http://www.gamersgate.com/index.php?page=product&what=view&sku=DDB-CKDV
Interesting. I tried to like EUIII but it was... boring. Supposedly with the expansions is a new game, right?
Quote from: Alatriste on April 02, 2009, 05:22:57 AM
Interesting. I tried to like EUIII but it was... boring. Supposedly with the expansions is a new game, right?
:huh:
Quote from: Caliga on April 02, 2009, 05:43:33 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on April 02, 2009, 05:22:57 AM
Interesting. I tried to like EUIII but it was... boring. Supposedly with the expansions is a new game, right?
:huh:
Ellaborate. That :huh: refers to
a. Vanilla EUIII is boring, or
b. EUIII with expansions is much better?
That was the impression I got from other worthy Languish members...
Quote from: Alatriste on April 02, 2009, 05:47:20 AMEllaborate. That :huh: refers to
a. Vanilla EUIII is boring, or
b. EUIII with expansions is much better?
The :huh: refers to the fact that CK + DV is Crusader Kings with the Deus Vult expansion for Crusader Kings, and has absolutely nothing to do with Europa Universalis III or its expansions, I think.
I think the confusion was over you discussing EUIII in a thread about Crusader Kings.
Quote from: Galrion on April 02, 2009, 08:31:59 AM
I think the confusion was over you discussing EUIII in a thread about Crusader Kings.
Yes, correct.
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
it adds fun.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 02, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
it adds fun.
Less with one liners, more with info el jefe por favor!
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
a lot more court dynamics/events. helpful index stuff. force vassalizing. other chrome. all good.
big downside IMO is stats inflation.
and still needs an official patch. we've been on the last beta (necessary) since October.
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
A revised interface that makes it more user-friendly and intuitive. For example, there are better notifications, icon indicators, and a bride-finder.
The character system has revamped so that they now have more interesting lives of their own, such as child raising/education, friends/rivals, etc. Be wary if your wife starts making friends with other men! :D I started worrying when my little son became friends with the weird-looking archbishop...
and buy the damn pack, and I'll get my patch sooner.
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:07:27 PM
and buy the damn pack, and I'll get my patch sooner.
thanks PV and sask, dl'd now.
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 02, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
So what does DV add? and i'm guessing it's worth getting?
it adds fun.
Less with one liners, more with info el jefe por favor!
One thing it does it adds friends and enemies to your ruler. Let us say you are the King of Poland, and Duke Marty Dicksucker is your enemy. He is going to rebel more, and be a pain in the ass. Until you kill his punk ass.
Plus it slows the Pagan rape down a bit in the baltics. You still get goofy ass muslim counties in Bohemia now and again.
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:07:27 PM
and buy the damn pack, and I'll get my patch sooner.
thanks PV and sask, dl'd now.
awesome. its a great deal they have there.
get the beta patch as well, and check out the various mods too.
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:07:27 PM
and buy the damn pack, and I'll get my patch sooner.
thanks PV and sask, dl'd now.
awesome. its a great deal they have there.
get the beta patch as well, and check out the various mods too.
Will do.
have fun. and I demand an AAR.
Tried to buy: Fail
Tried to create an entity to buy: Fail.
Sorry, but $10 less bucks to Paradox. :(
I have always been mildly interested in this title. Not enough to actually complain when I could not get it, though.
Maybe the next time.
Quote from: grumbler on April 02, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Tried to buy: Fail
Tried to create an entity to buy: Fail.
:blink:
How was it not letting you do it?
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:10:41 PM
awesome. its a great deal they have there.
get the beta patch as well, and check out the various mods too.
2.1 is latest beta patch? :unsure:
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
How was it not letting you do it?
His keyboard only types in cuneiform
Quote from: katmai on April 02, 2009, 09:48:22 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 02, 2009, 02:10:41 PM
awesome. its a great deal they have there.
get the beta patch as well, and check out the various mods too.
2.1 is latest beta patch? :unsure:
yeah. 15 october date.
Yeah. DV made the game enjoyable. Probably on the par of how Revolutions affected Victoria. CK was ok before, great fun after.
Quote from: ulmont on April 02, 2009, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on April 02, 2009, 05:47:20 AMEllaborate. That :huh: refers to
a. Vanilla EUIII is boring, or
b. EUIII with expansions is much better?
The :huh: refers to the fact that CK + DV is Crusader Kings with the Deus Vult expansion for Crusader Kings, and has absolutely nothing to do with Europa Universalis III or its expansions, I think.
I just have one thing to say: Ouch. :blush:
It sounds like a great deal for people who don't already have CK. How is it for people who do?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2009, 03:12:31 PM
It sounds like a great deal for people who don't already have CK. How is it for people who do?
um, you can rest easy, knowing that whatever you paid for CK has already paid for itself many times over already in terms of good gaming. if that is not enough, you can consider that: the more people who buy the game, it builds the case for Johan building the next patch and/or putting CKII up for consideration in Pdox's production schedule.
I don't see how you lose.
Thanks for the heads up. It took me 3 attempts (Paynova seems to hate my bank) but I managed to buy these.
...And you still get Moslem emiratees in Wales by 1090 :bowler:
yep. but you can kill them off really easily.
again, it's not really a historical strat game. it's a court management game in a semi-historical setting. while it is marketed as the first, which leads to disapointment, in gameplay, it's ... almost excellent.
I have to drink more kool-aid now.
I'm with Sask. CK is great fun.
Quote from: saskganesh on April 03, 2009, 10:05:24 PM
yep. but you can kill them off really easily.
That sort of crap is also nowhere near as common as it used to be.
I can't seem to get enough money to field over 2k troops. Getting slaughtered by massive Moor armies that have already wiped out most other Christian kingdoms. :osama:
Expect your treasury to plummet into negatives whenever you wage war, it's been that way since day one. AI is unable to go into negative treasury so it has an easier time of it.
Quote from: Solmyr on April 06, 2009, 05:09:18 AM
Expect your treasury to plummet into negatives whenever you wage war, it's been that way since day one. AI is unable to go into negative treasury so it has an easier time of it.
Is that a change in the expansion or do you mean with the vanilla game?
its in both games. AI has different money rules.
one money cheat for the Player is to never reload after you get a higher title. then your treasury is auto-adjusted to 0 if negative at the start of every month.
of course, there are other side effects of not reloading.
Quote from: saskganesh on April 06, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
of course, there are other side effects of not reloading.
All the other AI-only events, for instance...
It's 25 eur now? :huh:
Quote from: ulmont on April 06, 2009, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 06, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
of course, there are other side effects of not reloading.
All the other AI-only events, for instance...
yeah... :lol:
Quote from: Maladict on April 07, 2009, 02:39:27 AM
It's 25 eur now? :huh:
You missed the boat. It was a "Sale of the Week".
Quote from: Phillip V on April 07, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
You missed the boat. It was a "Sale of the Week".
dammit :mad:
heh. I am in the latter part of a bigserbia game and the Ilkhans have married into and became Norwegian pagans(who have survived in scandiland). they dominate Persia. fun. :bowler:
I got this for the 9.99 deal and I am enjoying it. First game is, as always, the attempt to make the Hohenstauffens into 1) Dukes of Schwabia, then 2) HRE. St. Gallens is not the most adventagous starting point, but it is fun.
Quote from: PDH on April 08, 2009, 10:07:09 AM
I got this for the 9.99 deal and I am enjoying it. First game is, as always, the attempt to make the Hohenstauffens into 1) Dukes of Schwabia, then 2) HRE. St. Gallens is not the most adventagous starting point, but it is fun.
Try Saxony. Even though it isn't as easy before DV, you are in position to strike at the evil Danes.
Quote from: saskganesh on April 08, 2009, 09:56:31 AM
heh. I am in the latter part of a bigserbia game and the Ilkhans have married into and became Norwegian pagans(who have survived in scandiland). they dominate Persia. fun. :bowler:
Khan Olaf Thorstein of Isfahan? :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 08, 2009, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 08, 2009, 09:56:31 AM
heh. I am in the latter part of a bigserbia game and the Ilkhans have married into and became Norwegian pagans(who have survived in scandiland). they dominate Persia. fun. :bowler:
Khan Olaf Thorstein of Isfahan? :)
more like Khan Knute Knyfling be exact.
Danes who became Norse, then returned to paganism, then married a Mongol chicka, and then inherited the Hordes... I think.
so Ishafan now has a temple to Odin. supercool.
Aww, the ups and downs of building an ironclad dynasty with a powerful Realm, only to find your efforts totally ruined by some dinky, inbred, totally impotent, and schizophrenic heir who survives for 30+ years, chases all your vassals away, and cripples your Realm in the near future. :lmfao:
Great memories. :cool:
CK2 NOW! :angry:
Quote from: ulmont on April 18, 2009, 10:25:44 AM
Yes. Please. :cry:
They never accepted your request? :(
Quote from: garbon on April 18, 2009, 11:17:30 AM
They never accepted your request? :(
I never heard anything. I may resubmit eventually, but at the time there was like a 6 month backlog.
Quote from: Drakken on April 15, 2009, 02:21:53 PM
Aww, the ups and downs of building an ironclad dynasty with a powerful Realm, only to find your efforts totally ruined by some dinky, inbred, totally impotent, and schizophrenic heir who survives for 30+ years, chases all your vassals away, and cripples your Realm in the near future. :lmfao:
Great memories. :cool:
That is the best part of CK for me; in most (single-player) games when you get to a certain point there is no chance that you can lose. In CK you can carve out a huge kingdom, then suddenly the Uber-King dies in a tragic lawn-dart "accident" and the Kingdom is taken over by a regency because your In-bred heir is 3 years old. Next thing you know all of your vassals rebel and it takes you 3 generations to re-unite the kingdom.
I resent my app today, and received the following:
Quote from: JohanHello Richard.
We're currently swamped in applications and can't handle more. Please
contact us again in August if you still want to do a license.
My original app, for comparison, was sent in in April 2008...
Yeah, the reason I asked is because people, who applied after you, were recently approved for the eu2 group.
Quote from: garbon on April 21, 2009, 11:11:48 AM
Yeah, the reason I asked is because people, who applied after you, were recently approved for the eu2 group.
I think the cooler games and cooler groups were moved up the list a bit.
Can anyone recommend mods or utilities for this that's updated for DV?
DVIP (with add-on mod), has 1204 start too; TASS is also interesting with three 1066 starts. note these two mods are not compatible.
Divine Glory add-on (cool stand alone scoring system)
there's also some GFX (especially Face mods) and SFX mods. recommend all the sound ones.
as to GFX, there's a variety of interface mods, which are a natter of taste. some are basically shinier, others "more" medieval.
I would reccomend DVIP with add-on as it has the automatic education events, which while not perfect, and can be silly, do bring the stats down to earth. vanilla DVIP has too much stat gain for characters, IMO, which makes the gameplay too easy.
DVIP add on, also has break free event for distant vassals. for gameplay, I lengthen the MTTH a bit (2 months to 20 months), and tweak the probabilities of breaking free to 75/25 from 95/5.
I also change the default strength of all mongol units to 10K from 20k.
this game really needs a new patch. its been 7-8 months since the last beta.
DVIP should add a 1090ish start too, as it's significantly different from 1066 and would be more Crusade-inspiring.
1090-ish would be pretty good.
Quote from: sbr on April 20, 2009, 03:27:09 AM
Quote from: Drakken on April 15, 2009, 02:21:53 PM
Aww, the ups and downs of building an ironclad dynasty with a powerful Realm, only to find your efforts totally ruined by some dinky, inbred, totally impotent, and schizophrenic heir who survives for 30+ years, chases all your vassals away, and cripples your Realm in the near future. :lmfao:
Great memories. :cool:
That is the best part of CK for me; in most (single-player) games when you get to a certain point there is no chance that you can lose. In CK you can carve out a huge kingdom, then suddenly the Uber-King dies in a tragic lawn-dart "accident" and the Kingdom is taken over by a regency because your In-bred heir is 3 years old. Next thing you know all of your vassals rebel and it takes you 3 generations to re-unite the kingdom.
I hate that, thats loosing the cheap way. I prefer games to actually challenge you fairly. Thats where CK fails for me, the initial take over of masses of land should be much...not harder (or else it'd be boring) but very different.
make some house rules and play the game like a RPG. there's only so much the AI can do to stop powergaming.