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Well?

I'm leaning towards Firefox again, but somehow I got the feeling something happened in Firefox 3.5. It got slower, and I also experienced my computer started deteriorating when I installed it, so I'm blaming it for that, subconsciously.

I read that Google Chrome is too spyey, and IE well... It's IE.

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Opera? Website says it's good, and I like the mouse gestures.

As an experiment, you may chose two options.

Netscape Navigator

Other: Safari. -_-

Firefox.

Opera is nice, I like it's built in mouse gestures, but this can be easily added to Firefox and Opera doesn't have the thousands of plugins that Firefox does.

Quote from: Martinus on November 03, 2009, 03:41:12 PM
Other: Safari. -_-

Would that require some hardware upgrades? ;)

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 03, 2009, 03:40:48 PM
Netscape Navigator

Weird, I used that one in high school at their computers, but then it just went away. Is it still there?

Opera is great though it costs money. Which sucks.

Firefox I'm growing increasingly to hate, its very very resource intensitve. I may switch back to ie soon.

Quote from: Lucidor on November 03, 2009, 04:15:57 PM

Quote from: Martinus on November 03, 2009, 03:41:12 PM
Other: Safari. -_-

Would that require some hardware upgrades? ;)

No it would not.  I'm posting this right now under Safari for Windows.  :cool:  It is also, by the way, the #3 web browser behind IE and Firefox.  It's miles ahead of Chrome and Opera.

Quite honestly - I do like Safari 4 for Windows (Safari 3 seemed a little, I dunno, unrefined).

Quote from: Tyr on November 03, 2009, 07:40:25 PM
Opera is great though it costs money. Which sucks.

Opera is free, and has been for the past few years.

The one and only - Internet Explorer.

Quote from: Monoriu on November 03, 2009, 08:30:59 PM
The one and only - Internet Explorer.

For somebody who works in IT, you're a tech's worst nightmare. <_<

Firefox is the most secure once you install the NoScript and FlashBlock addons; Safari's the fastest- I use Safari for browsing my usual playgrounds, and I switch to Firefox for anything involving downloads or unfamiliar sites that I know won't require a lot of script or Flash content.

I liked Opera, but around V9, they just got full of bloat while all the others got full of the features that made Opera stand out, so I wouldn't think it's all that viable as a main browser.

Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 04, 2009, 12:17:36 AM

For somebody who works in IT, you're a tech's worst nightmare. <_<

Why?  If everybody in the world uses IE, then a tech's job is much easier. 

Trying out Safari - hopefully the friends at Apple didn't hijack everything with the taint of Quicktime. It's harder to import bookmarks from Firefox than I thought it would be.

I use mainly Opera (they switched to free some time ago) and I'm experimenting with Chrome lately. Both are good, Chrome seems faster on average. I tried Firefox, it was more or less as good as Opera... or, in other words, I saw no reason to abandon Opera.

Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 04, 2009, 12:17:36 AM
For somebody who works in IT, you're a tech's worst nightmare. <_<

Our IT-department and policy specifically forbids installation of alternative browsers (people do it constantly anyway, though - and some of us do need them for our jobs). The basic idea is to have everyone use IE to focus on that security wise, plus we use tons of browser-based enterprise applications - those are not necessarily cross platform.

IE, fuck Firefox.

Opera is my main browser. I occasionally use Firefox as well.

Quote from: Monoriu on November 04, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
Why?  If everybody in the world uses IE, then a tech's job is much easier.

:yes: Our IT folks don't "permit" staff to use any browser other than IE, so they won't have to support multiple apps.  I dunno about everyone else but I have local admin rights so I could install another browser if I wanted, but IE is fine for my purposes, and in fact required for one of the web based apps I work on.

Quote from: Lucidor on November 03, 2009, 04:16:37 PM

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 03, 2009, 03:40:48 PM
Netscape Navigator

Weird, I used that one in high school at their computers, but then it just went away. Is it still there?

It died a slow and incredibly painful death.

Quote from: Caliga on November 04, 2009, 10:26:31 AM

Quote from: Monoriu on November 04, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
Why?  If everybody in the world uses IE, then a tech's job is much easier.

:yes: Our IT folks don't "permit" staff to use any browser other than IE, so they won't have to support multiple apps.  I dunno about everyone else but I have local admin rights so I could install another browser if I wanted, but IE is fine for my purposes, and in fact required for one of the web based apps I work on.

Yes, it is easier, especially if you have to have web sites for internal use and don't want them looking differently. 

I'm a soft touch though, so long as its legal and doesn't cause me problems I let them do what they want to the computers, and if they wreck their system, they'll just have to wait until its fixed.

Quote from: bogh on November 04, 2009, 04:50:19 AMOur IT-department and policy specifically forbids installation of alternative browsers (people do it constantly anyway, though - and some of us do need them for our jobs). The basic idea is to have everyone use IE to focus on that security wise, plus we use tons of browser-based enterprise applications - those are not necessarily cross platform.

Same here. Problem is, they still use IE 6. :bleeding:

I use Firefox at work, and Safari at home. To be honest, I find myself liking Firefox more and more over Safari. The latter has some neat features that aren't in Firefox, but it's slower, especially when first opening, and you can't search your history by typing in the address bar like you can with Firefox.

I used Opera on my old iBook since the latest versions of Firefox, Safari, or IE (in fact, maybe not even IE 6 for mac) were supported, forcing me to use Opera to access Hotmail. It impressed me, but not enough to ditch Firefox for.

Quote from: Zanza on November 06, 2009, 01:49:22 AM

Quote from: bogh on November 04, 2009, 04:50:19 AMOur IT-department and policy specifically forbids installation of alternative browsers (people do it constantly anyway, though - and some of us do need them for our jobs). The basic idea is to have everyone use IE to focus on that security wise, plus we use tons of browser-based enterprise applications - those are not necessarily cross platform.

Same here. Problem is, they still use IE 6. :bleeding:

God, that's the default browser on my schools computers. I hate that shit with a passion. At least they don't care if I install Firefox on my computer.

The thing with Internet Explorer is the only reason to use it is platform standardization.  So it makes me wonder why anyone besides a web developer would bother using it outside of a multi-user local network setting.  For casual users, I think it's actually dangerous- I don't even trust its security with industry-standard AV software.

Personal observation about speed: both Firefox and Safari take time to load, but Firefox actually takes so long to load that I opened it first, then opened Safari and answered that I wanted to set it to my default browser, and by the time Firefox had finished loading, it came up with the default browser question itself.  I don't know what they've done to the latest versions, but Firefox is starting to get slow.

Contrary to popular belief, people aren't consistenly trying to hack your computer.

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2009, 09:28:46 AM
Contrary to popular belief, people aren't consistenly trying to hack your computer.

That's true.

Got Firefox again. It's more intuitive than Safari (perhaps it's that I've used it two years...) and I like the mouse gestures of FireGestures.

if you like chrome, use Iron, it's the same without the spys