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Title: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: MadImmortalMan on November 25, 2009, 07:19:18 PM
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:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


Hey, it's 4:00 in the afternoon going into a holiday weekend, and I'm about to go on vacation from now until the month of December is over. I'm kinda bored though, so what should I do??

Oh, hey I know! I'll install Snow Leopard on my laptop that I intend to use while I'm gone...


Hey that was great. It sure is pretty. Wait, why can't I get my emails anymore? Why can't I get online? Where are my apps? OMG EMERGENCY!!!!111111




FAIL




Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 07:27:23 PM
:console:

I hope you get it figured out quickly.

I guess in retrospect upgrading an OS is not something that should be done at 4pm before going on a month long holiday.  Even OS X.

And by the way I didn't find SL all that pretty - I could barely tell any difference at all...
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 07:45:20 PM
Macs :nelson
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Monoriu on November 25, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
Thank you.  I'm going to repeat this story every time my wife whines that she wants a Mac. 

Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 25, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
Thank you.  I'm going to repeat this story every time my wife whines that she wants a Mac.

Since if your wife buys a Mac it'll have Snow Leopard pre-installed that makes the anecdote a particularily bad reason to not buy a Mac.  As bad as DSB's "my girlfriend dropped her laptop and Apple hesitated to fix it" anecdote.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 08:26:07 PM
The easiest is "I like to pinch pennies and macs are not for penny pinchers."
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 25, 2009, 08:26:07 PM
The easiest is "I like to pinch pennies and macs are not for penny pinchers."

:yes:  A much better not to buy a Mac.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on November 25, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
I think I'll pass on Snow Leopard. I doubt it adds anything I'd actually use, and I can't get student discounts anymore. When I upgraded from Tiger to Leopard, many of the new features are things I don't use, or use very rarely.

Same for my reason for not using Vista or Win7 on my Windows partition.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 25, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
I think I'll pass on Snow Leopard. I doubt it adds anything I'd actually use, and I can't get student discounts anymore. When I upgraded from Tiger to Leopard, many of the new features are things I don't use, or use very rarely.

Same for my reason for not using Vista or Win7 on my Windows partition.

Meh - if you're any kind of computer geek, how can you not upgrade to the latest version for only $29?

As I mentioned, I struggle to find much new about it either and would only recommend the upgrade due to the low price.

I'm struggling whether to upgrade my Bootcamp partition (currently with XP) over to Win 7.  I would like to move to 64-bit so I can use more than 40% of my RAM, but so far XP does everything I need it to...
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Monoriu on November 26, 2009, 02:23:29 AM
Wife refused to believe this story  <_<
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Iormlund on November 26, 2009, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 08:33:29 PM

Meh - if you're any kind of computer geek, how can you not upgrade to the latest version for only $29?


:unsure:
On my work desk sit 3 industrial computers, 2 PCs and other electronic material running code I've written. I'm currently designing a network featuring a thousand participants and quite a few different protocols. I'd say I qualify as a computer geek. Yet I still run XP even though I could have a newer OS for free.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 26, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 26, 2009, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on November 25, 2009, 08:33:29 PM

Meh - if you're any kind of computer geek, how can you not upgrade to the latest version for only $29?


:unsure:
On my work desk sit 3 industrial computers, 2 PCs and other electronic material running code I've written. I'm currently designing a network featuring a thousand participants and quite a few different protocols. I'd say I qualify as a computer geek. Yet I still run XP even though I could have a newer OS for free.

As an IT professional you probably have already gotten a chance to "play with" Snow Leopard, or at least you get plenty of time at work to play with different OSes, so you hardly need to do so at home.

For those of us who are merely amateur computer geeks, it's a different story.   :blush:
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Iormlund on November 26, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
Not really. But then I don't fit the usual IT guy profile. I deal with industrial applications (machine tools, assembly lines, water treatment and energy generation mostly). Macs are unheard of in such environments. It's a Windows dominated field. All but a few of the workstations I work on run XP Pro 32bit. Some are still on NT while servers use a number of server-dedicated OSs from Microsoft. None run Vista, much less Win 7.

The main problem I see with Macs is they have the same problems as Linux (games, work apps) yet lack the advantages of GPL licensing. They are probably much easier to work with, but that's not really a concern for me. I actually like command line interfaces. :P
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Barrister on November 26, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 26, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
The main problem I see with Macs is they have the same problems as Linux (games, work apps) yet lack the advantages of GPL licensing. They are probably much easier to work with, but that's not really a concern for me. I actually like command line interfaces. :P

Then you'll be happy to know that OS X has a command line interface. :P

And I'm confused by your statement - you already have a Mac...
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Iormlund on November 26, 2009, 05:25:49 PM
Nopes, I've only used Macs at University - and even then just for admin stuff, since engineering apps are usually written for Windows.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 08:15:26 AM
Someone who goes on that long of a vacation is not truly needed.  Therefore, endeavor to get them fired.  :)
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 08:19:16 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 08:15:26 AM
Someone who goes on that long of a vacation is not truly needed.  Therefore, endeavor to get them fired.  :)

Ah, the anger of the plebs. Back to work, slave!
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 09:35:55 AM
 :huh: Upper level people never take vacations that long.  You = phony :)
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 09:35:55 AM
:huh: Upper level people never take vacations that long.  You = phony :)

I've been called worse.

Then again, I've never had a month off either. Unless you count 9 months off for a injury.

Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Grey Fox on November 27, 2009, 09:45:34 AM
You never work!
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 27, 2009, 09:45:34 AM
You never work!

Work smart, not hard.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 09:41:20 AM
Then again, I've never had a month off either.
So in other words you agree with me.  :cool:
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2009, 09:41:20 AM
Then again, I've never had a month off either.
So in other words you agree with me.  :cool:
As much as it disgusts me, yes.  :mad:
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: MadImmortalMan on November 28, 2009, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 27, 2009, 08:15:26 AM
Someone who goes on that long of a vacation is not truly needed.  Therefore, endeavor to get them fired.  :)


LOL. Married to the owner of the company.  :lol:
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: grumbler on November 29, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
Our brilliant tech geeks at school upgraded the MS Office software on the Macs in the Mac lab (bought for us by a parent who is an Mac fanatic, so I can't complain).  The result is a file system that Windows software (on every other computer in the school save those in the art department) does not even recognize these files as files!  :lmfao:

When I asked the tech goobers what they were thinking by introducing software that basically made the teachers' and students' lives hell for a week until we figured out what happened, they just shrugged.  I love tech people who consider themselves completely divorced from the mission of the organization!
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Caliga on November 29, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 28, 2009, 05:35:59 PM
LOL. Married to the owner of the company.  :lol:
A-ha.  Figures.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: garbon on November 29, 2009, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: grumbler on November 29, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
Our brilliant tech geeks at school upgraded the MS Office software on the Macs in the Mac lab (bought for us by a parent who is an Mac fanatic, so I can't complain).  The result is a file system that Windows software (on every other computer in the school save those in the art department) does not even recognize these files as files!  :lmfao:

When I asked the tech goobers what they were thinking by introducing software that basically made the teachers' and students' lives hell for a week until we figured out what happened, they just shrugged.  I love tech people who consider themselves completely divorced from the mission of the organization!

Is this because of Office 2007? I really don't get why M'Soft did that...especially because they have a free conversion patch that you can add.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 29, 2009, 09:39:04 PM
XML is the new in thing.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: garbon on November 29, 2009, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 29, 2009, 09:39:04 PM
XML is the new in thing.

Hardly answers my question. Microsoft forcing so many updates down my throat, but they couldn't give me an update so I can read .pptx? Instead I have to track down the file on their website. Lame.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 29, 2009, 10:00:02 PM
Can't disagree with you there.  It was a royal bitch.  We weren't aloud to deploy 2007 until 2008.  And even then some departments kept their computers on 2007.  The result is that students and faculty have a ton of trouble getting their stuff in order.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on December 01, 2009, 09:42:30 AM
Huh, it would've been useful if I'd known that so I could view .pptx files MS Office on the one computer with Vista at my school made. Fortunately, Vista has since been removed from that computer - not long after I'd gotten familiar enough with it to access my USB drive and use Powerpoint  and IE8; not a small feat when everything is in Korean.
Title: Re: Snow Leopard rabble rabble rabble
Post by: grumbler on December 03, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 29, 2009, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: grumbler on November 29, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
Our brilliant tech geeks at school upgraded the MS Office software on the Macs in the Mac lab (bought for us by a parent who is an Mac fanatic, so I can't complain).  The result is a file system that Windows software (on every other computer in the school save those in the art department) does not even recognize these files as files!  :lmfao:

When I asked the tech goobers what they were thinking by introducing software that basically made the teachers' and students' lives hell for a week until we figured out what happened, they just shrugged.  I love tech people who consider themselves completely divorced from the mission of the organization!

Is this because of Office 2007? I really don't get why M'Soft did that...especially because they have a free conversion patch that you can add.
No, you can just get a translator to translate Office 2007 to Office 2003 and earlier.

The is the latest version of MS Office for Mac (not 2007, 2009, or 2010 or anything like that), and is not even recognized by windows as having a file system (no suffixes, and that blank file look that says such file system can be read).  You cannot even look up the extension on the 'net because Windows does not see an extension.

It is wacky.  I can tell the students how to open their docs on the mac and then save their documents in a format they can turn in to me, but less tech-savvy teachers just tell the kids that their file is unreadable and they need to do it again.