Is there any way to get an aproximation of the number of people that have lived on Earth for the last 6000 years?
109 947 781 641 people in 1998.
http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm
50,000 years, freaking god-fearer. Evolution is FACT.
I don't think you can get an acceptable number Siege. You won't find a person capable of thinking it through who would start 6,000 years ago with two people, because only imbeciles accept the Jewish creation myths as fact.
There is a school of thought, a lame one, says that the world is going to end soon because most people who would live have already lived.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 15, 2010, 07:23:19 AM
There is a school of thought, a lame one, says that the world is going to end soon because most people who would live have already lived.
I read about that. I figured it was kind of a strange circular reasoning.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 15, 2010, 07:23:19 AM
There is a school of thought, a lame one, says that the world is going to end soon because most people who would live have already lived.
It's not entirely unreasonable as clearly humanity has been churning out people with neither soul nor sentience for quite some time now.
What happens when ALL of them run out? Just look at Somalia or for that matter most any other african nation.
What a terrifying subject to think about. I think I need a drink now.
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2010, 07:13:26 AM
109 947 781 641 people in 1998.
http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm (http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm)
50,000 years, freaking god-fearer. Evolution is FACT.
How can I do the math starting 6000 years ago?
Quote from: Siege on January 15, 2010, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2010, 07:13:26 AM
109 947 781 641 people in 1998.
http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm (http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm)
50,000 years, freaking god-fearer. Evolution is FACT.
How can I do the math starting 6000 years ago?
You can't.
I suspect you probably *could* but only if every woman had like 50 kids, and all of those kids survived long enough to reproduce and had like 50 kids of their own.
Besides, you need to try and define personhood. What counts as a person? Only the genus Homo? Homo sapiens? Homo sapiens sapiens?
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2010, 08:40:23 AM
Besides, you need to try and define personhood. What counts as a person? Only the genus Homo? Homo sapiens? Homo sapiens sapiens?
Stop trying to make his head explode. :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on January 15, 2010, 08:12:55 AM
I suspect you probably *could* but only if every woman had like 50 kids, and all of those kids survived long enough to reproduce and had like 50 kids of their own.
starting with adam and eve, with 2 surviving kids (not accounting for incest) with 20 year generations you get over 6000 years 2x10^90 people, which is a problem since there are only about 3x10^79 hydrogen atoms (90% of all atoms) in the universe.
We breed like fucking locusts...
Edit: My math was wrong, my numbers are not for 2 surviving kids but rather 4 :blush:
with 2.1 kids 20 year generations we only have 4.5 billion.
My bad.
Yeah but that doesn't account for epidemics, famine, and genocide. I have no idea how you would model that in.
The link a provided assumes, if I understand it right, 80 new birth per 1000 person.
You have to remember that back then people lived to be 1000 years old. You can do a lot of procreation in that time.
Secondly, remember that we started over after the deluge. So we really only have about 4000 years.
Thirdly, you can't just account for human parents. There are the angels that sired kids on human women.
You have to work all that into the model.
:lol:
Seige: this whole exercise is a fool's errand. :)
You'd have to calculate it in two stages, before and after the flood
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritrestoration.org%2Fimages%2Fpophist.gif&hash=7fca212bf4b30dd93127692095807bc41022ad1a)
Siege would enjoy the creationist museum.
@ DP: :lol: Love how there were more people on earth prior to the Flood than now. What nutcase produced that graph?
Why did we fuck more before the flood than after? I missed that part in catechism class. :shutup:
Because we lived longer, as I said.
That makes no sense. If a pre-flood human had an average life span of a thousand years its reproductive practices would become much more circumspect. Rabbits only breed like rabbits because they live for such a short period of time.
Sure, that's the part that makes no sense.
Quote from: Fate on January 15, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
That makes no sense. If a pre-flood human had an average life span of a thousand years its reproductive practices would become much more circumspect.
Be fruitful and multiply.
No one ever told the J-source about the demographic transition.
Quote from: Siege on January 15, 2010, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2010, 07:13:26 AM
109 947 781 641 people in 1998.
http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm (http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/~felwell/Ecology/The%20Number%20of%20People%20That%20Have%20Ever%20Lived.htm)
50,000 years, freaking god-fearer. Evolution is FACT.
How can I do the math starting 6000 years ago?
That will be a little tough.
The math part is easy - just do follow Grey Fox's link.
Doing the math 6000 years ago is a challenge, however - you will have to get a time machine to bring you back, and that is probably impossible.
The good news is that math doesn't change over time so when you perform the calculations temporally shouldn't matter.
Quote from: Caliga on January 15, 2010, 10:49:38 AM
@ DP: :lol: Love how there were more people on earth prior to the Flood than now. What nutcase produced that graph?
http://ldolphin.org/popul.html
Why does the graph with the flood allow for negative numbers of humans?
That's sure is a lot of references for something that makes no sense.
From DP's website:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fldolphin.org%2Fjewpop2.JPG&hash=681a289b85a5ea9bd665622da735ea655ab0678d)
Hitler left so much work undone. Who will finish the job? :cry:
Are other hominids liek Neandertals people?
They assume higher birth rates in ancient times to keep up replacement levels, yet postulate great increases in the total population during that period? :yeahright: I think that 100 billion mark is a bit high for the last 50k years.
Bizzare.
Yet another thread addressing an issue I thought of on my journey...
Further evidence for my theory that languish is all just a figment of my lonely imagination? I mean...it makes sense....we aren't really much part of the greater internet....
30 billion is the number I have floating in my head for this. Though thats just going off historical population levels, if its everyone who has ever existed including babies which died then...add quite a bit more
just 1, and they're all Yi
Quote from: Fate on January 15, 2010, 10:52:19 AM
Why did we fuck more before the flood than after? I missed that part in catechism class. :shutup:
Explained in detail here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bar3GOzDNzg&feature=related