedom, works on behalf of those persecuted for their Christian beliefs and promotes religious liberty for all.

Fucking savages.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: The Brain on February 28, 2010, 06:51:56 AM
Mohammed sucks old wrinkly cock.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: grumbler on February 28, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Something about this whole thing smells.  Marti provides no source, the text is very poorly written, and the only thing like an original source I can find for this is
"AsiaNews.it" which appears to be a rip off of AsiaNews.net (which doesn't have the story).  Evry other source I see for this story is simply taking it from this AsiaNews.it site.

I am not saying that there is nothing going on here, I am just saying the story has shady antecedents.  I'd need to see something a lot more authoritative before I would start going all "tolerant Marti"-esque with the "fucking savages" bit.

The Brain is, as usual, correct.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Ender on February 28, 2010, 11:27:51 AM
We are winning the War On Jihad.

Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Jaron on February 28, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
If this man had been jailed for life for saying something bad about gay people, Martinus would have applauded Pakistani enlightenment.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: derspiess on February 28, 2010, 02:56:46 PM
Man, that's almost as strict as Ireland's blasphemy law.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: garbon on February 28, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 28, 2010, 06:51:56 AM
Mohammed sucks old wrinkly cock.

Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Martinus on February 28, 2010, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 28, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Something about this whole thing smells.  Marti provides no source, the text is very poorly written, and the only thing like an original source I can find for this is
"AsiaNews.it" which appears to be a rip off of AsiaNews.net (which doesn't have the story).  Evry other source I see for this story is simply taking it from this AsiaNews.it site.

I am not saying that there is nothing going on here, I am just saying the story has shady antecedents.  I'd need to see something a lot more authoritative before I would start going all "tolerant Marti"-esque with the "fucking savages" bit.

The Brain is, as usual, correct.

When I posted it BBC wasn't yet reporting it. I read about it on a Polish newspaper site this morning and this is an English text I found. But this is all over the internet.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Valmy on March 01, 2010, 12:19:23 PM
Can you really blaspheme a religion you are not a part of?

I mean saying I don't believe Mohammed was a Prophet of God is sort of evident by the fact that you are not a Muslim.  Does saying it suddenly make it worse?
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: grumbler on March 01, 2010, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 28, 2010, 07:14:17 PM
When I posted it BBC wasn't yet reporting it.
And they still aren't.  There is still just that one badly-written Italian source with dubious authenticity.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Martinus on March 01, 2010, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 01, 2010, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 28, 2010, 07:14:17 PM
When I posted it BBC wasn't yet reporting it.
And they still aren't.  There is still just that one badly-written Italian source with dubious authenticity.

This news is reported a lot over the internet, but not by any of the mainstream networks. Are you saying it is made up or what?
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: grumbler on March 01, 2010, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 01, 2010, 02:20:25 PM
This news is reported a lot over the internet, but not by any of the mainstream networks. Are you saying it is made up or what?
I am saying that seeing 100 web sites copy the single badly-written story from an Italian website that purports to specialize in Asian news does not make the story more credible than when 50 web sites copied it.   I am saying I need credible evidence before I believe things written on the internet. 
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Drakken on March 01, 2010, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 28, 2010, 06:51:56 AM
Mohammed sucks old wrinkly cock.

Let's put a pic of it, shall we? That'll be even more insulting (an attract Mooslimb fanatics against Languish).  :ph34r:
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Jaron on March 01, 2010, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 01, 2010, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 01, 2010, 02:20:25 PM
This news is reported a lot over the internet, but not by any of the mainstream networks. Are you saying it is made up or what?
I am saying that seeing 100 web sites copy the single badly-written story from an Italian website that purports to specialize in Asian news does not make the story more credible than when 50 web sites copied it.   I am saying I need credible evidence before I believe things written on the internet.

I love watching you operate, boy.
Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: Ender on March 01, 2010, 07:12:27 PM
I say this is bullocks.

Title: Re: A Christian sentenced to life for blasphemy in Pakistan
Post by: garbon on March 01, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: Ender on March 01, 2010, 07:12:27 PM
I say this is bullocks.

Great