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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/05/iran-tested-nuclear-warhead-design
QuoteIran tested advanced nuclear warhead design – secret reportExclusive: Watchdog fears Tehran has key component to put bombs in missiles
Julian Borger, diplomatic editor
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 November 2009 20.45 GMT
The UN's nuclear watchdog has asked Iran to explain evidence suggesting that Iranian scientists have experimented with an advanced nuclear warhead design, the Guardian has learned.
The very existence of the technology, known as a "two-point implosion" device, is officially secret in both the US and Britain, but according to previously unpublished documentation in a dossier compiled by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iranian scientists may have tested high-explosive components of the design. The development was today described by nuclear experts as "breathtaking" and has added urgency to the effort to find a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crisis.
The sophisticated technology, once mastered, allows for the production of smaller and simpler warheads than older models. It reduces the diameter of a warhead and makes it easier to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.
Documentation referring to experiments testing a two-point detonation design are part of the evidence of nuclear weaponisation gathered by the IAEA and presented to Iran for its response.
The dossier, titled "Possible Military Dimensions of Iran's Nuclear Program", is drawn in part from reports submitted to it by western intelligence agencies.
The agency has in the past treated such reports with scepticism, particularly after the Iraq war. But its director general, Mohamed ElBaradei, has said the evidence of Iranian weaponisation "appears to have been derived from multiple sources over different periods of time, appears to be generally consistent, and is sufficiently comprehensive and detailed that it needs to be addressed by Iran".
Extracts from the dossier have been published previously, but it was not previously known that it included documentation on such an advanced warhead. "It is breathtaking that Iran could be working on this sort of material," said a European government adviser on nuclear issues.
James Acton, a British nuclear weapons expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said: "It's remarkable that, before perfecting step one, they are going straight to step four or five ... To start with more sophisticated designs speaks of level of technical ambition that is surprising."
Another western specialist with extensive knowledge of the Iranian programme said: "It raises the question of who supplied this to them. Did AQ Khan [a Pakistani scientist who confessed in 2004 to running a nuclear smuggling ring] have access to this, or is it another player?"
The revelation of the documents comes at a time of growing tension. Tehran has so far rejected a deal that would remove most of its enriched uranium stockpile for a year and replace it with nuclear fuel rods which would be much harder to turn into weapons. The Iranian government has also balked at negotiations, which were due to begin last week, over its continued enrichment of uranium, in defiance of UN security council resolutions.
There are fears in Washington and London that if no deal is reached to at least temporarily defuse tensions by the end of December, Israel could set in motion plans to take military action aimed at setting back the Iranian programme by force, with incalculable consequences for the Middle East.
Iran has rejected most of the IAEA material on weaponisation as forgeries, but has admitted carrying out tests on multiple high-explosive detonations synchronised to within a microsecond. Tehran has told the agency that there is a civilian application for such tests, but has so far not provided any evidence for them.
Western weapons experts say there are no such civilian applications, but the use of co-ordinated detonations in nuclear warheads is well known. They compress the fissile core, or pit, of the warhead until it reaches critical mass.
A US national intelligence estimate two years ago said that Iran had explored nuclear warhead design for several years but had probably stopped in 2003. British, French and German officials have said they believe weaponisation continued after that date and may still be continuing.
In September, a German court found a German-Iranian businessman, Mohsen Vanaki, guilty of brokering the sale of dual-use equipment with possible applications in developing nuclear weapons. The equipment included specialised high-speed cameras, of the sort used to develop implosion devices, as well as radiation detectors. According to a report by the Institute for Science and International Security, the German foreign intelligence service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst, testified at the trial that there was evidence that Iran's weapons development was continuing.
The IAEA is seeking to find out what the scientists and the institutions involved in the experiments are doing now, but has so far not been given a response. The agency's repeated requests to interview Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, whose name features heavily in the IAEA's documentation and who is widely seen as the father of the Iranian nuclear programme, have been turned down.
The agency has also asked Iran to explain evidence that a Russian weapons expert helped Iranian technicians to master synchronised high-explosive detonations.
The first implosion devices, like the "Fat Man" bomb dropped on Nagasaki on 9 August 1945, used 32 high-explosive hexagons and pentagons arrayed around a plutonium core like the panels of a football. The IAEA has a five-page document describing experimentation on such a hemispherical array of explosives.
According to a diplomat familiar with the IAEA documentation, the evidence also points to experiments with a two-point detonation system that represents "a more elegant solution" to the challenges of making a nuclear warhead, but it is much harder to achieve. It is used in conjunction with a non-spherical pit, in the shape of a rugby ball, or explosives in that shape wrapped around a spherical pit, and it works by compressing the pit from both ends.The IAEA has expressed "serious concern" about Iran's failure to give an account of the research its scientists have carried out.
Descriptions of "two-point implosion" warheads designs have occasionally appeared in the public domain (there are extensive descriptions on Wikipedia) and they were first developed by US scientists in the 1950s, but it remains an offence for American officials or even non-governmental nuclear experts with security clearance to discuss them.
lol, will this new development will result in: nothing of interest?
Nobody will care or do anything until they test one on Tel Aviv.
I was going to post this too. Now, I'm sure, the UN will issue a VERY boisterous letter of complaint!! :cool:
Save us, Hans Blix. :(
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
Why? I don't think there's many people here who didn't see this coming.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
What do you expect? Everybody posting a :bleeding: smilie? :huh:
Quote from: Zanza on November 06, 2009, 11:42:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
What do you expect? Everybody posting a :bleeding: smilie? :huh:
I'd expect a couple :thumbsup:
Quote from: Ancient Demon on November 06, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
Why? I don't think there's many people here who didn't see this coming.
Just because everyone in the neighborhood expects neighbor X to flip out and kill his wife one day, doesn't mean that when it happens you don't talk about it.
Because it's just the trigger mechanism? Wake me when they have actual warheads.
Quote from: The Brain on November 07, 2009, 04:38:15 AM
Because it's just the trigger mechanism? Wake me when they have actual warheads.
Indeed. It'll be hillarious to watch Obama kissing their asses, talking about a 'reset' in relations, and denying the Holocaust.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 11:51:59 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on November 06, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
Why? I don't think there's many people here who didn't see this coming.
Just because everyone in the neighborhood expects neighbor X to flip out and kill his wife one day, doesn't mean that when it happens you don't talk about it.
It's just not very interesting Tim. They will carry on and at some stage have an operational nuclear arsenal. The "news" will be if they use it.
I tested an advanced nuclear warhead on my toilet this morning. That's interesting.
Tim DEMANDS responses to his threads. He'll beat his shoe on the podium next.
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 07, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
I tested an advanced nuclear warhead on my toilet this morning. That's interesting.
Stop stealing my toilet shtick.
How else is he supposed to shtir his toilet.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I'm rather surprised there's been such little comment on this.
Well, really, I dare you to come up with a comment that doesn't boil down to either:
1) "So What" or
2) "If we're allowed to have nukes, we really can't talk shit when others get them."
If we couldn't get anything positive done to destroy their nukular aspirations after 8 years of Dubya and Uncle Dick, nothing's going to get done.
Darth Cheney was my last hope for my Iranian war. And he pissed it all away. :cry:
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 07, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 07, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
I tested an advanced nuclear warhead on my toilet this morning. That's interesting.
Stop stealing my toilet shtick.
Bullshit.
I don't like nukes.