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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2010, 09:38:03 PM

Title: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2010, 09:38:03 PM
DUCE!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8497291.stm

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Mussolini iPhone application is withdrawn
By Duncan Kennedy
BBC News, Rome

An iPhone application that allows users to download speeches by the former Italian dictator Benito Mussolini has been withdrawn.

Its developer says he is removing it after legal threats.

But the application has also faced protests from Jewish groups and Holocaust survivors who described it as offensive.

IMussolini, as the application is known, has become the most popular iPhone download in Italy.

It has even beaten video games based on the current film sensation Avatar.

It is a 25-minute collection of video and audio clips from 100 of Mussolini's speeches.

But now it has been withdrawn after a row with the film institute where the pictures came from.

The institute says the application is an aberration, far removed from the educational purposes for which the clips should be used.

Luigi Marino, who developed iMussolini, said he took it down after legal threats. But he says he intends to put it back on when the matter is cleared up.

A number of Jewish groups had expressed deep concern about the app.

One said it was part of the slide towards legitimising fascism and the rehabilitation of Mussolini.

Another said it was an unacceptable attempt to exalt what he called a filthy past.

Apple told us it did not want to comment on the matter.

Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Neil on February 03, 2010, 09:46:08 PM
Blood alone moves the wheels of history?
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 01:58:32 AM
It must be said. however, that 6,000 downloads from January 21th is hardly a massive success... I guess Italians just don't buy many iPhone apps.

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L'applicazione è in vendita dal 21 gennaio nella sezione E-books dello iTunes Store italiano e ha riscosso molto successo. "Imussolini", lanciata al prezzo di 0,79 centesimi, è addirittura al primo posto tra le applicazioni più vendute con oltre 6.000 download

http://www.valdelsa.net/det-cy45-it-EUR-36262-.htm
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Razgovory on February 04, 2010, 03:19:44 AM
Europeans just don't change.
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Pedrito on February 04, 2010, 04:13:23 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 01:58:32 AM
It must be said. however, that 6,000 downloads from January 21th is hardly a massive success... I guess Italians just don't buy many iPhone apps.

My personal experience is: most italians download free applications only, and most of them applications are repositories of cooking recipes.  ;)
I tried to convince my wife to download the Kama Sutra app, but she refused  :glare:

L.
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 04, 2010, 03:19:44 AM
Europeans just don't change.

Et tu, Brute?

By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 04, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
Et tu, Brute?

By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P

Stubbornness.  It's the American way. :contract:
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Neil on February 04, 2010, 08:48:20 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P
Give them a break.  You can't trust a politician from Chicago.
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: KRonn on February 04, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 04, 2010, 03:19:44 AM
Europeans just don't change.

Et tu, Brute?

By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P
I wish we would try to do it in a civilized way, use some Euro models or parts of yours that work well, learn from your experience, and not the way it's so far been proposed!  :)
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: Agelastus on February 04, 2010, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: KRonn on February 04, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 04, 2010, 03:19:44 AM
Europeans just don't change.

Et tu, Brute?

By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P
I wish we would try to do it in a civilized way, use some Euro models or parts of yours that work well, learn from your experience, and not the way it's so far been proposed!  :)

A suggestion which makes excellent sense; even I, who consider the NHS a bloated hog that should NOT be free for those who can afford to pay am willing to admit that aspects of it work very well. The same is true for what I know of various of the European systems.

Do you think that your legislators are avoiding anything that smacks of a "European model" because of some perceived taint of "socialism by association"?
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: derspiess on February 04, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
Disappointing.  I was hoping the app would be a game where you, as il Duce, have to run around & avoid partisans, who will string you up if they capture you.  Or something akin to Super Mario Brothers.
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: KRonn on February 04, 2010, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 04, 2010, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: KRonn on February 04, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on February 04, 2010, 05:46:45 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 04, 2010, 03:19:44 AM
Europeans just don't change.

Et tu, Brute?

By the way, I need someone to give me an update. Have you decided at last to join the civilized world and create a universal public health system, or are Americans still resisting change?  :P
I wish we would try to do it in a civilized way, use some Euro models or parts of yours that work well, learn from your experience, and not the way it's so far been proposed!  :)

A suggestion which makes excellent sense; even I, who consider the NHS a bloated hog that should NOT be free for those who can afford to pay am willing to admit that aspects of it work very well. The same is true for what I know of various of the European systems.

Do you think that your legislators are avoiding anything that smacks of a "European model" because of some perceived taint of "socialism by association"?
I think that mainly our legislators are trying to create a system that caters to US needs, and most importantly caters to the various interested parties, and politicians, they need to satisfy in order to pass some kind of health care reform. I might wish they'd try to model parts of systems that work well, and avoid the pitfalls where things don't work well. And yeah, I'm sure the legislators would be called socialists if they tried to copy socialized health care systems too much, but they're getting that label now if they push for too much govt control, but then, this hasn't been a well run legislation process at all. 
Title: Re: Mussolini app is most popular IPhone app in Italy
Post by: The Brain on February 04, 2010, 04:12:55 PM
BFD. iHitler is the biggest app in Germany and no one is complaining.