Link (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20091130/US.Extreme.Beer/)
:mmm:
I'd love a bottle of that...
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BOSTON — It is banned in 13 states and sure doesn't come in a six-pack.
The maker of Samuel Adams beer has released an updated version of its biennial beer Utopias — now the highest alcohol content beer on the market. At 27 percent alcohol by volume and $150 a bottle, the limited release of the brandy-colored Utopias comes as more brewers take advantage of improvements in science to boost potency and enhance taste.
"Just part of trying to push the envelope," said Jim Koch, founder and owner of the Boston Beer Co. the maker of Sam Adams. "I'm pushing it beyond what the laws of these 13 states ever contemplated when they passed those laws decades ago."
Since the 1990s, craft brewers like the Boston Beer Co. and the Delaware-based Dogfish Head have produced a number of "extreme beers" that challenge old notions of beer and the decades-old laws that have governed them.
By law, these specialty drinks still are classified as beer when they are based on fermented grain. And despite the hefty prices of the high-scale beer, brewers still have to pay the required nickel deposit on bottles.
Paul Gatza, director of the national Brewers Association based in Boulder, Colo., said new yeast research allowed brewers to experiment with the emerging science that pushed the traditional cap of 14 percent alcohol by volume for beer.
"As a result, these new beers, like Utopias, balance sweetness, higher alcohol content and more ingredients," Gatza said.
A few states also have moved to adapt their laws to allow for the emerging craft brew market. For example, Alabama and West Virginia recently passed laws to allow higher alcohol content in beer. Lawmakers in Iowa and Mississippi are considering similar legislation.
Gatza said consumers are also pushing for the changes.
That's what sparked a brew battle between the Boston Brewing Co. and Dogfish Head.
In 1993, Koch set a new bar by creating Triple Bock, a beverage with 17.5 percent alcohol by volume. In the early 2000s, Dogfish Head responded with beverages of their own that went to 22 percent.
But the latest Utopias alcohol volume gives Koch and Boston Beer Co. the clear title of having the strongest beer, said Sam Calagione, president and founder of Dogfish Head. "I must bow before him for Utopias," Calagione said. "I don't think we'll be brewing a beer that strong for a while."
Utopias has reached its unique strength through a 15-year aging process in barrels at the Boston Beer Co.'s brewery in Boston. It's aged and finished in wooden containers like Scotch whisky barrels and sherry casks. The drink's yeast strains are regularly used in making malts and champagne.
A quick sip unveils a cognac-like hit combined with vanilla, honey, and maple flavors.
The long production cycle is what limits its availability to once every two years. This holiday season, for example, Koch is only releasing 10,000 bottles with the suggested retail price of $150 apiece.
"It's like making 21-year-old Scotch," Koch said. "Yeah, you can make more. You just can't have it for 21 years."
The drink comes in a ceramic-and-copper bottle that resembles a tiny brew kettle. Thirteen states prohibit its sale because its alcohol content exceeds the legal limit for beer: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont and Washington.
Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the group in general doesn't have a problem with extreme brands of beer like Utopias. However, he hopes the beverage's higher alcohol content is properly labeled and that it isn't marketed to minors.
"Right now, we're reserving judgment," Hurley said.
Koch said the Boston Beer Co. is presenting Utopias as an exclusive beer for sophisticated drinkers that should be consumed like champagne. He said it's not a beer for the weekend football game or for a regular dinner.
He would not speculate whether he would try to get more extreme with future brews, but noted that no one ever thought there would be an "insane brewer" who would be making such a strong Utopias.
"We'll see," he said.
What's the point? It sure is not a beer anymore, no matter how it's called. Beers are not meant to have high ABV.
:huh:
Taste?
I've had several bottles of the Triple. I have been hankering for a shot at this since they leaked it. OMG.
Quote from: Scipio on December 01, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
I've had several bottles of the Triple. I have been hankering for a shot at this since they leaked it. OMG.
You're the rich lawyer type. Buy it and share. :D
Quote from: merithyn on December 01, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: Scipio on December 01, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
I've had several bottles of the Triple. I have been hankering for a shot at this since they leaked it. OMG.
You're the rich lawyer type. Buy it and share. :D
I am the fiscally responsible lawyer type who lives in a state where it is illegal to buy it. So, no, thanks.
But I may buy some in LA and share it with my brewnizzles.
In a civilized place, you'd be talking about Los Angeles. :weep:
Intriguing.... but not likely as described in the article. I believe it's possible to engineer yeast to survive once the brew has exceeded 35 proof (as the article states this is impossible with traditional yeast), but I doubt it takes 15 years to max out on proof... it probably hits that point relatively early and the aging is just to make the flavor more complex and mellowed. I also wonder if they use some kind of special secondary ferment with a flor strain, as in sherry.
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Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the group in general doesn't have a problem with extreme brands of beer like Utopias. However, he hopes the beverage's higher alcohol content is properly labeled and that it isn't marketed to minors.
I'm sure it will be a tough decision for under 21s, $150 bottles of beer or a handle of Popov and a keg of Natty Light.
Quote from: Caliga on December 01, 2009, 07:41:24 PM
Intriguing.... but not likely as described in the article. I believe it's possible to engineer yeast to survive once the brew has exceeded 35 proof (as the article states this is impossible with traditional yeast), but I doubt it takes 15 years to max out on proof... it probably hits that point relatively early and the aging is just to make the flavor more complex and mellowed. I also wonder if they use some kind of special secondary ferment with a flor strain, as in sherry.
My assumption was the 15-year aging process was related to flavor, not fermentation. They don't really say, though, do they?
I wonder what would be required to make a yeast that can live at that high of an alcohol content.
QuoteUtopias has reached its unique strength through a 15-year aging process
That's the line I was referring to.
I would imagine they got these strains via selective breeding rather than genetic engineering... just repeated exposure of yeast to small batches of alcohol at higher and higher dosages till they had strains that were stronger.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on December 01, 2009, 07:46:30 PM
I'm sure it will be a tough decision for under 21s, $150 bottles of beer or a handle of Popov and a keg of Natty Light.
"A handle." I like that. Going to use it, along with slab of beer.
Had the utopia, I liked it.
I like Samuel Adams, but at that price, I'll pass unless someone's buying.
Quote from: Scipio on December 01, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
I've had several bottles of the Triple. OMG.
It was a huge letdown for me. The maple syrup absolutely ruined it.
Anywho, I made a Barleywine-type ale in college. I used a champagne yeast & got it up to about 16+% ABV. It tasted... interesting.
Strongest beer I ever drank was Kulmbacher Eisbock, weighing in at 24% ABV. It was like having a 6-pack in one bottle, and surprisingly very drinkable.
I could get a bottle of JOhnny Walker Blue for that. Screw that noise yo.
Barleywine was nice.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on December 01, 2009, 07:46:30 PM
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Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the group in general doesn't have a problem with extreme brands of beer like Utopias. However, he hopes the beverage's higher alcohol content is properly labeled and that it isn't marketed to minors.
I'm sure it will be a tough decision for under 21s, $150 bottles of beer or a handle of Popov and a keg of Natty Light.
No shit. But it's not like MADD has any understanding of anyone's drinking habits.
When I was under 21, we always bought the more expensive stuff-- seemed to take some of the suspicion away. Well, that and my older brother's ID I carried around with me :ph34r:
Quote from: DGuller on December 01, 2009, 07:24:03 PM
What's the point? It sure is not a beer anymore, no matter how it's called. Beers are not meant to have high ABV.
Some are. Strong Ales & Barleywines, for example.
As long as it's brewed from grain & is not distilled, it's beer. Technically, sake is beer.
Blimey, $150 beer...
It sucks how there isn't more stuff over 8%.
Quote from: Tyr on December 01, 2009, 09:26:45 PM
Blimey, $150 beer...
It sucks how there isn't more stuff over 8%.
I'd say they have about 35-40 to choose from over 8% at my favorite local store :)
I demand proof of mad science before I buy.
Extreme beer, like extreme sports, is best left alone.
27%? Pfft. Obviously you haven't heard of Tactical Nuclear Penguin:
Quote'World's strongest' beer with 32% strength launched
A controversial Scottish brewery has launched what it described as the world's strongest beer - with a 32% alcohol content.
Tactical Nuclear Penguin has been unveiled by BrewDog of Fraserburgh.
BrewDog was previously branded irresponsible for an 18.2% beer called Tokyo, which it then followed with a low alcohol beer called Nanny State.
Managing director James Watt said a limited supply of Tactical Nuclear Penguin would be sold for £30 each.
He said: "This beer is about pushing the boundaries, it is about taking innovation in beer to a whole new level."
Mr Watt added that a beer such as Tactical Nuclear Penguin should be drunk in "spirit sized measures".
A warning on the label states: "This is an extremely strong beer; it should be enjoyed in small servings and with an air of aristocratic nonchalance. In exactly the same manner that you would enjoy a fine whisky, a Frank Zappa album or a visit from a friendly yet anxious ghost."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8380412.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8380412.stm)
Interesting... Maybe I can convince my old boss to buy a bottle and he, myself, and a few of the area beer aficionados will all go in on it. I love trying out new stuff. Right now he's doing a different firkin of beer every Thursday. It's quite fun.
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2009, 04:48:10 AM
27%? Pfft. Obviously you haven't heard of Tactical Nuclear Penguin:
From the people who brought you...
QuoteBeer faces ban over label message
An 18.2% beer made by a controversial Scottish brewery should not be be sold by bars, clubs and shops across the UK, a watchdog has ruled.
The Portman Group said there had been complaints that a message on Fraserburgh-based BrewDog's Tokyo labels encouraged excessive drinking.
It is issuing a retailer alert bulletin and wants the marketing altered.
The message says people must, from time to time, have excess, and adds: "This beer is for those times."
BrewDog was previously branded irresponsible for Tokyo by Alcohol Focus Scotland.
It then followed it up with a low alcohol beer called Nanny State.
BrewDog then made headlines last week after it launched an even stronger beer at 32% called Tactical Nuclear Penguin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8392807.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8392807.stm)