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Title: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 17, 2010, 08:12:08 PM
Suck it Argies :nelson:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/17/argentina-steps-up-falkands-oil-row
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Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration

Britain says drilling for hydrocarbons will go ahead despite Argentine moves to require permits

    * Rory Carroll
    * guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 17 February 2010 20.01 GMT
    * Article history

Port Howard, Falkland Islands

Britain and the Falkland Islands today brushed off Argentinian moves to impede oil and gas exploration in British-controlled waters in the south Atlantic, saying there was no threat to shipping.

The Foreign Office and Falkland authorities said drilling for hydrocarbon deposits would go ahead without disruption despite an Argentinian effort to control traffic between its ports and the islands.

The rebuff came as critics in Buenos Aires accused Argentina's government of playing the nationalist card to distract from mounting domestic woes.

Yesterday President Cristina Kirchner issued a decree obliging all vessels using Argentinian ports to seek a permit if they enter or leave British-controlled waters, escalating a diplomatic row with London over a prospective "black gold" bonanza.

Argentina lost a brief 1982 war over the archipelago, which it calls the Malvinas, but still claims sovereignty and describes the British presence as an occupation.

Phyl Rendell, the Falklands' director of mineral resources, shrugged off talk of a blockade. "There are very few implications for the Falklands regarding the presidential decree because there are no direct shipping links with Argentina anyway. All oil exploration supplies are being shipped out from Aberdeen. I do not see how the situation can escalate."

The Foreign Office also played down the possibility of conflict and said it wanted to co-operate with Buenos Aires over south Atlantic issues. "Regulations governing Argentine territorial waters are a matter for the Argentine authorities. This does not affect Falkland Islands territorial waters, which are controlled by the island authorities."

Argentina's decree, announced with some fanfare at a press conference, will in theory force all ships bound for the islands or travelling through waters claimed by Argentina to secure the new permit. The decree did not specify, and officials did not elaborate, what sanctions Argentina may levy on ships which do not comply.

Kirchner urged the UN to broker talks over the archipelago's sovereignty and accused Britain of dodging negotiations. The president defended the decree, saying: "I am telling all Argentines that we will keep working for our rights in Malvinas."

Argentinians consider sovereignty over the islands, which Britain occupied in 1833, a matter of national pride. The prospect of missing an oil bonanza has salted wounds from the 1982 conflict, which cost 649 Argentinian and 258 British lives.

A rig, the Ocean Guardian, is expected to arrive this week to start drilling 100 miles offshore. Geological surveys suggest up to 60bn barrels may lie beneath the seabed. Earlier this month Argentina lodged a formal diplomatic protest and last week it prevented a cargo ship from sailing on suspicion it was carrying oil drilling equipment to the islands.

Critics accused Kirchner, whose ratings have plunged over inflation, corruption and battles with farmers, of seeking a distraction. The government must not try to hide "serious internal problems", the newspaper Clarin said in an editorial.

Oil analysts said Argentina's actions would raise the cost of exploration in Argentinian as well as Falkland waters. No commercial deposits have yet been found. A British company, Desire Petroleum, has hired the Ocean Guardian rig to drill in the North Falkland basin and will later lease it to two other British companies, Rockhopper and Falklands Oil and Gas, and an Australian one, BHP Billiton.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: MadImmortalMan on February 17, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
I hope they hit the strike of the century in the South Atlantic and the Argies have to sit there and watch the riches flow while they stew in it.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Monoriu on February 17, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 17, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
I hope they hit the strike of the century in the South Atlantic and the Argies have to sit there and watch the riches flow while they stew in it.

That's even better than Round 2 :yes:
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: derspiess on February 17, 2010, 08:41:32 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 17, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
I hope they hit the strike of the century in the South Atlantic and the Argies have to sit there and watch the riches flow while they stew in it.

If they follow Minsky's advice & hire out the Revolutionary Guard to do the work for them, they may get those islands yet.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Sheilbh on February 17, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
I always feel torn on the Falklands/Malvinas issue.

However I'm not torn on the Fernandez/Kirchner issue <_<
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Razgovory on February 17, 2010, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 17, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
I hope they hit the strike of the century in the South Atlantic and the Argies have to sit there and watch the riches flow while they stew in it.

If they do strike Oil, then the British are doing them a huge favor.  Oil could kill the Argentine economy.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: derspiess on February 17, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 17, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
However I'm not torn on the Fernandez/Kirchner issue <_<

Go on.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Sheilbh on February 17, 2010, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 17, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 17, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
However I'm not torn on the Fernandez/Kirchner issue <_<

Go on.
I imagine it's one of the few issues where our view would be as one :P

Though I still love Eva.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Ed Anger on February 18, 2010, 07:37:19 AM
One part of me dislikes the Argies. Another part of me wants the Brits to get kneed in the groin.

I am: torn

Then again, I know this shit ain't going that far.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: KRonn on February 18, 2010, 08:20:35 AM
Good for the Brits trying to find new sources of oil near the Falklands. I hope they have some good luck, like Brazil did a few years ago with a massive oil find off shore.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Josquius on February 18, 2010, 08:37:53 AM
Hasn't the government been offering to share profits for oil in the area with the Argentinans for a while and they kept refusing?
Glad to see we're finally going ahead and doing it ourselves (as we should have done in the first place)
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Duque de Bragança on February 18, 2010, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 18, 2010, 08:37:53 AM
Hasn't the government been offering to share profits for oil in the area with the Argentinans for a while and they kept refusing?
Glad to see we're finally going ahead and doing it ourselves (as we should have done in the first place)

According to the BBC, Kirschner (husband and predecessor) of the current president unilaterally cancelled  such a deal in 2007.

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However, it was Argentina that unilaterally decided in 2007 to scrap an agreement with the UK to share the proceeds of any oil discoveries in Falklands waters.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8519807.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8519807.stm)
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Neil on February 18, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Fuck Argentina.

Quickly!  I command you all to find me some Argentinian internet whining related to this latest move.
Title: Re: Argentina steps up row over Falklands oil exploration
Post by: Martinus on February 18, 2010, 09:22:37 AM
After standing up to Russians and now Israelis, I wish the Brits would kick some Argie ass now.