I'm in love with the new 2010.
The way things are organized is better than before. The Staff is much more important than before, with lots of Infos and Hints, they really take some work from me.
The Tactics are very different, I still don't know if I like them or not.
By far the best FM I ever played
Which are the technical requirements? I've read that it's faster than '09, so I'm hopeful about my old laptop's chances of running it.
Quote from: The Larch on November 02, 2009, 09:52:51 AM
Which are the technical requirements? I've read that it's faster than '09, so I'm hopeful about my old laptop's chances of running it.
I played the demo with an old computer that I used to play 2009, but right now I'm using a faster computer.
And as far as I can see, no major bugs
Quote from: The Larch on November 02, 2009, 09:52:51 AM
Which are the technical requirements? I've read that it's faster than '09, so I'm hopeful about my old laptop's chances of running it.
Where'd you read this?
As I said in the other thread that is my big putting off factor about this game.
Quote from: Tyr on November 03, 2009, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: The Larch on November 02, 2009, 09:52:51 AM
Which are the technical requirements? I've read that it's faster than '09, so I'm hopeful about my old laptop's chances of running it.
Where'd you read this?
As I said in the other thread that is my big putting off factor about this game.
Performance reviews by betatesters.
To clarify: They say that if you run '09 and '10 in the same machine with the same setup, '10 is faster.
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on November 02, 2009, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: The Larch on November 02, 2009, 09:52:51 AM
Which are the technical requirements? I've read that it's faster than '09, so I'm hopeful about my old laptop's chances of running it.
I played the demo with an old computer that I used to play 2009, but right now I'm using a faster computer.
And as far as I can see, no major bugs
How much RAM do you have on both computers?
I can't say how your laptop would do Larchie, but it seems to run faster on my desktop than '09.
Enjoying it, playing as my Seattle Sounders, enjoying the redone tactics and new touchline instructions during game which makes it less of hassle to change tactics on fly.
Quote from: katmai on November 03, 2009, 01:23:21 PM
I can't say how your laptop would do Larchie, but it seems to run faster on my desktop than '09.
Enjoying it, playing as my Seattle Sounders, enjoying the redone tactics and new touchline instructions during game which makes it less of hassle to change tactics on fly.
What about the staff advice?
Quote from: The Larch on November 03, 2009, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 03, 2009, 01:23:21 PM
I can't say how your laptop would do Larchie, but it seems to run faster on my desktop than '09.
Enjoying it, playing as my Seattle Sounders, enjoying the redone tactics and new touchline instructions during game which makes it less of hassle to change tactics on fly.
What about the staff advice?
I like it, gives the feel of much more interaction with team.
Downloaded the demo tonight. It seems faster on my PC, but that might just be the league and data base settings.
I really like the additions. 3d matches work well, sideline orders was something I longed for in 2009 and the interface seems very well laid out (takes a little getting used too, naturally). I think the assistant advice is good and cuts down on the micro-management in a good way.
I'll probably pick it up next week or so. Too much of a time waster before after my talent program assessment...
Has anybody tried it with multiple leagues? Journeyman style game with 10 - 15 leagues. I want to know if there have been performance issues and your specs if you have tried with so many leagues.
Quote from: Viking on November 03, 2009, 10:14:07 PM
Has anybody tried it with multiple leagues? Journeyman style game with 10 - 15 leagues. I want to know if there have been performance issues and your specs if you have tried with so many leagues.
I always run it with the following
USA-MLS
Mexico-2 divisions
UK-all divisions
Spain-2 divisions
Italy-3 divisions
Germany-2 divisions
Seems to be fine
Quote from: katmai on November 04, 2009, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: Viking on November 03, 2009, 10:14:07 PM
Has anybody tried it with multiple leagues? Journeyman style game with 10 - 15 leagues. I want to know if there have been performance issues and your specs if you have tried with so many leagues.
I always run it with the following
USA-MLS
Mexico-2 divisions
UK-all divisions
Spain-2 divisions
Italy-3 divisions
Germany-2 divisions
Seems to be fine
CPU and RAM?
2.2 ghz dual core amd (three years old)
2gb ram
Dual cores are so old?...blimey. I'm behind the times.
With 2008 (or was it 2007...) I always ran with the Spanish, Scottish, Italian and English leagues on my crappy little 2ghz, 1gb laptop.
Quote from: katmai on November 04, 2009, 01:44:05 PM
2.2 ghz dual core amd (three years old)
2gb ram
I got 2.7 ghz and 2gb, so that means I'm buying it. THNX
I downloaded the demo and fiddled a bit with a low league team then thought 'no...this is dull'.
I'm deeply uncertain whether to start playing with Sunderland or not. This game is just a big time sink but...I dunno.
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 10:10:36 AM
I downloaded the demo and fiddled a bit with a low league team then thought 'no...this is dull'.
I'm deeply uncertain whether to start playing with Sunderland or not. This game is just a big time sink but...I dunno.
Better to play it now than later next year when Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 comes out to steal time. :p
Quote from: Liep on November 05, 2009, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 10:10:36 AM
I downloaded the demo and fiddled a bit with a low league team then thought 'no...this is dull'.
I'm deeply uncertain whether to start playing with Sunderland or not. This game is just a big time sink but...I dunno.
Better to play it now than later next year when Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 comes out to steal time. :p
Diablo I detest.
Starcraft...not so much of a time sink; it has a definitive end :p
I went with it and its got me <_<
Currently trying to search out a good training regime.
And is it just me or are feeder clubs gone?
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
I went with it and its got me <_<
Currently trying to search out a good training regime.
And is it just me or are feeder clubs gone?
just you
OK, 9 games into my season with Rosenborg I'm 6-3-0 (thats six wins three draws and no losses for our american friends) with 21 - 6 goal difference. I started with a good team so doing well is not unexpected. I like the tactics system since it feels more natural "I want anthony annan to play as a deep playmaker supporting the attack" rather than setting his mentality to 5, passing to direct and defining him as playmaker.
Quote from: Viking on November 05, 2009, 06:25:10 PM
OK, 9 games into my season with Rosenborg I'm 6-3-0 (thats six wins three draws and no losses for our american friends) with 21 - 6 goal difference. I started with a good team so doing well is not unexpected. I like the tactics system since it feels more natural "I want anthony annan to play as a deep playmaker supporting the attack" rather than setting his mentality to 5, passing to direct and defining him as playmaker.
:yes:
Yeah my Seattle team is like 6-5-2, just because it seems much easier to set your team tactically.
Quote from: katmai on November 05, 2009, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 05, 2009, 06:25:10 PM
OK, 9 games into my season with Rosenborg I'm 6-3-0 (thats six wins three draws and no losses for our american friends) with 21 - 6 goal difference. I started with a good team so doing well is not unexpected. I like the tactics system since it feels more natural "I want anthony annan to play as a deep playmaker supporting the attack" rather than setting his mentality to 5, passing to direct and defining him as playmaker.
:yes:
Yeah my Seattle team is like 6-5-2, just because it seems much easier to set your team tactically.
Well, you can always use the old system and import your old tactics. But I'm going more and more Llaama the longer I play. I don't think this is easier, I think this wizard limits me.
Quote from: katmai on November 05, 2009, 02:37:19 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
I went with it and its got me <_<
Currently trying to search out a good training regime.
And is it just me or are feeder clubs gone?
just you
Where are they hiding?
Hooked... again. :(
I'm starting to get annoyed with these no name schmucks who are regularly knocking in goals from 40 meters out.
I'm also starting to get annoyed with my 15+ composure strikers who score less than half the time in one to ones with the goalkeeper.
One on ones are horrid.
My main way of scoring seems to be when I have both my attackers up against very few defenders. One shoots and it is saved in such a way that the other gets hold of it.
My main way of scoring is having my target man force the goalkeeper to react then passes to my AMC who is open and because one DC marks the poacher and the other DC is closing down the Target Man.
That and my DC from corners.
damn fucking computer crashes!! and the fm forums agree with me... I'm saving every 14 days.
Haven't had a single crash.
Quote from: Viking on November 20, 2009, 05:28:37 AM
damn fucking computer crashes!! and the fm forums agree with me... I'm saving every 14 days.
Seems to be tied with the memory being used. Don't load fuckton of leagues and restart if you play several hours.
Mine has been stable.
Which is odd as my computer normally makes everything crash
Quote from: Sahib on November 20, 2009, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 20, 2009, 05:28:37 AM
damn fucking computer crashes!! and the fm forums agree with me... I'm saving every 14 days.
Seems to be tied with the memory being used. Don't load fuckton of leagues and restart if you play several hours.
my pagefile.sys is fucking 4 gig. I need more fucking ram.
I've never played FM before, though always wanted to. :) So I decided to download the demo and started up as Liverpool, proceeding to beat the L'pool reseves 3-1, with Torres getting two goals.
Anyways, I'd probably download the full version at some point. I just have two questions.
1. The game seems straightforward enough, with lots of help tools. But I'm wondering is there adequate documentation with the game for the newbie?
2. Is there sound? My demo seems rather quiet.
3. What online options are there for playing?
Quote from: Josephus on November 21, 2009, 02:39:59 PM
2. Is there sound? My demo seems rather quiet.
There's no crowd watching reserve vs. 1st team practice matches. People turn up to proper games. But still, the sound is more an annoyance to me than anything
Quote
3. What online options are there for playing?
Lots. But I steer clear
There's no sound in demo (at least the vanilla version). There is in the full game, but it doesn't really amount to much (some noise during games)
Is this game supposed to be this addicitive? :cry:
Quote from: Josephus on November 22, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
Is this game supposed to be this addicitive? :cry:
Digital Crack duude.
I recently got my hands into a flash based Spectrum emulator and spent some time yesterday playing the '82 version of Football Manager. Man, even back then it was addictive.
Quote from: The Larch on November 23, 2009, 07:03:17 AM
I recently got my hands into a flash based Spectrum emulator and spent some time yesterday playing the '82 version of Football Manager. Man, even back then it was addictive.
This the one where everyone just has one numeric stat so you can put them in any old position?
Quote from: Tyr on November 23, 2009, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: The Larch on November 23, 2009, 07:03:17 AM
I recently got my hands into a flash based Spectrum emulator and spent some time yesterday playing the '82 version of Football Manager. Man, even back then it was addictive.
This the one where everyone just has one numeric stat so you can put them in any old position?
It's slightly more sophisticated. Players have two stats, ability (from 1 to 5) and energy (from 1 to 20), and three positions, defence, midfield and attack. No goalies, though. The higher the ability, the better, and low energy may lead to injury. And basically that's it.
Got it, installed it, and having lots of fun with it.
Pros: The new tactics system is really good, the staff advice is useful, the new interface I like.
Cons: Sideline shouts don't seem to be so effective, there seems to be a problem/bug with long range shots (but with the correct tactics you can at least reduce them), the training system must be completely rethinked/revamped.
addictiveness is sky high, as usual.
Plans for the future: winning the Champions League; filing a scout report for all the 23000+ players in my database, with the exception of those aged 32+
L.
What club did you take charge of P. ?
As always, I start a new game playing my beloved Juventus FC, in Serie A; usually I resign after a few years and start a wandering carreer, but this hasn't happened to me since the time of CM99/00 (around), 'ccause I haven't got so much time to play as I'd like :(
One of the most fun games I've ever hasd was, CM97/98, after the usual 3-4 years at Juve, I signed for Tottenham and managed the team for 6 or 7 years; with this year's iteration I was baffled to discover that the hot young prospect of Tottenham '98, Steffen Iversen, is still in the game and plays in some scandinavian leauge, IIRC in Norway :lol:
L.
My defence sucks. They're always too far forward so they get the ball over them for the opposition strikers to run onto a go off alone.
There's no defensive line option on the new tactics system either <_<
I think there is a defensive line option. But I could be wrong. I'm just an addicted newb learning my way around. But if you fart around the "advanced" team tactics, I'm pretty sure I saw a defensive line option.
Indeed there is a def line option under advanced options.
Josi you twit :P
Quote from: Pedrito on November 26, 2009, 07:16:44 AM
As always, I start a new game playing my beloved Juventus FC, in Serie A; usually I resign after a few years and start a wandering carreer, but this hasn't happened to me since the time of CM99/00 (around), 'ccause I haven't got so much time to play as I'd like :(
One of the most fun games I've ever hasd was, CM97/98, after the usual 3-4 years at Juve, I signed for Tottenham and managed the team for 6 or 7 years; with this year's iteration I was baffled to discover that the hot young prospect of Tottenham '98, Steffen Iversen, is still in the game and plays in some scandinavian leauge, IIRC in Norway :lol:
L.
Little Ivers plays at my beloved (and League Champions) Rosenborg where he is well on his way to becoming a club legend just like his father before him. He plays regularly for the Norwegian National Team with John Carew up on top. His usual injury prone-ness stayed behind at Wolverhampton and Tottenham before that.
I started in the Polish Second Division (Third Tier), unlockable by the editor. Boy do this guys sucks. I'm managing supposed promotion favorites and by some miracle we're near top but still can't score anything. No mater the final results, I'm going to leave this underachieving failures by the end of the season and never, ever manage in this league again.
An extremely interesting thread featuring some excellent new insight on training here, from the Sigames forums:
http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=62706 (http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=62706)
The interesting part starts around page 3.
L.
fuck this shit.. my Chelsea team is "overawed by playing against more presitigious teams" AND "complacent when playing teams with lower reputation"
I just won a game 8-2.
Which was odd.
Quote from: Tyr on November 29, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
I just won a game 8-2.
Which was odd.
Tottenham just won a game 9-1 :contract: reality is stranger than fiction.
Was doing well with Lpool. But now I haven't won in four, after a great start. Not doing much different. Except Torres keeps getting injured. :mad: And L'pool really has no depth.
Hate.
Scorching hot, flaming, raging hate.
HATE.
L.
Would you like to share with the class p?
Ok, a not so quick recap of the situation:
My team, Juventus, had bit of a shaky start in the league, two causes for this: a very difficult series of fixtures (Inter and Roma away, Fiorentina (highly overpowered IMO) at home); and the new tactics system and the sideline shouts need some time to adjust to them, and the friendly fixtures arranged by the pc are good only to gain physical fitness, because they're usually against too weak opponents to pose a real threat for your tactics.
After about 10 games I was lagging 7-8 points behind the leading teams, while having mixed results in my Champions League group (I qualified as second, behind Man Utd), so I decided to stop experimenting with tactics and stick to my usual, and bomb-proof: 4-4-2 diamond, switching to 4-4-2 straight when I need two strong midifielders on the pitch.
Although I've experimented one of the worst streaks of injuries ever happened in a FM game (up to 6 first team players out at the same time), the team started grinding good results, and slowly climbed the chart: yesterday, after 25 league matches, the team was second, one point behind Inter; in the CL we got a good 2-0 win at home against Bayern Munich in the quarter finals, the next fixtures are: at home versus Bologna, a serious contender for relegation (17th in the league); Roma away (!); and the return leg of CL quarter finals against Bayern. Ah, the injuried players are back, and in good form.
I throw against Bologna a very good team, not the best possible because I want to keep 3 or 4 of my star players to get too tired /injured for the two upcoming big matches, but a very solid team nonetheless. Usual tactics, usual pre-team speech, I am confident.
Results?
Bologna wins 0-1, goal scored at 87' from a corner kick, THE ONLY ONE CORNER KICK FOR BOLOGNA, after we completely dominated the match. WTF.
Our stats: 22 shots, 4 clear cuts, 18 corners, 59% ball possession. DOUBLE WTF.
and a huge hit on morale, that will surely affect my players for the upcoming matches. I think this match will cost me the league.
HATE.
HATEHATEHATE.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on December 02, 2009, 04:04:21 AM
Ok, a not so quick recap of the situation:
My team, Juventus, had bit of a shaky start in the league, two causes for this: a very difficult series of fixtures (Inter and Roma away, Fiorentina (highly overpowered IMO) at home); and the new tactics system and the sideline shouts need some time to adjust to them, and the friendly fixtures arranged by the pc are good only to gain physical fitness, because they're usually against too weak opponents to pose a real threat for your tactics.
After about 10 games I was lagging 7-8 points behind the leading teams, while having mixed results in my Champions League group (I qualified as second, behind Man Utd), so I decided to stop experimenting with tactics and stick to my usual, and bomb-proof: 4-4-2 diamond, switching to 4-4-2 straight when I need two strong midifielders on the pitch.
Although I've experimented one of the worst streaks of injuries ever happened in a FM game (up to 6 first team players out at the same time), the team started grinding good results, and slowly climbed the chart: yesterday, after 25 league matches, the team was second, one point behind Inter; in the CL we got a good 2-0 win at home against Bayern Munich in the quarter finals, the next fixtures are: at home versus Bologna, a serious contender for relegation (17th in the league); Roma away (!); and the return leg of CL quarter finals against Bayern. Ah, the injuried players are back, and in good form.
I throw against Bologna a very good team, not the best possible because I want to keep 3 or 4 of my star players to get too tired /injured for the two upcoming big matches, but a very solid team nonetheless. Usual tactics, usual pre-team speech, I am confident.
Results?
Bologna wins 0-1, goal scored at 87' from a corner kick, THE ONLY ONE CORNER KICK FOR BOLOGNA, after we completely dominated the match. WTF.
Our stats: 22 shots, 4 clear cuts, 18 corners, 59% ball possession. DOUBLE WTF.
and a huge hit on morale, that will surely affect my players for the upcoming matches. I think this match will cost me the league.
HATE.
HATEHATEHATE.
L.
I know the feeling. Play a few games against your reserves and youth team, win 5-0 and boost morale.
Quote from: Pedrito on December 02, 2009, 04:04:21 AM
Fiorentina (highly overpowered IMO) at home)
Is Montolivo dubbing as Baggio reincarnated or what? :P
I think a new patch is up, btw.
I've noticed something odd, when it comes to defending (corners and the like) my right/left midfielders always seem to switch sides...the left one goes into the right wing back position and vice versa, really weird.
Oh, and does anyone know the shortcut for 'save as'?
My favourite personal gripe right now is all the defenders who clear the ball across the back line giving away a corner, not to mention goalkeepers going after opposing balls and then managing to catch them just before they take the ball across the back line giving away a corner rather than the expected goalkick and finally the backpasses from attacking midfielders and strikers backpassing to their own goalkeepers. With this engine you need goalkeepers with good ball control.
I broke down and bought it. :cry:
Quote from: bogh on December 07, 2009, 02:15:32 PM
I broke down and bought it. :cry:
FCK is doing very badly in my game. :menace:
Done the demo. Bought the game, downloaded from GG. Patched it with the PC disc patch. Had to uninstall, and re-install.
Quote from: Liep on December 07, 2009, 06:32:12 PM
FCK is doing very badly in my game. :menace:
Like Brøndby in real life? :menace:
New patch is out with a huge changelog!
All the info you need at: http://www.footballmanager.com/index.php?p=article&newsid=3768 (http://www.footballmanager.com/index.php?p=article&newsid=3768)
Finished my first season. :)
As Liverpool I, typically, had a crappy domestic season. I finished seventh in the league and was eliminated from knockout tournaments fairly early on. BUT--I did win the Champions League 1-0 over Barca :)
Note, since installing the new patch, it's gotten harder to score. I doubt Torres will get 35 goals next season.
I'm gonna try my luck with Toronto FC next.
I'm home for xmas so have my desktop, I've installed it there too and....wow :wub:
Playing with the 3D views is amazing.
Sunderland are...hard.
I finished 5th in the league and won the FA cup (yey) but signings wise...we're too middling.
Bargains are too crap to play for us whilst if I go for expensive players then its one per season. hmm....
In the most bonehead move I have yet seen in FM2010 my left back Roman Varyvoda (regen) from around 10 meters short of the half way line on the left wing did a back pass to the keeper. It hit the fucking horizontal woodwork. That would have been the most amazing own goal ever in the history of Football Manager had it just been two inches lower.
Heh, I've seen players do dumb back passes many times, never nearly scoring though.
I remember one when most of my players were up, the opposition was totally on the defense and panicing to get its men back before I scored. My left winger and left back do some good passing amongst themselves and the winger is on the edge of the box ready for a cross to my players waiting in the middle...instead though the game burps and he whacks it back to the keeper :s
Quote from: Tyr on January 03, 2010, 08:18:24 AM
Heh, I've seen players do dumb back passes many times, never nearly scoring though.
I remember one when most of my players were up, the opposition was totally on the defense and panicing to get its men back before I scored. My left winger and left back do some good passing amongst themselves and the winger is on the edge of the box ready for a cross to my players waiting in the middle...instead though the game burps and he whacks it back to the keeper :s
There are three rules I learned playing defense
1) Passes back to keepers should not be in the direction of the goal, the goalie might miss it.
2) Never pass across the face of the goal.
3) Don't clear to a corner unless you have no other option.
Defenders in FM2010 do this all the time, they didn't do it 2009 and earlier.
I just won a game 8-1 (we fell asleep in the last minute :()
The headline.... Sunderland simply gr-eight.
:bleeding:
I still can't beat Chelsea though.
Marco Veratti is where its at.
His stats don't look so good but he's amazing, I even made a mistake pre match and had him as a ball winning midfielder and he ruled!
Quote from: Tyr on January 03, 2010, 09:05:16 AM
I just won a game 8-1 (we fell asleep in the last minute :()
The headline.... Sunderland simply gr-eight.
:bleeding:
I still can't beat Chelsea though.
Marco Veratti is where its at.
His stats don't look so good but he's amazing, I even made a mistake pre match and had him as a ball winning midfielder and he ruled!
I beat sunderland 4-0 last time , biggest win was 6-1 against burnley. It's good to have Roman Abramovich's money.
Opposition keepers are way too good at one on ones I find.
Most of the chances I get are of the sort which in reality would give you a goal 3/4 of the time but on here its barely 1/8.
My strikers always manage to get free of all defenders in the 6 yardish zone and then blast it right at the keeper.
Quote from: Tyr on January 06, 2010, 10:29:26 AM
Opposition keepers are way too good at one on ones I find.
Most of the chances I get are of the sort which in reality would give you a goal 3/4 of the time but on here its barely 1/8.
My strikers always manage to get free of all defenders in the 6 yardish zone and then blast it right at the keeper.
give them the lob (good finishing) or go round instructions (good dribbling)
Where are these instructions at?
Or do you mean the training things in interaction?
EDIT- heh, googling for FM2010 one on ones brings this page in the top results.
Quote from: Tyr on January 07, 2010, 10:04:13 AM
Where are these instructions at?
Or do you mean the training things in interaction?
EDIT- heh, googling for FM2010 one on ones brings this page in the top results.
Player interactions, yes.
I think the one aspect of this game I haven't mastered to my satisfaction is Practice. I just have everything set to the default "general". I don't know how to manipulate it, or if I should.
I'm playing as Inter now, and with 5 games into the season my three top strikers are injured, as are about three other players. Is there somethign I can do to limit my injuries by focussing on fitness? How?
Quote from: Josephus on January 14, 2010, 09:47:02 AM
I think the one aspect of this game I haven't mastered to my satisfaction is Practice. I just have everything set to the default "general". I don't know how to manipulate it, or if I should.
I'm playing as Inter now, and with 5 games into the season my three top strikers are injured, as are about three other players. Is there somethign I can do to limit my injuries by focussing on fitness? How?
1: Don't put your total training intensity at high.
2: Keep your fitness training in the season, have high training during the pre and post season.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F6426%2Fblackburnrover.png&hash=b142b2285c3da1d9d099299b2a72676829eff5cf)
That is probably a game with a squad which allows the team to pick unregistered players.
Quote from: Viking on January 21, 2010, 11:28:25 AM
That is probably a game with a squad which allows the team to pick unregistered players.
Normal premier league game against Blackburn.
Odd stuff. Funny though how they default to -1. Imagine that on a real pitch
Never ever sell a goalkeeper to a team you might play. I have former players tending goal at Blackburn, Aston Villa and Middlesborough, I haven't scored against any of those three teams for 3 years now.