A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
But who eats just one cup? You make Ramen noodles, and the serving is the package.
And more to the point is that the calories are largely empty - no real nutritional value in them at all, just pure carbs and salt.
But tasty!
Quote from: Berkut on December 07, 2009, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
But who eats just one cup? You make Ramen noodles, and the serving is the package.
And more to the point is that the calories are largely empty - no real nutritional value in them at all, just pure carbs and salt.
But tasty!
That is what I'm saying--the entire package was 290 calories. (the package was a cup)
I'm with you that they are an unhealthy food to base a diet on, but I'm not sure about the obesity angle.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
Is this the nutritional value of an entire meal (including toppings and the like) or just the noodle component?
Quote from: Martinus on December 07, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
Is this the nutritional value of an entire meal (including toppings and the like) or just the noodle component?
It includes everything in the cup. Are the toppings included in the package? If so, yes, if not, no.
Ahh, so you are talking about those dinky little tiny cups.
Yeah, even a Big mac doesn't have a lot of calories if you only eat a cup of it.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 07, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
A while back I said ramen noodles weren't contributing to our obesity problems, and DGuller and Berkut jumped in to assure me that they are.
I found ramen noodles in the grocery store and a serving of ramen noodles (the entire cup) had just 290 calories. How many of those do you have to eat in a day to become obese? I would think that you would die of an overdose of whatever chemicals they put in those things before you became overweight.
Is this the nutritional value of an entire meal (including toppings and the like) or just the noodle component?
It includes everything in the cup. Are the toppings included in the package? If so, yes, if not, no.
I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. Considering you started a thread about it, I assumed you knew what you were talking about.
Quote from: Berkut on December 07, 2009, 10:12:58 AM
Ahh, so you are talking about those dinky little tiny cups.
Yeah, even a Big mac doesn't have a lot of calories if you only eat a cup of it.
It was the standard size--the only size I saw.
The next time you see a ramen noodle display, look for the one you used to eat and report the calories. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing.
People eat massive plates of pasta in the name of health and it's essentially the same. An average plateful can easily ramp up 500 calories before you start on the toppings.
All the ramen noodles in UK supermarkets are now low sodium and severely lacking in umami since they took out the MSG :(
http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/nissan/cup-noodles/
This is why I eat a box of pancake wrapped sausages a day.
Did I actually say that Ramen noodles contribute to obesity? I'm not going to go back and check, but it sounds very uncharacteristic of me. It's not like me to blame some food on obesity, I think that's a simplistic view of the problem. I do remember mentioning Ramen noodles to a counter a point that healthy food is cheap.
Quote from: Martinus on December 07, 2009, 10:16:59 AM
I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. Considering you started a thread about it, I assumed you knew what you were talking about.
I don't know much about ramen noodles. I only started a thread because I saw a ramen package that had 290 calories.
A regular package of Ramen noodles has 600 calories (2 servings). Those calories are from fat (something like 7 grams of it). IIRC, you get a full day's worth of salt, as well.
If you get a package half that size, then you have half the calories, but then you have the calories of the food you eat to supplement the Ramen noodles. Probably a lot less fatty, though.
As Berkut noted, these are empty calories. Their sole virtue is that they are cheap. I cannot understand why an adult with a job would consume ramen noodles, when you can get healthy food that tastes even better for only a modest increase in cost. Students... yeah, I've been there and done that and understand why others would as well.
Quote from: DGuller on December 07, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Did I actually say that Ramen noodles contribute to obesity? I'm not going to go back and check, but it sounds very uncharacteristic of me. It's not like me to blame some food on obesity, I think that's a simplistic view of the problem. I do remember mentioning Ramen noodles to a counter a point that healthy food is cheap.
I thought you did, I wouldn't have contended ramen noodles were healthy, so we wouldn't have had a point of disagreement.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: Berkut on December 07, 2009, 10:12:58 AM
Ahh, so you are talking about those dinky little tiny cups.
Yeah, even a Big mac doesn't have a lot of calories if you only eat a cup of it.
It was the standard size--the only size I saw.
The next time you see a ramen noodle display, look for the one you used to eat and report the calories. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing.
I think the standard package one thinks of as Ramen noodles is a 3 oz brick that you throw into boiling water. I doubt that it's going to have a much higher caloric content, however.
Ah, I see that someone has posted the link. I was wrong; a pack of ramen noodles has 26 grams of fat, not 7! :lol:
And it is 88% of the daily sodium intake.
Quote from: grumbler on December 07, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
A regular package of Ramen noodles has 600 calories (2 servings). Those calories are from fat (something like 7 grams of it). IIRC, you get a full day's worth of salt, as well.
If you get a package half that size, then you have half the calories, but then you have the calories of the food you eat to supplement the Ramen noodles. Probably a lot less fatty, though.
As Berkut noted, these are empty calories. Their sole virtue is that they are cheap. I cannot understand why an adult with a job would consume ramen noodles, when you can get healthy food that tastes even better for only a modest increase in cost. Students... yeah, I've been there and done that and understand why others would as well.
The packages I was looking at were 1 serving and 290 calories. So I guess there are bigger packages that are 2 servings and twice the calories. Still, on the calorie front that doesn't seem so bad.
These weren't bricks, they were cups. I guess the brick is more standard?
Quote from: Brazen on December 07, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
umami
umama
A dry brick of Top Ramen has 380 calories. I just checked.
Quote from: grumbler on December 07, 2009, 10:26:13 AM
Ah, I see that someone has posted the link. I was wrong; a pack of ramen noodles has 26 grams of fat, not 7! :lol:
And it is 88% of the daily sodium intake.
7 grams of fat is only 63 calories.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 10:28:06 AM
The packages I was looking at were 1 serving and 290 calories. So I guess there are bigger packages that are 2 servings and twice the calories. Still, on the calorie front that doesn't seem so bad.
These weren't bricks, they were cups. I guess the brick is more standard?
The cup is a bourgeois luxury. The brick is the gold standard of ramen delivery.
Quote from: Brazen on December 07, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
All the ramen noodles in UK supermarkets are now low sodium and severely lacking in umami since they took out the MSG :(
That sucks. Well, fortunately I keep a supply of MSG in my spice cabinet so I can always combat such hippie initiatives. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2009, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: Brazen on December 07, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
All the ramen noodles in UK supermarkets are now low sodium and severely lacking in umami since they took out the MSG :(
That sucks. Well, fortunately I keep a supply of MSG in my spice cabinet so I can always combat such hippie initiatives. :cool:
No way Obama's seasoning panels are getting their hands on my MSG!
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 07, 2009, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 07, 2009, 10:28:06 AM
The packages I was looking at were 1 serving and 290 calories. So I guess there are bigger packages that are 2 servings and twice the calories. Still, on the calorie front that doesn't seem so bad.
These weren't bricks, they were cups. I guess the brick is more standard?
The cup is a bourgeois luxury.
:lol:
it's funny because it's true. god knows i wish i had the cups when i was younger
Quote from: grumbler on December 07, 2009, 10:23:09 AMI cannot understand why an adult with a job would consume ramen noodles
Because instant noodles are delicious and easy to make.
There are some really good tasting ones out there. They have noodles that come with vacuum packed foil pouches that have actual meat, veggies, and sauce now. Earlier I had instant noodles with spicy red sauce, clams, and mushrooms. I also have noodles with pouches containing chicken and potato curry, beef in chili sauce, pork and mustard greens, and duck. Even noodles that don't come with pouches are great if stir fried with some veggies and chicken/prawns.
I love Ramen occasionally; but I add stuff to it. A couple of hard boiled eggs cut into halves, a cut up chicken breast, some green onions, a splash of vinegar and soy sauce. Assuming the chicken is pre-cooked, I always cook a couple more than I will need when making a meal, it is a very fast and tasty meal. The sodium is high but I normally eat a pretty low sodium diet so I am not that worried about a weekly binge.
Quote from: sbr on December 07, 2009, 12:53:33 PM
I love Ramen occasionally; but I add stuff to it. A couple of hard boiled eggs cut into halves, a cut up chicken breast, some green onions, a splash of vinegar and soy sauce. Assuming the chicken is pre-cooked, I always cook a couple more than I will need when making a meal, it is a very fast and tasty meal. The sodium is high but I normally eat a pretty low sodium diet so I am not that worried about a weekly binge.
The Udon "Ramed" stuff is awesome - comes in a sealed packet, so the noodles are soft, not har dlike regular Ramen.
Take a egg, scramble it in a bowl, pour it in after the water is boiling. Add some veggies, maybe some leftover meat if you ahve some, and a healthy dose of Daves Fire Sauce.
Eat with a piece of crusty bread.
The Udon stuff is great; the cup ramen, not so much. I've always been a staunch fan of packet ramen (I use my own prep method to make it sauce instead of soup).
Raman tends to be my breakfast, lunch and dinner...of course I've been laid off for 5 months now. I tend to spice it up by adding spaghetti sauce and occasionally BBQ sauce. Adding any meats or whatnot to it tends to make the price go up so If I was going to do that, might as well buy something that tastes better. Or if I need a texture change, I just break the brick up into small pieces and have a bland crunchy snack.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 07, 2009, 01:05:25 PM
The Udon stuff is great; the cup ramen, not so much. I've always been a staunch fan of packet ramen (I use my own prep method to make it sauce instead of soup).
You mean the secret recipe of adding less water?
Ramen is strange, pretty expensive stuff (relativly speaking of course) back in Britain but the staple poor student food over here. I know people who have gone months eating nought else.
I sometimes make Ramen with stuff like soy sauce, hot sauce, and peanuts and toss the packet of flavoring powder.
Quote from: Barrister on December 07, 2009, 01:15:03 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 07, 2009, 01:05:25 PM
The Udon stuff is great; the cup ramen, not so much. I've always been a staunch fan of packet ramen (I use my own prep method to make it sauce instead of soup).
You mean the secret recipe of adding less water?
I usually drain the noodles entirely and eat them dry, with whatever comes with it or stir fry with my own ingredients.
Quote from: Brazen on December 07, 2009, 01:15:32 PM
I beg to differ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
"Yo mama" :P
That was my joke. :bash:
Quote from: Brazen on December 07, 2009, 01:15:32 PM
"Yo mama" :P
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netfoodie.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F02%2Fmama-pork-noodles.jpg&hash=6040a713417881add4b712e11be34a3962ec4bfe)
:x I picked a wrong day to have incomnia-induced nausea.
I used to devour Indomie.
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2009, 01:16:31 PM
I sometimes make Ramen with stuff like soy sauce, hot sauce, and peanuts and toss the packet of flavoring powder.
Why don't you just buy the noodles on their own then?
I'm no welfare queen expert like Berkut, but when I make Ramen for dinner it's generally just one package.
[DGuller]
Fate has a point!
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Quote from: Fate on December 07, 2009, 05:02:19 PM
I'm no welfare queen expert like Berkut, ....
I am glad that you don't claim expertise, but don't deny that you are a welfare queen. That's honesty. :P
Quote from: Jacob on December 07, 2009, 04:49:46 PM
Why don't you just buy the noodles on their own then?
AFAIK not available plain where I live.
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2009, 08:32:36 PM
AFAIK not available plain where I live.
I guess that makes sense.