So...I've seen 3 quad core computers now...and when games are played on all of them they make the most horrible head hurting whining sound.
Is this common or are some quiet?
As I'm not looking forward to getting a new computer if its normal....
The only intensive game I played is GTA IV, and I didn't notice any whining.
My quad is usually quiet.
My quad-core Mac is whisper quiet.
If the quad core whines, you are doing something wrong. Now, a bad fan could create that noise. But that's not really related to the processor itself.
Quote from: Zanza on November 08, 2009, 03:41:14 AM
If the quad core whines, you are doing something wrong. Now, a bad fan could create that noise. But that's not really related to the processor itself.
Correct. Sounds like a bad bearing in the CPU fan (which will speed up to maintain cooling if you undertake intensive operations like process9ing games). They are cheap and easy to replace, though. Get the largest-diameter one you can find for your chip.
hmm, how weird. These were all seperate computers where I heard the same problem...
It bodes well though. I'm really thinking of getting a computer soonish; transport is the only issue.
I do recall when one of them was being made the guy didn't use that stuff from the tube on the processor (coolant fluid is it?), maybe that could be it.
I can hear the fan turning up significantly sometimes when I play games. That's very far from quiet, but seems no where as bad as "horrible head hurting whining sound". Almost every one of the computers that I purchased in the past 10 years behave like that. But then, all of them are from the same company (Dell).
Quote from: Tyr on November 08, 2009, 02:51:05 PM
hmm, how weird. These were all seperate computers where I heard the same problem...
It bodes well though. I'm really thinking of getting a computer soonish; transport is the only issue.
I do recall when one of them was being made the guy didn't use that stuff from the tube on the processor (coolant fluid is it?), maybe that could be it.
If there isn't coolant paste, then maybe the fan is speeding higher, or deformed because of the heat? I don't really know...
Anyway, check out the Zalman fans, check the one for your particular CPU, I got one since... about 2yrs I think, and I love it. It's quiet...
If it is really the quad core that is whining I am sure that you won't have that problem for long. :p
Quote from: Zanza on November 10, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
If it is really the quad core that is whining I am sure that you won't have that problem for long. :p
As I've said I've seen the problem on a bunch of computers, one of which the owner has had for a good year at least now. He does mention he has trouble starting it up though...
Has to be a fan. Since there are no moving parts on the CPU I can't imagine it whining.
Quote from: derspiess on November 10, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
Has to be a fan. Since there are no moving parts on the CPU I can't imagine it whining.
Could be a fan-cover for the CPU and sound like it's coming from that general vicinity. :contract:
:P
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 10, 2009, 10:44:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 10, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
Has to be a fan. Since there are no moving parts on the CPU I can't imagine it whining.
Could be a fan-cover for the CPU and sound like it's coming from that general vicinity. :contract:
:P
Yeah, like I said-- a fan. :D
My quad-core-ed comp is my most silent to date.
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
Untrue. For a really heavy-duty PC, you'd have components running so hot you'd probably want to water-cool them, which runs almost completely silently.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 17, 2009, 11:15:38 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
Untrue. For a really heavy-duty PC, you'd have components running so hot you'd probably want to water-cool them, which runs almost completely silently.
But is water-cooling available in the mass market?
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 11:35:25 PM
But is water-cooling available in the mass market?
"Powerful" in the mass market has little to do with real power in gaming rigs- even high-line manufacturer-built PCs have a hard time running the latest games (think Crysis or even Sims 3 on the highest graphics settings); however, the big "media" rigs tend to have a lot more surface area, meaning the fans don't have to work quite as hard.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 17, 2009, 11:15:38 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
Untrue. For a really heavy-duty PC, you'd have components running so hot you'd probably want to water-cool them, which runs almost completely silently.
But is water-cooling available in the mass market?
Yes.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
That's nonsense. You can have a powerful and quiet computer (and you don't need to go to water cooling). Specially these days, when we're past the race to gigahertz and over-clocking.
Quote from: Barrister on November 18, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
You can have a powerful and quiet computer (and you don't need to go to water cooling). Specially these days, when we're past the race to gigahertz and over-clocking.
I admire you for restraining yourself with this post. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on November 18, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
That's nonsense. You can have a powerful and quiet computer (and you don't need to go to water cooling). Specially these days, when we're past the race to gigahertz and over-clocking.
Do you have any computers in mind?
Quote from: DGuller on November 18, 2009, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 18, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM
It seems like a compromise to me. Silent computers tend to be slow and unsuitable for playing graphics-heavy games. If I want more power, I have to live with the noise.
That's nonsense. You can have a powerful and quiet computer (and you don't need to go to water cooling). Specially these days, when we're past the race to gigahertz and over-clocking.
Do you have any computers in mind?
You know I do. :cool:
But you can buy plenty of powerful and quiet computers that aren't named after fruit as well.
There is a Marcin computer?
Quote from: katmai on November 18, 2009, 06:29:22 PM
There is a Marcin computer?
He said "named after fruit" not "named after A fruit."
Very well then.
Quote from: Barrister on November 18, 2009, 01:03:49 PM
But you can buy plenty of powerful and quiet computers that aren't named after fruit as well.
Who wants to buy a lemon, though?
My i7 is super quiet. My Double Xeon, not so much.
Scratch that, my i7 as started to whine.
Gawd that's annoying as fuck.
I don't know exactly why, but while my computer is whisper-quiet normally, whenever the DVD drive spools up it causes a hell of a racket for a few seconds.
Not usually an issue, but unfortunately Dragon Age requires the disk to be in the drive. <_<
Quote from: Barrister on December 07, 2009, 01:37:06 PM
I don't know exactly why, but while my computer is whisper-quiet normally, whenever the DVD drive spools up it causes a hell of a racket for a few seconds.
Same here. I think that that is just the nature of the beast. Ironically, my HDDs are small enough to implement the noise dampening built into my case, but the noisier DVD drive is too large to fit the rubber mounts.
Quote from: grumbler on December 08, 2009, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 07, 2009, 01:37:06 PM
I don't know exactly why, but while my computer is whisper-quiet normally, whenever the DVD drive spools up it causes a hell of a racket for a few seconds.
Same here. I think that that is just the nature of the beast. Ironically, my HDDs are small enough to implement the noise dampening built into my case, but the noisier DVD drive is too large to fit the rubber mounts.
If you think *your* DVD drive is noisy, my kid broke off the front plate of the tray on mine a few days ago & I can't find the piece. So it's louder than my Xbox now.
Which is fine by me, because it makes it look even more like I need to replace my whole system :shifty:
I just noticed a sound coming from my work PC. It's a dual core, not a quad core. I've been working on a very complicated Excel workbook, and every time I made a change that forced it to recalculate everything, CPU usage went to 100% for both cores for a couple of seconds.
As it was doing it, I was hearing a sound like a hair dryer spooling up from my PC. I guess all high-powered PCs generate a ton of heat when they're utilized to their full capacity, and that forces the CPU fan to really get its ass in gear.
Quote from: DGuller on December 23, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
I guess all high-powered PCs generate a ton of heat when they're utilized to their full capacity, and that forces the CPU fan to really get its ass in gear.
FYPFY. Multi-core processors run HOT. The Athlon X2 64 in my laptop routinely comes in around 60-65C per core.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 23, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 23, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
I guess all high-powered PCs generate a ton of heat when they're utilized to their full capacity, and that forces the CPU fan to really get its ass in gear.
FYPFY. Multi-core processors run HOT. The Athlon X2 64 in my laptop routinely comes in around 60-65C per core.
Laptops also run HOT. Multi-cores in laptops is piling Pelion upon Ossa.
Quote from: grumbler on January 01, 2010, 12:31:30 PM
Laptops also run HOT. Multi-cores in laptops is piling Pelion upon Ossa.
I was aware of this, but it's the first time I've had normal core temps come in above 50-55C.
Hell, my overclocked Celeron desktop came in at 49C. No fan, just thermal paste and heat sink.